Venezuela - How to stay in power.

[Todman]

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/government-opposition-both-claim-venezuela-election-win-official-results-2024-07-29/

Venezuelans vote in election challenging Maduro's grip on power

The opposition is hopeful it can oust the incumbent, whose party has ruled the country for 25 years.

www.bbc.com

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/29/americas/venezuela-election-results-maduro-opposition-intl-latam/index.html

 

[Seeds]

A dictator just being a dictator and fudging the result. Nothing will change there sadly without a revolution.

 

[darrenmorgan]

A dictator just being a dictator and fudging the result. Nothing will change there sadly without a revolution.

watch for the GOP to try similar things in November.

 

[EagleMan87]

Oh boy.

 

[BigPond101]

Oh dear Chief. Your team turned out to be the fascists aferall. Outvoted 4 to 1 but still declaring "democratic victory"

 

[spinynorman]

We can’t trust the official numbers because they’re controlled by Maduro. Now let’s uncritically parrot the numbers given by the opposition with zero burden of proof.

 

[Zidane98]

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Oh boy.

Nothing like recognition from North Korea that your election results are completely legit.

 

[EagleMan87]

Nothing like recognition from North Korea that your election results are completely legit.

As well as Russia and Iran. Where's George W. with his 'Axis of Evil' talk when you need him?

 

[BigPond101]

Chief what is your opinion on Venezuela? Your boy Maduro has only been a dictator for 10 years so a bit of a lightweight compared to Castro and friends. He doesn't quite make your hall of fame

 

[barreness]

Chief what is your opinion on Venezuela? Your boy Maduro has only been a dictator for 10 years so a bit of a lightweight compared to Castro and friends. He doesn't quite make your hall of fame

Bus drivers man, what can you say

I do wonder why the US sanctions countries that are so doomed to fail, all those colour revolutions and propaganda networks surely cost a pretty penny

 

[barreness]

Nothing like recognition from North Korea that your election results are completely legit.

Kinda ironic given the 'elected' south korean leadership at the end of ww2

 

[Majunga]

Bus drivers man, what can you say

I do wonder why the US sanctions countries that are so doomed to fail, all those colour revolutions and propaganda networks surely cost a pretty penny

 

[Green Hammer]

Remember the monroe doctrine??

 

[IlovethePies]

Remember the monroe doctrine??

Yeah, Trump has been invoking it recently.

He's also been murdering Venezuelian citizens sailing in boats in the Carribean with no proof of anything.

Now he is seizing Venezuelan oil tankers and confiscating their cargos ($78 million of crude oil in the recent act of piracy by the Trump administration).

He has declared that his administration will continue to seize Venezuelan oil tankers. This is justified on the basis that Venezuela is supposedly supplying terrorist networks with oil.

Actually, it is because Venezeula supplies 80% of its oil to China, and the US aims to:

a) sabotage the Venezuelan economy by suppressing this trade

b) use the resulting economic catastrophe, and most likely military invervention as well to overthrow the Maduro regime and replace it with the fascists centred around the vulture Machado (ie the Nobel Peace prize recipient lol)

c) roll back any economic influence of China in Latin America because Latin America is the backyard of the US, and China is the US' mortal enemy.

Meanwhile, seizing Venezuelan oil tankers amounts to an economic blockade, which is recognized as an act of war in international law.

 

[Zidane98]

Venezuelan oil is shithouse. Not worth transporting anywhere, needing heavy refinement. If the Chinese are taking it Venezuela will be giving it away or worse Maduro and co are being paid off by the Chinese on the side to loot the countries resources.

Most of it will never be economically feasible to extract. It would have been worth it in the 90s-20s but now isn't.

The biggest problem with Venezuela is a murderous dictator planning on bullshit unilateral annexations and shattering peace in S America. He was recently bragging about restoring Gran Colombia based on historic claims. We all know where we've heard that playbook before.

Everyone loses except for said dictators and their friends in such a scenario..

The world is better off without people like Maduro.

 

[barreness]

Venezuelan oil is shithouse. Not worth transporting anywhere, needing heavy refinement. If the Chinese are taking it Venezuela will be giving it away or worse Maduro and co are being paid off by the Chinese on the side to loot the countries resources.

Most of it will never be economically feasible to extract. It would have been worth it in the 90s-20s but now isn't.

The biggest problem with Venezuela is a murderous dictator planning on bullshit unilateral annexations and shattering peace in S America. He was recently bragging about restoring Gran Colombia based on historic claims. We all know where we've heard that playbook before.

Everyone loses except for said dictators and their friends in such a scenario..

The world is better off without people like Maduro.

This is like the opposite from reality; as easy oil runs low, lower value sources become more feasible.

Oil only becomes uneconomic when energy return on energy invested goes below like 3ish.

Well done on another terrible take though

 

[barreness]

This stuff is disgusting, abc running uncritical propaganda for a new invasion/regime change.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-12...machado-venezuela-opposition-leader/106119516
The daughter of a prominent steel industry businessman and a psychologist, Ms Machado was born in 1967 into an upper-class family in Caracas.

She attended an elite girls' school in the Venezuelan capital, and later a boarding school in the United States, before returning to Caracas for university to study industrial engineering.

 

[Zidane98]

This is like the opposite from reality; as easy oil runs low, lower value sources become more feasible.

Oil only becomes uneconomic when energy return on energy invested goes below like 3ish.

Well done on another terrible take though

Which is exactly what I posted. Congratulations on being the forum potato again.

Here's an article to explain it:

Venezuela has the world’s most oil: Why doesn’t it earn more from exports?

Venezuela holds the world's largest proven oil reserves, more than five times more than the United States.

www.aljazeera.com

Venezuelan oil needs a far more expensive refining process than sweeter forms of crude oil. It's why it isn't in demand globally.

Oil use worldwide is on a permanent downward trend. The biggest users of oil srre motor vehicles and within 50 years at the most the majority of cars will be electric.

 

[barreness]

Which is exactly what I posted. Congratulations on being the forum potato again.

Here's an article to explain it:

Venezuela has the world’s most oil: Why doesn’t it earn more from exports?

Venezuela holds the world's largest proven oil reserves, more than five times more than the United States.

www.aljazeera.com

Do you even read the articles you post? How can one man be wrong about almost everything they post

Nothing in this suggests it is 'economically infeasible', which was your contention

PDVSA has historically faced challenges, including ageing infrastructure, underinvestment, mismanagement and the effects of international sanctions, all of which have limited Venezuela’s ability to fully exploit its vast reserves.

Venezuelan oil needs a far more expensive refining process than sweeter forms of crude oil. It's why it isn't in demand globally.

Sure, it's more expensive to refine. This becomes more economical as cheaper forms run out right?

Oil use worldwide is on a permanent downward trend. The biggest users of oil srre motor vehicles and within 50 years at the most the majority of cars will be electric.

No it isn't. We're at roughly 100 million barrels a day, the highest ever.

It looks like it's hit a plateau around this point because conventional oil extraction peaked at ~2008. Hence we've seen a rise of unconventional fracking, oil sands etc. This is supply limitation not a demand drive

This just makes Venezuelan oil more important than ever and why we're seeing the US trying to roll them currently

 

[Upstart Swan]

So now Maduro's gone and the World's Policeman has announced that they will be running the show until peace and democracy are restored.

Will the US install the defeated opposition leader Gonzalez Urrutia as new leader? Or I wonder if Venezuela is about to get its own Augusto Pinochet?

 

[Seeds]

Dont know how anyone cant support Maduro. Him going is potentially a great thing.

Sometime the enemy of your enemy is also your enemy. That is the case here.

 

[Zidane98]

Maduro is a modern day Pablo Escobar.

 

[Seeds]

I dont for a second think trump did this to restore democracy. But to say its 100 percent oil is just plain wrong. He also did it for domestic political reasons (venezuelan immigrant vote) and his war on drug imports.

And if democracy is going to be restored in Venezuela then Im all for it. If we had a global humanist government then they would of done the same thing.

 

[Baldur]

Let US or Chinese companies ravage your resources.

 

[bzparkes]

So now Maduro's gone and the World's Policeman has announced that they will be running the show until peace and democracy are restored.

Will the US install the defeated opposition leader Gonzalez Urrutia as new leader? Or I wonder if Venezuela is about to get its own Augusto Pinochet?