Play Nice 45th President of the United States: Donald Trump - Part 8 - Totally exonerated bigly. (Cont in part 9)

[GuruJane]

No. I don't mean that. Read the post. Read Mueller. Read the news. Read books. Read interviews with experts and people involved. Read SOMETHING, you utter clod.

But that's what Mueller says Chief. Page 25. I quoted it exactly.

100 K. On facebook.

Greatest joke of this sorry saga.

Where does he say its more than that?

 

[Chief]

But that's what Mueller says Chief. Page 25. I quoted it exactly.

100 K. On facebook.

Greatest joke of this sorry saga.

Where does he say its more than that?

Your point is that the $100k is all that was spent and all that counts. You're ignoring groups and the fact that once people are in a Facebook Group you don't need to re-spend to reach them, depending on how much they interact with the group's postings you get future post views from that person for free. Shares and recommendations and re-Tweets are free.

It's not possible to discuss this with you when you are obtuse about the myriad other reported activities and the possible effects of all of them, and the implications for the Trump campaign and Presidency.

It's a waste of time to try.

I'm ruling my own line under interacting with you for the time being.

 

[GuruJane]

But the advertising lured people to join bogus groups
Collectively, the IRA's social media accounts reached tens of millions of U.S. persons.
IndividualIRAsocialmediaaccountsattractedhundredsofthousandsoffollowers. Forexample,
at the time they were deactivated by Facebook in mid-2017, the IRA's "United Muslims of
America" Facebook group had over 300,000 followers, the "Don't Shoot Us" Facebook group had
over 250,000 followers, the "Being Patriotic" Facebook group had over 200,000 followers, and
61
According to Facebook, in total the IRA-controlled accounts made over 80,000 posts before their deactivation in August 2017, and these posts reached at least 29 million U.S persons and "may have reached an estimated 126
million people."62

P26 of the report

Sadly Satan, if Russian activity under Putin's order had been regarded as serious at the time then Obama would have done something about it. Wouldn't he? And did he? Quite the opposite.
https://news.yahoo.com/obama-cyber-...ssian-cyberattacks-summer-2016-204935758.html
So much for that.

Speaking as one who was supporting Hillary in that campaign I can attest that the Russian penetration news faded away after Obama's stand down. The emails hacked from Podesta's account were voluminous but innocuous.
It was James Comey's two interventions that were much more injurious to her campaign
Even then, I thought she would survive and beat Trump handily.

It would be interesting for someone to here to go back to the campaign and see what this forum was discussing then - I would doubt there was much if any mention of Russia at all?

 

[blackcat]

A 100,000 dollar spend on Facebook. Hon -est- ly.

As Kushner says he was spending that much every 3 hours.

Media and Dems and acolytes on social media are conning you again.

Seth Rich robbed but robbers left his phone and wallet cos he had already given his usb to a cutout who gave it to a Wikileaks member, but eh, whats the truth matter in this PoMo world.

 

[blackcat]

Sadly Satan, if Russian activity under Putin's order had been regarded as serious at the time then Obama would have done something about it. Wouldn't he? And did he? Quite the opposite.
https://news.yahoo.com/obama-cyber-...ssian-cyberattacks-summer-2016-204935758.html
So much for that.

Speaking as one who was supporting Hillary in that campaign I can attest that the Russian penetration news faded away after Obama's stand down. The emails hacked from Podesta's account were voluminous but innocuous.
It was James Comey's two interventions that were much more injurious to her campaign
Even then, I thought she would survive and beat Trump handily.

It would be interesting for someone to here to go back to the campaign and see what this forum was discussing then - I would doubt there was much if any mention of Russia at all?

#TDS Jane, the force runs strong in SRP subfora

 

[blackcat]

No. I don't mean that. Read the post. Read Mueller. Read the news. Read books. Read interviews with experts and people involved. Read SOMETHING, you utter clod.

Depends, is it a tabula rasa filter? #hieroglyphics ? ?
what is the political economy lens? Have you neutralised those factors? And one's own solipsism*?

*la pussie noir as well, not just Chief, he of unmatched wisdom?

***I am finished giving the town square a 15yearoldagegroup lesson in critical thinking.

___doing my best not to call anyone village idjeets. however, they are a perfect end-product finished materiel[sic] of Goebbels Godwin bloc alliterationz

*Zenosparadox&davidhume one cannot neutralise one's solipsism. so pussie hit you with a specious trickquestion innit

 

[blackcat]

#TDS Jane, the force runs strong in subfora SRP alliterationz

 

[blackcat]

will turn on each other post-mueller.

aka

#mulesing, the political #goatse

 

[skipper kelly]

SRP old timer u numpty;

meds,contramundum,evo,jane,dryrot,skipper kelly,are my witness(es);
____________tenyear+ history brah

Don't forget old man skilts.

Good banter back then.

 

[CM86]

No. I don't mean that. Read the post. Read Mueller. Read the news. Read books. Read interviews with experts and people involved. Read SOMETHING, you utter clod.

Can you imagine what their mechanic must go through when trying to explain to them why they have to pay for parts and labour?

Yes the part was $450, but the reason you brought it to a mechanic is due to the years of experience and technical expertise that allowed us to install it in your car...

 

[Chief]

Can you imagine what their mechanic must go through when trying to explain to them why they have to pay for parts and labour?

Yes the part was $450, but the reason you brought it to a mechanic is due to the years of experience and technical expertise that allowed us to install it in your car...

And how would $450 affect a car? The thing cost me tens of thousands!!!

 

[GuruJane]

Matt Taibbi of Rolling Stone takes apart some of the lies of the last two years:

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/russiagate-fiasco-taibbi-news-media-826246/

The Press Will Learn Nothing From the Russiagate Fiasco
The inability to face the enormity of the last few years of errors will cost the news media its credibility, even with blue-state audiences

By Matt Taibbi Matt Taibbi

You know what was fake news? Most of the Russiagate story. There was no Trump-Russia conspiracy, that thing we just spent three years chasing. The Mueller Report is crystal clear on this.

He didn’t just “fail to establish” evidence of crime. His report is full of incredibly damning passages, like one about Russian officialdom’s efforts to reach the Trump campaign after the election: “They appeared not to have preexisting contacts and struggled to connect with senior officials around the President-Elect.”
Not only was there no “collusion,” the two camps didn’t even have each others’ phone numbers!

In March of 2017, in one of the first of what would become a mountain of mafia-hierarchy-style “Trump-Russia contacts” graphics in major newspapers, the Washington Post described an email Trump lawyer Michael Cohen sent to Kremlin press secretary Dmitry Peskov. They called it “the most direct interaction yet of a top Trump aide and a senior member of Putin’s government.”

The report shows the whole episode was a joke. In order to further the Trump Tower project-that-never-was, Cohen literally cold-emailed the Kremlin. More than that, he entered the email incorrectly, so the letter initially didn’t even arrive. When he finally fixed the mistake, Peskov didn’t answer back.
That was “the most direct interaction yet of a top Trump aide and a senior member of Putin’s government”!

As outlined in his initial mandate, Mueller explored “any links” between the Russian government and the campaign of Donald Trump. His conclusion spoke directly to the question of whether there was any kind of quid pro quo between the two sides:
“The investigation examined whether these contacts involved or resulted in coordination or a conspiracy with the Trump Campaign and Russia, including with respect to Russia providing assistance to the Campaign in exchange for any sort of favorable treatment in the future.”
In other words, all those fancy org charts were meaningless. Because there was no conspiracy, all those “walls are closing in” reports — and there were a ton of them — were wrong. We were told we’d hit “turning point” after “turning point” leading to the “the beginning of the end,” with Trump certain, soon, to either resign in shame, Nixon-style, or be impeached.

The “RNC platform” change story was a canard, according to Mueller. The exchanges Trump figures had with ambassador Sergei Kislyak were “brief, public, and non-substantive.” The conversations Jeff Sessions had with Kislyak at the convention didn’t “include any more than a passing mention of the presidential campaign.” Mueller added “investigators did not establish that [Carter] Page conspired with the Russian government.”

There was no blackmail, no secret bribe from Rosneft, no five-year cultivation plan, no evidence of any kind of any relationship that ever existed between the Trump campaign and Russian officials. Michael Cohen “never traveled to Prague.”

The whole Steele dossier appears to have been bunk, with even Bob Woodward now saying the “highly questionable” document “needs to be investigated.” The Times similarly is reporting, two-plus years late, that “people familiar” with Steele’s work began to have “misgivings about [the report’s] reliability arose not long after the document became public.”

And this report barely scatches the surface of Luvvie Fake News debunked by Mueller....

 

[awaremind]

Your point is that the $100k is all that was spent and all that counts. You're ignoring groups and the fact that once people are in a Facebook Group you don't need to re-spend to reach them, depending on how much they interact with the group's postings you get future post views from that person for free. Shares and recommendations and re-Tweets are free.

It's not possible to discuss this with you when you are obtuse about the myriad other reported activities and the possible effects of all of them, and the implications for the Trump campaign and Presidency.

It's a waste of time to try.

I'm ruling my own line under interacting with you for the time being.

If Putin can do so much with 100k and a few million rubies the US should give up now, they are cooked.

 

[blackcat]

Don't forget old man skilts.

Good banter back then.

+ @slits[sic]

 

[blackcat]

If Putin can do so much with 100k and a few million rubies the US should give up now, they are cooked.

Chief, he of unmatched wisdom doesn't acknowledge, it's the freekin same every election campaign for Washington POTUS
... listen, Trump was not supposed to be President...
however Trump did NOT have those pesky Russians flip the election for him, Edmund Hillary NEVER LOST because of Putin
But no need to enable DNC, they need to pursue a rigorous accounting for shafting Bernie in the primaries, and going with a non-talent campaigner * (*political campaigner) in HRC when the electorate besides @KissSteph had seen enough of her and the Clintons to last two lifetimes, heck we probably still prefer the co-ed in the beret to Hillary even though the beret prolly was tossed and she is no longer young nor a co-ed nor as cute anymore.
#coedintheberet

#pudenda*

 

[blackcat]

Matt Taibbi of Rolling Stone takes apart some of the lies of the last two years:

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/russiagate-fiasco-taibbi-news-media-826246/

The Press Will Learn Nothing From the Russiagate Fiasco
The inability to face the enormity of the last few years of errors will cost the news media its credibility, even with blue-state audiences

By Matt Taibbi Matt Taibbi

You know what was fake news? Most of the Russiagate story. There was no Trump-Russia conspiracy, that thing we just spent three years chasing. The Mueller Report is crystal clear on this.

He didn’t just “fail to establish” evidence of crime. His report is full of incredibly damning passages, like one about Russian officialdom’s efforts to reach the Trump campaign after the election: “They appeared not to have preexisting contacts and struggled to connect with senior officials around the President-Elect.”
Not only was there no “collusion,” the two camps didn’t even have each others’ phone numbers!

Yes, Dmitry Peskov had to ring Joe Hockey who had to ring Naomi Robson who had to ring Greg Norman for POTUS Election Donald Trump's private number.

In March of 2017, in one of the first of what would become a mountain of mafia-hierarchy-style “Trump-Russia contacts” graphics in major newspapers, the Washington Post described an email Trump lawyer Michael Cohen sent to Kremlin press secretary Dmitry Peskov. They called it “the most direct interaction yet of a top Trump aide and a senior member of Putin’s government.”

The report shows the whole episode was a joke. In order to further the Trump Tower project-that-never-was, Cohen literally cold-emailed the Kremlin. More than that, he entered the email incorrectly, so the letter initially didn’t even arrive. When he finally fixed the mistake, Peskov didn’t answer back.
That was “the most direct interaction yet of a top Trump aide and a senior member of Putin’s government”!

As outlined in his initial mandate, Mueller explored “any links” between the Russian government and the campaign of Donald Trump. His conclusion spoke directly to the question of whether there was any kind of quid pro quo between the two sides:
“The investigation examined whether these contacts involved or resulted in coordination or a conspiracy with the Trump Campaign and Russia, including with respect to Russia providing assistance to the Campaign in exchange for any sort of favorable treatment in the future.”
In other words, all those fancy org charts were meaningless. Because there was no conspiracy, all those “walls are closing in” reports — and there were a ton of them — were wrong. We were told we’d hit “turning point” after “turning point” leading to the “the beginning of the end,” with Trump certain, soon, to either resign in shame, Nixon-style, or be impeached.

The “RNC platform” change story was a canard, according to Mueller. The exchanges Trump figures had with ambassador Sergei Kislyak were “brief, public, and non-substantive.” The conversations Jeff Sessions had with Kislyak at the convention didn’t “include any more than a passing mention of the presidential campaign.” Mueller added “investigators did not establish that [Carter] Page conspired with the Russian government.”

There was no blackmail, no secret bribe from Rosneft, no five-year cultivation plan, no evidence of any kind of any relationship that ever existed between the Trump campaign and Russian officials. Michael Cohen “never traveled to Prague.”

The whole Steele dossier appears to have been bunk, with even Bob Woodward now saying the “highly questionable” document “needs to be investigated.” The Times similarly is reporting, two-plus years late, that “people familiar” with Steele’s work began to have “misgivings about [the report’s] reliability arose not long after the document became public.”

And this report barely scatches the surface of Luvvie Fake News debunked by Mueller....

 

[awaremind]

 

[blackcat]

View attachment 661613

#coedintheberet FTW
I myself am partial to co-ed(s) in berets, I can relate to Bill's weakness, it's only natural

 

[awaremind]

 

[Chief]

If Putin can do so much with 100k and a few million rubies the US should give up now, they are cooked.

Way to repeat exactly the thing I've just pointed out ISN'T the point.

 

[awaremind]

Way to repeat exactly the thing I've just pointed out ISN'T the point.

When the facts are on your side you are harder to argue against.

 

[Chief]

Matt Taibbi of Rolling Stone takes apart some of the lies of the last two years:

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/russiagate-fiasco-taibbi-news-media-826246/

The Press Will Learn Nothing From the Russiagate Fiasco
The inability to face the enormity of the last few years of errors will cost the news media its credibility, even with blue-state audiences

By Matt Taibbi Matt Taibbi

You know what was fake news? Most of the Russiagate story. There was no Trump-Russia conspiracy, that thing we just spent three years chasing. The Mueller Report is crystal clear on this.

He didn’t just “fail to establish” evidence of crime. His report is full of incredibly damning passages, like one about Russian officialdom’s efforts to reach the Trump campaign after the election: “They appeared not to have preexisting contacts and struggled to connect with senior officials around the President-Elect.”
Not only was there no “collusion,” the two camps didn’t even have each others’ phone numbers!

In March of 2017, in one of the first of what would become a mountain of mafia-hierarchy-style “Trump-Russia contacts” graphics in major newspapers, the Washington Post described an email Trump lawyer Michael Cohen sent to Kremlin press secretary Dmitry Peskov. They called it “the most direct interaction yet of a top Trump aide and a senior member of Putin’s government.”

The report shows the whole episode was a joke. In order to further the Trump Tower project-that-never-was, Cohen literally cold-emailed the Kremlin. More than that, he entered the email incorrectly, so the letter initially didn’t even arrive. When he finally fixed the mistake, Peskov didn’t answer back.
That was “the most direct interaction yet of a top Trump aide and a senior member of Putin’s government”!

As outlined in his initial mandate, Mueller explored “any links” between the Russian government and the campaign of Donald Trump. His conclusion spoke directly to the question of whether there was any kind of quid pro quo between the two sides:
“The investigation examined whether these contacts involved or resulted in coordination or a conspiracy with the Trump Campaign and Russia, including with respect to Russia providing assistance to the Campaign in exchange for any sort of favorable treatment in the future.”
In other words, all those fancy org charts were meaningless. Because there was no conspiracy, all those “walls are closing in” reports — and there were a ton of them — were wrong. We were told we’d hit “turning point” after “turning point” leading to the “the beginning of the end,” with Trump certain, soon, to either resign in shame, Nixon-style, or be impeached.

The “RNC platform” change story was a canard, according to Mueller. The exchanges Trump figures had with ambassador Sergei Kislyak were “brief, public, and non-substantive.” The conversations Jeff Sessions had with Kislyak at the convention didn’t “include any more than a passing mention of the presidential campaign.” Mueller added “investigators did not establish that [Carter] Page conspired with the Russian government.”

There was no blackmail, no secret bribe from Rosneft, no five-year cultivation plan, no evidence of any kind of any relationship that ever existed between the Trump campaign and Russian officials. Michael Cohen “never traveled to Prague.”

The whole Steele dossier appears to have been bunk, with even Bob Woodward now saying the “highly questionable” document “needs to be investigated.” The Times similarly is reporting, two-plus years late, that “people familiar” with Steele’s work began to have “misgivings about [the report’s] reliability arose not long after the document became public.”

And this report barely scatches the surface of Luvvie Fake News debunked by Mueller....

Funny how Trump lied about meetings then. Very funny.

But this is all old news. Taibbi is falling into the trap Trump has set "It's about collusion, stupid!" Strange given he's usually pretty solid.

 

[Chief]

When the facts are on your side you are harder to argue against.

Yes - the facts around Trump's obstruction of justice are all there.

 

[Maggie5]

I am convinced, I will never bring up 'whataboutism' again. In fact I will make a bigger effort to join in.
Oh and Bill is a sleaze.

 

[blackcat]

Way to repeat exactly the thing I've just pointed out ISN'T the point.

It is the MSM #mainstreammedia in the #Beltway that cooked the alchemy conspiracy, and did more damage to populace/constituency paranoia. Before the votes counted and HRC lost there was NO #CONSPIRACY but a latent Goebbels populace willing to buy Chief, he of unmatched wisdom's BS.