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[bourbons]

Wouldn't surprise me if the Cartels are next.

Bit of a strange move not to hit the cartels first then considering thats where 90% of the USA's drugs come from.

Honestly not sure what to tell anyone who still somehow thinks this is in any way about drugs

If there's one thing abundantly clear now, in 2026, surely its that Trump couldn't give 2 shits about any troubles of the rank and file citizenry. A government of the oligarchs, by the oligarchs for the oligarchs.

 

[Gavin Excell]

How many times have people decalared that "this will be the end of Trump." Not even the Epstein files are going to bring him down. Too many keys to power like him being at the top and the rest are too afraid of him to go against him.

Who's going to stop him? Both Albo and Starmer have already let Venezuala slide. This has only reinforced that US military hegemony is as strong as it has ever been.

I think when Trump tells us his plans we should believe him. If he goes for Greenland western leaders will offer some mild handwringing and Denmark will stamp their feet but ultimately no one will be able to stop them.

I agree
Hitler basically set out his plan in 1920s in Mein Kampf and followed through.

Trump has made it clear on Greenland to the point where the Danish PM has today felt it necessary to plead him to reconsider

 

[bzparkes]

Bit of a strange move not to hit the cartels first then considering thats where 90% of the USA's drugs come from.

Honestly not sure what to tell anyone who still somehow thinks this is in any way about drugs

If there's one thing abundantly clear now, in 2026, surely its that Trump couldn't give 2 shits about any troubles of the rank and file citizenry. A government of the oligarchs, by the oligarchs for the oligarchs.

It's not mainly about drugs, that's just a beneficial byproduct of this.

It's about removing Iranian, Chinese and Russian influence out of the western hemisphere.

 

[bourbons]

Wait until they find out how many people Obama deported.

True, how funny will it be when Trump is outdone on his signature policy by both Obama and Biden

Didn't even need roving bands of masked up gestapo either, the Trump admin's incompetence is truly something else.

Good of you to pop back into the thread by the way mate, have you accepted that the US bombed Venezuela yet?

 

[76woodenspooners]

Yes oil companies. They don't really care if Trump wants to 'drill baby drill' if it's not going to make money for them.

What they made money from in the past =/= what they'll make money from today or tomorrow either. Plus, if they know they can sell it at current prices why cut their margins?

Supply and Demand is far too simplistic.

You don’t think the Trump administration would have had a discussion about Venezuela with the oil companies?

No way would they have bothered with this circus if Chevron, etc were simply going to say “Nah, we’re all good, we don’t need Venezuelan oil”.

 

[faible]

It's not mainly about drugs, that's just a beneficial byproduct of this.

It's about removing Iranian, Chinese and Russian influence out of the western hemisphere.

What beneficial byproduct? He literally pardoned a guy convicted of drug trafficking.

 

[BrisDog]

He is like a 12 year old bully, happy to beat up 5 year olds, but won't touch kids who are 10 or older.

Let’s wait and see…

 

[RUNVS]

Let’s wait and see…

Yes, given this is Trump I think my choice of words were not ideal there.

 

[faible]

You don’t think the Trump administration would have had a discussion about Venezuela with the oil companies?

No way would they have bothered with this circus if Chevron, etc were simply going to say “Nah, we’re all good, we don’t need Venezuelan oil”.

This isn't really a reply to what I've written.

I'm sure the oil companies would enjoy access to more oil, especially if that oil is cheaper and/or easier to access and/or subject to less environmental restrictions than that which they can source domestically.

There's no guarantee this leads to lower fuel prices though, given if they already know they have a sweet spot at $x/barrel, and they can cut their costs to improve their profit margin without decreasing the price, they'll just do that instead.

Trump acts like it's a case where companies will just produce oodles and oodles of oil for <reasons> so they can sell it at bargain basement prices for <also reasons> because that's a fun sell to the electorate.

 

[Nikita Blue]

Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com)

Trump: "We need Greenland from a national security situation. It's so strategic. Right now, Greenland is covered with Russian and Chinese ships all over the place. We need Greenland from the standpoint of national security. And Denmark is not gonna be able to do it ... the EU needs us to have it"

bsky.app

So disappointing from a FIFA peace prize winner.

 

[RUNVS]

Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com)

Trump: "We need Greenland from a national security situation. It's so strategic. Right now, Greenland is covered with Russian and Chinese ships all over the place. We need Greenland from the standpoint of national security. And Denmark is not gonna be able to do it ... the EU needs us to have it"

bsky.app

So disappointing from a FIFA peace prize winner.

Which is why I genuinely think this is something that could happen in the next 6 months or so, and I think it is something Europe needs to begin planning for now.

All the Venezuela situation has done is give Trump more of a feeling of the rules not applying to him, and that he can do whatever he wants to do, and he has said many times how he wants Greenland to belong to the US.

He is far more likely to do it now than he was a week ago.

 

[bzparkes]

What beneficial byproduct? He literally pardoned a guy convicted of drug trafficking.

Sure he did. Do you reckon he's going to set up a drug-trafficking ring again?

He's done this for most likely one of the 2 below reasons:

1 - The former president of Honduras 'gave up' people to secure a pardon.

2 - The former president of Honduras got the carrot whilst Maduro got the stick. This will make other corrupt presidents of central America reconsider their relations with the USA, namely Columbia and Mexico.

 

[bzparkes]

Which is why I genuinely think this is something that could happen in the next 6 months or so, and I think it is something Europe needs to begin planning for now.

Plan for what? At this stage, Europe is basically a vassal state of the USA.

Without USA's intervention with weapons in Ukraine, it likely would've fallen and Putin would be eyeing off the rest of the Balkans, if not the rest of Europe itself.

 

[faible]

Sure he did. Do you reckon he's going to set up a drug-trafficking ring again?

He's done this for most likely one of the 2 below reasons:

1 - The former president of Honduras 'gave up' people to secure a pardon.

2 - The former president of Honduras got the carrot whilst Maduro got the stick. This will make other corrupt presidents of central America reconsider their relations with the USA, namely Columbia and Mexico.

What is with people assuming Trump is playing 4D chess when there's literally no evidence, ever, that's the case.

Far more likely is:

#3 Trump got something out of the deal.

 

[Chadwiko]

Where's that dude who exposed himself as clueless by trying to act like China wouldn't care about sovereignty?

EDIT: Oh he changed his username and his account is suspended? Classic.

China respects sovereignty? Are you serious? This has to be a piss take

Well, here's another response for you;

China’s top diplomat had condemned Donald Trump’s attack on Venezuela, saying no nation should “play the role of world policeman”.

Addressing the unfolding situation in Venezuela, Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi said: “We never believe that any country can play the role of world policeman, nor do we agree that any country can claim itself to be an international judge.”

He added that the sovereignty and security of all countries should be fully protected by international law.

“China always opposes the use or threat of force, as well as any imposition of one country’s will on another.”

 

[bzparkes]

What is with people assuming Trump is playing 4D chess when there's literally no evidence, ever, that's the case.

Far more likely is:

#3 Trump got something out of the deal.

Forgot about the bombing of Iran's nuclear sites already?

 

[bourbons]

This is off tangent but put it this way: The Democrats were up in Arms when Trump did the whole "lock her up!" spiel in his 2016 campaign. He then proceeded to to nothing about it.

Democrats tried multiple times to prosecute Trump prior to the 2024 election and failed to impact his popularity. I spoke with a number of people after Trump was elected this term who were adamant Trump would start prosecuting Democrats, which clearly hasn't happened.

They were very happy to weaponise the system against him(including impeachments in 2019 & 2021) but were terrified when they thought it would happen to them.

This is an insane reading of reality lol

This is off tangent but put it this way: The Democrats were up in Arms when Trump did the whole "lock her up!" spiel in his 2016 campaign. He then proceeded to to nothing about it.

Eh? Of course he's gone after Democrats and perceived enemies in retaliation (Comey and Letitia James). He hasn't gone after more coz, in stark contrast to himself, there ain't much there that will stick (refer to his attempts on Comey and Letitia James), along with Biden seeing the writing on the wall and pre-emptiveley pardoning a heap of them.

Democrats tried multiple times to prosecute Trump prior to the 2024 election and failed to impact his popularity.

You say that like the prosecutions were done only to impact his popularity or were purely political in nature

Bloke committed some of the most obvious crimes you're ever likely to see, some even on tape lol. Completely unprecedented by an outgoing POTUS. Their **** up was not getting started a lot sooner, his actions after the 2020 vote should reasonably have seen him never let within cooee of an election ever again.

They were very happy to weaponise the system against him(including impeachments in 2019 & 2021) but were terrified when they thought it would happen to them.

Both impeachments were more than justified, and if you somehow think Democrats weaponised the DoJ to a greater degree than Trump has in his 2nd term, again, I'm just not sure what to tell you. You're in orbit

 

[bzparkes]

Where's that dude who exposed himself as clueless by trying to act like China wouldn't care about sovereignty?

EDIT: Oh he changed his username and his account is suspended? Classic.



Well, here's another response for you;

China’s top diplomat had condemned Donald Trump’s attack on Venezuela, saying no nation should “play the role of world policeman”.

Addressing the unfolding situation in Venezuela, Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi said: “We never believe that any country can play the role of world policeman, nor do we agree that any country can claim itself to be an international judge.”

He added that the sovereignty and security of all countries should be fully protected by international law.

“China always opposes the use or threat of force, as well as any imposition of one country’s will on another.”

Hypocritical talk from China.

Surely you're not this clueless to think that China respects the sovereignty of other nations considering the belt & road project and their continuous encroachment into the South China sea, as well as illegally fishing in other countries' waters?

Plus all the resources they've taken over in Africa.

 

[Geelong_Sicko]

Aaron Rupar (@atrupar.com)

Trump: "We need Greenland from a national security situation. It's so strategic. Right now, Greenland is covered with Russian and Chinese ships all over the place. We need Greenland from the standpoint of national security. And Denmark is not gonna be able to do it ... the EU needs us to have it"

bsky.app

So disappointing from a FIFA peace prize winner.

Someone needs to red-card Donald Trump's United States and Benjamin Netanyahu's Israel. But who????

The world needs a hero.

 

[bourbons]

Yeah but it was good when he did it.

I mean... yeah kinda?

Adherence to existing law and no masked-up goon squads abducting people off the street, just to provide 2 pertinent differences lol

 

[faible]

Forgot about the bombing of Iran's nuclear sites already?

He bombed Iran because the President of Honduras?

 

[RUNVS]

Plan for what? At this stage, Europe is basically a vassal state of the USA.

Without USA's intervention with weapons in Ukraine, it likely would've fallen and Putin would be eyeing off the rest of the Balkans, if not the rest of Europe itself.

They can't defeat the US militarily that is for sure, but economic sanctions are surely something that can be on the table. Sell all US currency, restrict access to chip manufacturing technology, ban US citizens from entering the EU or UK and cancel all US military equipment contracts.

 

[RUNVS]

Someone needs to red-card Donald Trump's United States and Benjamin Netanyahu's Israel. But who????

The world needs a hero.

I say we arm Greta Thunberg and Malala Yousafzai with long range missiles.

 

[bzparkes]

They can't defeat the US militarily that is for sure, but economic sanctions are surely something that can be on the table. Sell all US currency, restrict access to chip manufacturing technology, ban US citizens from entering the EU or UK and cancel all US military equipment contracts.

That only harms Europe, not the USA.

Consider the lack of defence spending Europe had in regards to their NATO agreement, for instance.

Then there's us. The only thing that prevents us from being politically bullied(more than we currently are)/potentially invaded by China is the USA and their alliance with us, as well as their presence in the Philippines.

yes it's unpalatable to be beholden to a foreign government for our protection but since the Brits lost their spot as a global superpower after WW2, we have to rely on the USA to fill that void.

 

[bourbons]

If anyone is interested in what MCM's plan is (if she is ever in power) this gives an idea.

Basically a mass privatization of Venezuelas assets seeking foreign investment to power growth in exchange for a share in the wealth.

Interesting that she has apparently been sidelined so far. My guess is that Trump wants the privatization but not the pesky return to the rule of law. He wants his cronies and family to be the ones who reap the benefits.

María Corina Machado’s Trillion Dollar Plan for Venezuela’s Economic Transformation

The opposition leader and her economic advisors unveiled their proposal for reviving the country’s productive potential alongside a democratic transition.

www.as-coa.org

Yep.

You can be sure whoever is installed there will be a Trump puppet through and through.