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Thanks all.

 

[troybe]

Well, she did steal Trump’s peace prize.

There must be an arrest warrant for Muchado for theft ready to be served

 

[largebus]

Honduran president Juan Orlando Hernández paid his bribe to the feds after getting a 45 year sentence for trafficking and got a pardon.

That's all Maduro has to do here. Give them their cut of the drug/oil money.

 

[BomToydd]

 

[bzparkes]

Are you for real? The only reason most of Trumps political foes aren't in jail is because even with a crooked justice department and a rigged Supreme Court he can't get indictments to hold up.
The Justice Department supposedly the bastion of ethical legal procedure illegally appointed a judge to go after Jack Smith because the legally appointed one resigned rather than bring a prosecution with no legal basis to it.
Please note the bolded below with the number of individuals he's gone after since being elected.

And this is without even getting into the Media Organizations, Universities, Law Firms, Tech Companies, etc he's been shaking down to get them to tow the line.

I asked Google AI how many lawsuits he has attempted since the start of his second term.
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how many people and or corporations and or universities and or government departments has Trump tried to sue or mitigate against in his second term?

In the first year of his second term (2025–2026), Donald Trump and his administration have been involved in hundreds of legal actions. While the administration is frequently the defendant (sued by others challenging his executive orders), it has also proactively used the Department of Justice (DOJ) and lawsuits to target political rivals, state laws, and specific institutions.

1. Government Departments & Political Opponents

The Trump administration has used the DOJ and executive authority to pursue or "retaliate" against specific government figures and political opponents.

• Criminal Prosecutions: As of late 2025, the DOJ had initiated criminal prosecutions or investigations against at least six high-profile individuals, including former FBI Director James Comey, former National Security Advisor John Bolton, and New York Attorney General Letitia James.
• Retribution Lists: By November 2025, reports indicated that Trump had targeted or threatened at least 470 people and organizations for various forms of "retribution," including legal action and firing.
• War with the Judiciary: In a rare move, the administration sued all 15 federal district judges in Maryland in June 2025 to challenge standing orders that slowed down deportation efforts.

Seeing as how you like AI for your info, here's a rebuttal from ChatGPT. I copied and pasted your entire post and added no prompting of my own. Make of it what you will.

The claim you quoted mixes rhetoric, speculation, and factual error. Let’s break it down clearly and factually.

1. Has Trump put “most of his political foes in jail”?

No.

People are not in jail because of Trump’s political opposition to them. No credible evidence exists that Trump has used the justice system to jail political adversaries.

Individuals like Joe Biden, Democrats, or public figures have not been criminally prosecuted or jailed because of Trump’s orders.

The U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) is institutionally independent, and prosecutors decide cases based on evidence and law.

So the claim that Trump has been prevented only by a “crooked justice department and a rigged Supreme Court” is baseless.

2. What about Jack Smith and the “crooked” prosecution claims?

Jack Smith is a special counsel appointed by the DOJ to oversee cases involving Trump. Claims that the judge was “illegally appointed” or that the case lacked legal basis come from partisan commentary — not credible legal analysis.
Federal judges are appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate.

Judges do not resign simply because a case is “weak” — they follow the law.

Special counsels operate within DOJ rules; they do not act independently of the law.

There’s no legal consensus supporting the idea that any Trump-related prosecution is inherently invalid due to appointment issues.

3. Has Trump “gone after” many individuals/corporations/etc. in his second term (2025–2026)?

This likely refers to civil lawsuits, investigations, or threats of litigation, but:
Important distinctions
Civil lawsuits vs. criminal prosecution:

Trump could seek to sue entities himself (as a private individual) — but that’s very different from using the government to prosecute opponents.

Political rhetoric from supporters is not the same as legal action.

Official government lawsuits are typically brought by DOJ or other agencies, not by the president personally.

What we know (as of early 2026)
There is no evidence that Trump has:

Directed the DOJ to prosecute political enemies
Filed a systematic campaign of lawsuits against universities, corporations, or media organizations as part of an authoritarian purge
Used government power to “shake down” entities to make them toe a political line

There may be:
Civil suits by Trump personally (Trump has long been known to use litigation defensively or proactively)

Oversight or investigations initiated by Congress or executive agencies under his administration, but those are part of governmental authority, not personal vendettas.

But they are not on the scale claimed (e.g., hundreds of targeted prosecutions of political foes).

4. Is the DOJ “crooked” or “rigged”?
The U.S. justice system is deeply scrutinized, and critics from both sides attack it. But these points are important:

DOJ and federal prosecutors do not answer directly to the president on charging decisions.
Federal judges are appointed for life and cannot be removed easily.

Cases proceed on evidence and legal standards — not direct presidential preference.

That means:
A president cannot simply order prosecutions that will automatically stick.
Claims that prosecutions are “illegal” must be evaluated in court.

5. Has Trump targeted institutions like media, universities, corporations?

There is no verified record that Trump has:

✔ Systematically sued media companies as president

✔ Used federal power to force universities into political compliance

✔ Targeted law firms with official criminal accusations for being “political opponents”

There have been:
Public criticisms of media outlets
Comments about legal reforms
Political rhetoric against institutions perceived as unfriendly

But:
Rhetoric is not legal action
Public statements do not equate to prosecutions
Why this claim spreads

Here are the real reasons claims like this circulate:
✔ Emotional appeal
People like simple narratives such as:
“Leader X is persecuted by all enemies”

✔ Political alignment
Supporters or opponents use exaggerated claims to motivate their base.

✔ Confusion between rhetoric and reality
Criticism of “the media,” “big tech,” or “universities” gets exaggerated into legal persecution, when in reality it’s usually speech not legal action.

✔ Misinformation loops
Quotes like “he tried to sue hundreds of entities” often come from unverified social media, not documented court filings.

Bottom line (simple and factual)
No, Trump has not been jailing political opponents in his second term.

There is no credible basis to say the DOJ is illegally run or blocked him.

There is no evidence he has launched a systemic campaign of legal action against media, universities, corporations, or government departments as political enemies.

✔ Trump may engage in litigation as a private individual — but that’s different from government prosecutions.

 

[bzparkes]

Amended, and correct, anyone within nodding distance of reality dislikes/hates, pedo's.

Do you believe in due process?

 

[Demonic Ascent]

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What are the charges?

Under which jurisdiction?

"Kinetic action" fmd, their euphemisms are sickening

"Protect and defend" military personnel invading the sovereign territory of another nation and kidnapping their head of state and his wife

 

[LuvtheKangas]

Of course I do, as I said in response to that person I want the files released in full and Trump arrested if he's implicated, which I presume he is.

I don't have to say that in response to every poster who says "You don't condemn Trump over Venezuela so that means you support pedos, RAWR!".

It's obnoxious behaviour.

Well, this line of posting started today when you accused people of being OK with bombings under Obama whilst criticising Trump's latest totally disgraceful act.

You were even obnoxious enough to search BigFooty posts to make your attempted gotcha.

 

[bzparkes]

Well, this line of posting started today when you accused people of being OK with bombings under Obama whilst criticising Trump's latest totally disgraceful act.

You were even obnoxious enough to search BigFooty posts to make your attempted gotcha.

I attempted to search because I was told to by Chief

 

[Elroo]

Do you believe in due process?

I'm not sure as a MAGA cultist you'd want to go anywhere near a discussion on due process.

 

[sherb]

 

[BomToydd]

 

[LuvtheKangas]

I attempted to search because I was told to by Chief

In that case, I can only hope that Chief tells you to provide evidence supporting your claim relating to the flow of fentanyl into the US via Venezuela.

 

[E Shed]

Seeing as how you like AI for your info, here's a rebuttal from ChatGPT. I copied and pasted your entire post and added no prompting of my own. Make of it what you will.

The claim you quoted mixes rhetoric, speculation, and factual error. Let’s break it down clearly and factually.

1. Has Trump put “most of his political foes in jail”?

No.

People are not in jail because of Trump’s political opposition to them. No credible evidence exists that Trump has used the justice system to jail political adversaries.

Individuals like Joe Biden, Democrats, or public figures have not been criminally prosecuted or jailed because of Trump’s orders.

The U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) is institutionally independent, and prosecutors decide cases based on evidence and law.

So the claim that Trump has been prevented only by a “crooked justice department and a rigged Supreme Court” is baseless.

2. What about Jack Smith and the “crooked” prosecution claims?

Jack Smith is a special counsel appointed by the DOJ to oversee cases involving Trump. Claims that the judge was “illegally appointed” or that the case lacked legal basis come from partisan commentary — not credible legal analysis.
Federal judges are appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate.

Judges do not resign simply because a case is “weak” — they follow the law.

Special counsels operate within DOJ rules; they do not act independently of the law.

There’s no legal consensus supporting the idea that any Trump-related prosecution is inherently invalid due to appointment issues.

3. Has Trump “gone after” many individuals/corporations/etc. in his second term (2025–2026)?

This likely refers to civil lawsuits, investigations, or threats of litigation, but:
Important distinctions
Civil lawsuits vs. criminal prosecution:

Trump could seek to sue entities himself (as a private individual) — but that’s very different from using the government to prosecute opponents.

Political rhetoric from supporters is not the same as legal action.

Official government lawsuits are typically brought by DOJ or other agencies, not by the president personally.

What we know (as of early 2026)
There is no evidence that Trump has:

Directed the DOJ to prosecute political enemies
Filed a systematic campaign of lawsuits against universities, corporations, or media organizations as part of an authoritarian purge
Used government power to “shake down” entities to make them toe a political line

There may be:
Civil suits by Trump personally (Trump has long been known to use litigation defensively or proactively)

Oversight or investigations initiated by Congress or executive agencies under his administration, but those are part of governmental authority, not personal vendettas.

But they are not on the scale claimed (e.g., hundreds of targeted prosecutions of political foes).

4. Is the DOJ “crooked” or “rigged”?
The U.S. justice system is deeply scrutinized, and critics from both sides attack it. But these points are important:

DOJ and federal prosecutors do not answer directly to the president on charging decisions.
Federal judges are appointed for life and cannot be removed easily.

Cases proceed on evidence and legal standards — not direct presidential preference.

That means:
A president cannot simply order prosecutions that will automatically stick.
Claims that prosecutions are “illegal” must be evaluated in court.

5. Has Trump targeted institutions like media, universities, corporations?

There is no verified record that Trump has:

✔ Systematically sued media companies as president

✔ Used federal power to force universities into political compliance

✔ Targeted law firms with official criminal accusations for being “political opponents”

There have been:
Public criticisms of media outlets
Comments about legal reforms
Political rhetoric against institutions perceived as unfriendly

But:
Rhetoric is not legal action
Public statements do not equate to prosecutions
Why this claim spreads

Here are the real reasons claims like this circulate:
✔ Emotional appeal
People like simple narratives such as:
“Leader X is persecuted by all enemies”

✔ Political alignment
Supporters or opponents use exaggerated claims to motivate their base.

✔ Confusion between rhetoric and reality
Criticism of “the media,” “big tech,” or “universities” gets exaggerated into legal persecution, when in reality it’s usually speech not legal action.

✔ Misinformation loops
Quotes like “he tried to sue hundreds of entities” often come from unverified social media, not documented court filings.

Bottom line (simple and factual)
No, Trump has not been jailing political opponents in his second term.

There is no credible basis to say the DOJ is illegally run or blocked him.

There is no evidence he has launched a systemic campaign of legal action against media, universities, corporations, or government departments as political enemies.

✔ Trump may engage in litigation as a private individual — but that’s different from government prosecutions.

That is so full of factual error I don't even know where to start.
If you honestly believe that Trump hasn't corrupted and weaponized the DOJ, that the hasn't systematically gone after media companies and universities and that he hasn't targeted people like Jack Smith for retribution then you are poorly informed. At the very least.

 

[NSWCROW]

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When Diet Coke just won’t quench that thirst. One needs a full bodied viscous liquid to satiate the palate.

 

[bzparkes]

That is so full of factual error I don't even know where to start.
If you honestly believe that Trump hasn't corrupted and weaponized the DOJ, that the hasn't systematically gone after media companies and universities and that he hasn't targeted people like Jack Smith for retribution then you are poorly informed. At the very least.

Your AI vs my AI.

Take it up with either of them.

 

[bzparkes]

I'm not sure as a MAGA cultist you'd want to go anywhere near a discussion on due process.

See, this is where I can't help but laugh at people like you.

I share a neutral opinion but because I don't align with you exactly, you label me a MAGA cultist.

You people aren't interested in honest debate, just imposing your own sense of moral superiority on others.

 

[QuietB]

Do you believe in due process?

lol

How is that going for the fishing boats?

 

[10571z]

How many did Obama's administration snatch off the streets and send to prisons in countries these immigrants were not from? All without any due process.

I'll await your answer with anticipation.

Under Obama people were deported after routine traffic stops. It wasn't all sunshine and rainbows. Not to mention most didn't get in front of a judge. Regarding due process, the data from the Obama era is even more revealing. By 2013, a record 83% were carried out through summary administrative processes where the individual never even saw an immigration judge.

There is countless stories. Sure Trump isn't perfect but when your removing people at such large numbers there's going to be some failures.

While no administration can legally send people to prisons in countries they aren't from, the Obama administration was frequently called out for "fast-tracking" people back to dangerous regions without the proper asylum hearings required by law. Investigations from that era found that many individuals were murdered shortly after arrival in their home countries because they were never given the day in court necessary to prove they were fleeing violence. They were essentially treated as numbers to be cleared from a spreadsheet.

The defence of the Trump administration is that it brought transparency and uniformity to the law. Trump didn't hide behind "priority tiers" while quietly deporting millions.... he made it clear that federal law would be enforced consistently. While Obama used quiet, administrative shortcuts to rack up record-breaking numbers, Trump focused on restoring the integrity of the border to end the "catch and release" and judge-less removal cycles. Trump’s administration actually deported fewer people overall than Obama’s first term, but he did so while being honest about the fact that the law was actually being enforced

Latest Report on Obama Immigration Program Highlights Racial Profiling | ACLU

www.aclu.org

The Border Patrol Was Monstrous Under Obama. Imagine How Bad It Is Under Trump. | ACLU

www.aclu.org

 

[bzparkes]

lol

How is that going for the fishing boats?

Swimmingly.

 

[Royces Hart]

Chief can you create an “Enlightened Centrist” badge?

 

[Festerz]

I'm seriously starting to question the credibility of the FIFA Peace Prize.

 

[bzparkes]

Chief can you create an “Enlightened Centrist” badge?

As long as he also hands out blue pom poms for all the cheerleaders in here.

 

[Kappa]

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How does Trump support Putin?

 

[100action]

I’m devastated by this illegal capture of an elected head of state by Trump.

I live in constant fear my beloved leader, Albo who lives at 5 Adelaide Avenue, Deakin, ACT share the same fate. He’s usually home with Jodie by 9pm.

 

[BomToydd]

I’m devastated by this illegal capture of an elected head of state by Trump.

I live in constant fear my beloved leader, Albo who lives at 5 Adelaide Avenue, Deakin, ACT share the same fate. He’s usually home with Jodie by 9pm.

Unhinged. Don't worry he would probably thank trump for the free plane ride