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Strategy Jason Horne-Francis: North trade him to Port for massive unders

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Georgiades

My Fake Trade


WCE to split pick 2 into two firsts.

One to Port with Rioli for Georgiades. Port give that pick plus 8 and the Amon pick to North

Other pick to Melbourne for Jackson plus Future first..


North gain picks 8, 2022 F1, 23 lose JHF

WCE gain Georgiades and Jackson lose Rioli pick 2 and F1

Port gain Rioli and Jackson.

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I said it earlier, Georgiades is the key to Port getting JHF.

They wont have a choice and North need to force this to happen.
 
As I said if North hold onto him this year, we will be presenting North with better picks in 2023 and also have time for JHF to consider us.

North posters reading this, this is something you can comment on.

I think the only reason he "nominated" Port was because they expected Crows to hand over 5 for Rankine so it would be pissing into the wind to say he is okay going to Adelaide. He said he was still a Freo supporter the year we drafted him, hard to imagine he has fallen in love with them recently.

I think them chasing Jason isn't a great idea, as a free agent sure, if you were on the bottom of the ladder and he was out of contract, definitely. Port are in a weird place, I wouldn't be surprised if they imploded next year. Gray has retired, Boak is 34, is he going again? Amon has gone to the Hawks, Georgiades wants to go home, Bergman wants to go home, Duursma has flatlined, Rozee and Butters their only under 25 players that have hit a 20 disposal average. Is it the right time for them to be spending big on a player? He isn't going to be a cheap acquisition. Not my call though.

I'd prefer parting ways this year but it largely depends on how reasonable/desperate Port is. I think if we said we weren't trading him this year because Port couldn't get remotely close to what is "the media expectation" then I am sure he would be open to the Crows next year if they didn't think Port could get the job done.

I think being out of contract next year would be a different ball game. There is also the possible nightmare scenario that one of the SA teams ends up on the bottom for us because we'd go from what I think should be a good offer this year to potentially nothing next year.
 
I think the only reason he "nominated" Port was because they expected Crows to hand over 5 for Rankine so it would be pissing into the wind to say he is okay going to Adelaide. He said he was still a Freo supporter the year we drafted him, hard to imagine he has fallen in love with them recently.

I think them chasing Jason isn't a great idea, as a free agent sure, if you were on the bottom of the ladder and he was out of contract, definitely. Port are in a weird place, I wouldn't be surprised if they imploded next year. Gray has retired, Boak is 34, is he going again? Amon has gone to the Hawks, Georgiades wants to go home, Bergman wants to go home, Duursma has flatlined, Rozee and Butters their only under 25 players that have hit a 20 disposal average. Is it the right time for them to be spending big on a player? He isn't going to be a cheap acquisition. Not my call though.

I'd prefer parting ways this year but it largely depends on how reasonable/desperate Port is. I think if we said we weren't trading him this year because Port couldn't get remotely close to what is "the media expectation" then I am sure he would be open to the Crows next year if they didn't think Port could get the job done.

I think being out of contract next year would be a different ball game. There is also the possible nightmare scenario that one of the SA teams ends up on the bottom for us because we'd go from what I think should be a good offer this year to potentially nothing next year.
The Crows 2023 1st, 2nd and 2024 1st is going to be better than anything you get from Port.

Crows will still be a bottom 5 Club in 2023.

Holding onto JHF could lead to a bigger pay day, especially more so given the 2023 draft is rated higher than this years. Mind you they say that with every draft.
 

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Georgiades

My Fake Trade


WCE to split pick 2 into two firsts.

One to Port with Rioli for Georgiades. Port give that pick plus 8 and the Amon pick to North

Other pick to Melbourne for Jackson plus Future first..


North gain picks 8, 2022 F1, 23 lose JHF

WCE gain Georgiades and Jackson lose Rioli pick 2 and F1

Port gain Rioli and Jackson.

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What happened to JHF?
 
Good shout. A reminder for anyone who thinks North don’t have options

Kelly’s price was still very high when fell out of contract

Kelly backed up his trade request in 2018 with an AA selection in 2019.

JHF, with his attitude shown this year? Not at the same level.

HOWEVER, us also being in the convo next year will drive the price up. Port won’t want that. Port will need to pay up this year because next year we come knocking as well.
 
Kelly backed up his trade request in 2018 with an AA selection in 2019.

JHF, with his attitude shown this year? Not at the same level.

HOWEVER, us also being in the convo next year will drive the price up. Port won’t want that. Port will need to pay up this year because next year we come knocking as well.

If you know what’s gonna happen next year best get down the bookies
 
The Crows 2023 1st, 2nd and 2024 1st is going to be better than anything you get from Port.

Crows will still be a bottom 5 Club in 2023.

Holding onto JHF could lead to a bigger pay day, especially more so given the 2023 draft is rated higher than this years. Mind you they say that with every draft.

I think there will be a lot of suitors for him next year, some would ask him to consider going elsewhere. I think the timing has left a lot to be desired but the circumstances this year are pretty unusual, especially with this Hawthorn investigation.
 
I said it earlier, Georgiades is the key to Port getting JHF.

They wont have a choice and North need to force this to happen.
Going to be interesting if Port refuse to trade out any players.

Means their best offer is picks #8, #27 & future 1st.

Doubt the Roos would except this for a contracted gum.

Also, how do they then land Rioli?
 
Jack Gunston was not contracted
No he wasn't.

And that wasnt mentioned in the post I was replying to. I was just making a point about homesickness.
 

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The Crows 2023 1st, 2nd and 2024 1st is going to be better than anything you get from Port.

Crows will still be a bottom 5 Club in 2023.

Holding onto JHF could lead to a bigger pay day, especially more so given the 2023 draft is rated higher than this years. Mind you they say that with every draft.
It could lead to a bigger pay day for North if he has a breakout year, it could also be a disaster for them. If JHF goes backwards next year and has more behavioural issues then North will likely get less than they could this trade period. He will be out of contract and North will lose any power they have now.

I think North would be crazy to take the risk, now is the time to cut their losses and cash in while they can. It would take a huge turnaround to get him to change his mind next year and commit long term for them.
 
Georgiades

My Fake Trade


WCE to split pick 2 into two firsts.

One to Port with Rioli for Georgiades. Port give that pick plus 8 and the Amon pick to North

Other pick to Melbourne for Jackson plus Future first..


North gain picks 8, 2022 F1, 23 lose JHF

WCE gain Georgiades and Jackson lose Rioli pick 2 and F1

Port gain Rioli and Jackson.

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How many Jackson’s are up for trade?
 
Shouldn’t you have known this?

He also started the 2nd half of the 1998 grand final in the middle, turning the game for us

That was the second half of the '97 prelim.

By the end of his third season he was a norm smith winning elite.

By the end of his fourth he was an All Australian, who had kicked seven goals in a preliminary final and won back to back Norm Smiths.

People need to stop it. The comparison is too often made, and never earned.
 
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I think the only reason he "nominated" Port was because they expected Crows to hand over 5 for Rankine so it would be pissing into the wind to say he is okay going to Adelaide. He said he was still a Freo supporter the year we drafted him, hard to imagine he has fallen in love with them recently.

I think them chasing Jason isn't a great idea, as a free agent sure, if you were on the bottom of the ladder and he was out of contract, definitely. Port are in a weird place, I wouldn't be surprised if they imploded next year. Gray has retired, Boak is 34, is he going again? Amon has gone to the Hawks, Georgiades wants to go home, Bergman wants to go home, Duursma has flatlined, Rozee and Butters their only under 25 players that have hit a 20 disposal average. Is it the right time for them to be spending big on a player? He isn't going to be a cheap acquisition. Not my call though.

I'd prefer parting ways this year but it largely depends on how reasonable/desperate Port is. I think if we said we weren't trading him this year because Port couldn't get remotely close to what is "the media expectation" then I am sure he would be open to the Crows next year if they didn't think Port could get the job done.

I think being out of contract next year would be a different ball game. There is also the possible nightmare scenario that one of the SA teams ends up on the bottom for us because we'd go from what I think should be a good offer this year to potentially nothing next year.
Bergman and georgiades want to go home?
 
Shouldn’t you have known this?

He also started the 2nd half of the 1998 grand final in the middle, turning the game for us

Did I not say he had stints both forward and midfield?

He had stints in midfield in all the finals.

Really, get over it.

Rankine and Rachele will be part of a midfield. Nothing surer.
 

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