News 2019 St Kilda Media Thread

[Mowman]

Maybe the poster on here had some good mail.

Said the club had pretty much told him he's done but he said he wanted to wait and get more scans. Problem is he can't have the scans until the symptoms go?

Its very sad For the Kid
But wouldn't be surprised if the club or AFL don't allow him to play anymore for insurance cover reasons

 

[SufferingS8INT]

Can anyone please cut and paste the articles that are pay walled on fox sports app??

Thanks in advance

 

[SufferingS8INT]

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/...9/news-story/9f17e8deea4b71a3ec5cb37939c1b5b1

David King is the last guy I want to hear when it comes to the state of clubs. The guy is as clueless as they come.
Weird that the journalist wrote an article interviewing David King about St Kilda.

Are you able to cut and paste this article please?? Thanks

 

[VDS66]

Commercially he raises the profile of our board and club. He isn’t Shane Warne the supporter of hopeless at Kilda.

He is Shane Warne St Kilda board member cricket legend who is providing a 2:1 for any potential sponsors.

I think a guard of honour comprising strippers is a great idea next to the banner...

 

[SaintsSeptember]

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/...9/news-story/9f17e8deea4b71a3ec5cb37939c1b5b1

David King is the last guy I want to hear when it comes to the state of clubs. The guy is as clueless as they come.
Weird that the journalist wrote an article interviewing David King about St Kilda.

Is that like one of those crappy infomercial shows where they take it in turns interviewing each other.

" Hi Catriona you look like a medical expert... what can you tell me about gummy vitamins. " " Well whatzisname, we all know grown adults can't eat vitamins because they might taste Yukky... so we just added a shitload of sugar... even though they are probably obese. "

 

[Premium]

I think a guard of honour comprising strippers is a great idea next to the banner...

Don't members vote for who they want on the board.

 

[Not Raph Clarke]

Not sure if this has been posted, great read on our selfless captain;

https://outline.com/vtpmfa

 

[bergholt]

Not sure if this has been posted, great read on our selfless captain;

https://outline.com/vtpmfa

Good one! But how did you do that? Last time I tried to use outline with the herald sun it didn't work.

 

[Not Raph Clarke]

Good one! But how did you do that? Last time I tried to use outline with the herald sun it didn't work.

No idea. Tried doing it with the David King article above and it said ‘no bueno’. Trial and error I suppose.

 

[triggering bro]

Good one! But how did you do that? Last time I tried to use outline with the herald sun it didn't work.

I’m having the same issue. I’ve been troubleshooting by deleting parts of the url but yet to get it working.

 

[stavro#4]

I think a guard of honour comprising strippers is a great idea next to the banner...

That’s a lot of $5 notes we will have to get from their underwear. Are you man enough for the job?

 

[jwikked]

Are you able to cut and paste this article please?? Thanks

Afraid not. Outline doesn’t seem to work and I’m getting paywalled now. Sorry. I should’ve done it from the start but wasn’t sure if it was allowed.

 

[saintsrfreak]

Are you able to cut and paste this article please?? Thanks

There's an add-on for firefox called Anti-Paywall that I installed to be able to read HS articles without putting money in Murdoch's pocket

St Kilda surges to second on AFL ladder on back of slower, more calculated game style in 2019
Michael Randall, Herald Sun
April 26, 2019 2:45pm

Cool, calm and calculating.

That’s been the key to St Kilda’s stunning turnaround in 2019.
The Saints have abandoned their helter-skelter basketball-style game plan of last season in favour of a more measured approach — and it’s reaping huge rewards.

It’s helped lift St Kilda to four wins in the opening five rounds and second place on the ladder.
While many were predicting doom and gloom at Moorabbin, dual premiership great David King says coach Alan Richardson has reinvented his side by abandoning the corridor, slowing the game down and being more calculated with the footy, allowing his players to increase their defensive pressure across the board.
“Everything’s more calculated, there’s more method to the madness,” King told the Herald Sun.

Alan Richardson (right) has his team playing in a more controlled manner. Pic: Getty Images

“Last year’s model was broken, let’s be honest, it was in motion all the time, back and forth.
“Not many teams can do that. Bottom line, they ended up with an attack that scored 73 points (14th), going flat out through the corridor with the most play-ons from marks in the competition. It was like going around corners at 150km/h an hour. Something had to give.

“This year, they’re only scoring a goal more per game (79 points) than last year — which is not a massive improvement — but, in terms of defence, they’ve improved by five goals.”
That “broken” model is a thing of the past, with the slower Saints — who conceded 84 points per 100 turnovers, second worst in the AFL last season — no longer busted open when they lose the footy, allowing just 55 points per 100 turnovers, third best.

“I look at it like the old strike rate for cricket. If you go at 100 runs per 100 balls you’re at 100 strike rate,” he said.
“If you look at St Kilda last year, if they lost a stoppage, they would cough up 98 points per 100 lost stoppages, which was second-worst in the competition — only Carlton were poorer. This year, it’s at 71 points, which is the second-best.

Rowan Marshall and Seb Ross demonstrate the new-look Saints. Pic: Michael Klein

“This is why they made the change. It all feeds from what they do when they have the footy.
“They can actually defend their turnovers. As soon as you move the ball in a more measured way, while it might not look as great and be the absolute highlight reel, the guys behind the footy are able to set up, communicate and things can fall into place.”
Champion Data has measured that the Saints have upped their pressure factor by five to an average of 180 per game — a jump from 17th to eighth.
Star midfielder Seb Ross’s rampant tackling and effort has produced a +7.2 pressure point increase on last year (37.9 to 45.1).
The new style has helped the Saints eke out wins by one, five and 11 points in 2019 and the sole loss, to Fremantle, was by just five points and King said Richardson deserved credit.
“They’re the second-best defence in the competition, where last year they were 16th,” King said.
“They’ve improved massively and it’s on the back of tactics and then the buy-in to those tactics.



“It always comes back to the coach, but clearly there’s been a big shift and it’s basically won them games of footy.
“When you look at how tight their games have been, to not being able to be scored against is huge.”
Captain Jarryn Geary has been a key figure in the club’s rejuvenation, acting as the general of the team’s set up, but, with his injury and both Jake Carlisle and Dylan Roberton missing, King said the challenge was for another Saint to stand up against the Crows on Saturday.
“It’ll be an interesting watch without Geary this weekend — without him, without (Jake) Carlisle, without (Dylan) Roberton, can the slack be taken up by someone else?” King said.
“This is the reality of the numbers so far, but now they lose the bloke who puts the pieces in place.”

Tim Membrey has also turned up the pressure. Pic: Getty Images

MISERLY SAINTS — St Kilda’s game averages
2018 // 2019
Points for: 73 (14th) // 79.2 (11th)
Points against: 96.6 (16th) // 68.8 (2nd)
Points conceded per 100 lost stoppages: 98 (17th) // 71 (2nd)
Points conceded per 100 turnovers: 84 (17th) // 55 (3rd)

 

[austinnn]

Not sure if this has been posted, great read on our selfless captain;

https://outline.com/vtpmfa

Not sure if this has been posted, great read on our selfless captain;

https://outline.com/vtpmfa

Great article!

Really feel like we've taken Geary for granted over the years and it's ironic that we're only now realising his value when he's close to retirement.

Also, really interesting quote from Richo about the team under Riewoldt's captaincy:

........
“It was a little bit hard to see those underneath Rooey, because of the influence that he had, and had had for such a long time, in a period where the club had won a lot of games of footy,” Richardson explained.

“Riewoldt became a leader of the competition, not just the club. Understandably, guys fell into line a little bit. And that’s OK."
.......

So in other words, Roo was a very domineering leader, either consciously or unconsciously. You sense that this might have been a disadvantage in the later years when we were not going so well and the club needed the next generation of leaders to stand up and claim their club. Might also explain the leadership vacuum after he left.

Now I'm not going to sit here and slag off Nick Riewoldt or say he had a negative influence on the club, but I did reflect on the idea that the strong advantage we had wasn't without downsides.

It's the second time I've thought about this idea today: I pondered the negative effect of interstate teams having such a strong hometown advantage.

Hardly groundbreaking ideas, but more holistically it reminds me that any advantage you have in any context can soften you up and leave you vulnerable upon its removal. So should the aim of the game be to do it tough and learn to prosper with the minimum of advantages?

I found Richo's observation to be significant anyway.

 

[austinnn]

There's an add-on for firefox called Anti-Paywall that I installed to be able to read HS articles without putting money in Murdoch's pocket

Another interesting point. Who takes control of the backline organisation in Geary's absence? Savage? Ross? Newnes? Wilkie?

I guess we'll see tomorrow!


EDIT: This was in response to the article embedded in the above saintsrfreak post, entitled St Kilda surges to second on AFL ladder on back of slower, more calculated game style in 2019

 

[Fehring]

Another interesting point. Who takes control of the backline organisation in Geary's absence? Savage? Ross? Newnes? Wilkie?

I guess we'll see tomorrow!

Brown.

 

[Sab22]

Another interesting point. Who takes control of the backline organisation in Geary's absence? Savage? Ross? Newnes? Wilkie?

I guess we'll see tomorrow!


EDIT: This was in response to the article embedded in the above saintsrfreak post, entitled St Kilda surges to second on AFL ladder on back of slower, more calculated game style in 2019

All of them. I don't see why 1 player needs to lead, all of them should step up.

 

[Diehard Saint]

I’m a bit uncomfortable with all this unfamiliar positive media....

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl...t-kilda-turned-it-around-20190426-p51hfa.html

 

[Fehring]

I’m a bit uncomfortable with all this unfamiliar positive media....

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl...t-kilda-turned-it-around-20190426-p51hfa.html

This is all quite simply terrifying. Could they please stop?

 

[Sab22]

endgame for AFL Is here

 

[Jughead77]

 

[triggering bro]

endgame for AFL Is here View attachment 662859

Should’ve had Lonie as Ant Man.

 

[VDS66]

I’m a bit uncomfortable with all this unfamiliar positive media....

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl...t-kilda-turned-it-around-20190426-p51hfa.html

All good. Great article shedding light on what's happening internally.

Love the interviews, not so much the opinion pieces.

 

[VDS66]

Great article!

Really feel like we've taken Geary for granted over the years and it's ironic that we're only now realising his value when he's close to retirement.

Also, really interesting quote from Richo about the team under Riewoldt's captaincy:

........
“It was a little bit hard to see those underneath Rooey, because of the influence that he had, and had had for such a long time, in a period where the club had won a lot of games of footy,” Richardson explained.

“Riewoldt became a leader of the competition, not just the club. Understandably, guys fell into line a little bit. And that’s OK."
.......

So in other words, Roo was a very domineering leader, either consciously or unconsciously. You sense that this might have been a disadvantage in the later years when we were not going so well and the club needed the next generation of leaders to stand up and claim their club. Might also explain the leadership vacuum after he left.

Now I'm not going to sit here and slag off Nick Riewoldt or say he had a negative influence on the club, but I did reflect on the idea that the strong advantage we had wasn't without downsides.

It's the second time I've thought about this idea today: I pondered the negative effect of interstate teams having such a strong hometown advantage.

Hardly groundbreaking ideas, but more holistically it reminds me that any advantage you have in any context can soften you up and leave you vulnerable upon its removal. So should the aim of the game be to do it tough and learn to prosper with the minimum of advantages?

I found Richo's observation to be significant anyway.

I don't think your view is as contentious as you think.

One thing to be a great captain by example, another thing to be able to impart that wisdom in to others.

Yes Roo was a legend of the game, however the void he left was obvious for all to see.

The problem arises when people hang on his every word as gospel, simply because of his reputation.

 

[Persevering Saint]

Me too. Way too much on us lately. Not sure if it's genuine or the media just wanting us to get big heads and crumble. They've never been this positive about our club.

Both my AFL and MLB teams are historical strugglers who have started extremely well.

I don't know how to handle this feeling... I think they call it joy.