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[Chucky_23]

There will be a lot of options for travel. Theres the QUT and RBWH busway stations. Many will walk to Roma Street, the valley, and Ekka station (via more bars and restaurants). QUT has about 800 parking spaces under the sports field and with ability to add floors and parking capacity

 

[Section 5]

Lots of greenspace remaining in the park when using this image angle.
I went with this orientation to fit into the image. Could be a different orientation.

I erased the driving range platform.
Also, erased some of the trees. They were in that lighter washed out area




Original image

 

[The Flying Belgian]

First teaser of where the much vaunted walkable corridors are going to be. I have the feeling announcements for all sorts of things are going to start coming thick and fast over the next few months.

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Obviously by the same graphic artist, and yeah, it's an artist rendition and not actual plans, but this image suggest the possibility of a balancing of any lost green space on the site of the Gabba post-Olympics. Would be an good outcome.

 

[Perrip]

Obviously by the same graphic artist, and yeah, it's an artist rendition and not actual plans, but this image suggest the possibility of a balancing of green space on the site of the Gabba posyt-Olympics. Would be an amazing outcome.

Will ultimately depend on the designs they go with for both sites, either by the same firms or seperate. But a good mixed use site with different uses will be good for that site rather than solely high density housing.
We should find out the design for that later this year too.

 

[weevil]

Obviously by the same graphic artist, and yeah, it's an artist rendition and not actual plans, but this image suggest the possibility of a balancing of any lost green space on the site of the Gabba post-Olympics. Would be an good outcome.

I think green prioritised pedestrian and cycling corridors along Gregory Terrace will be really fantastic. Similarly, a pedestrian/bike bridge linking the VP to Suncorp will massively open up those areas to foot traffic.

But that bit of Stanley Street in your picture from the CRR station to Southbank is interesting. It all works perfectly except for the bit in the bottom left corner where People have to cross Annerley Rd, only to then have to cross Stanly. That is never going to be pedestrian friendly, unless it becomes massively car unfriendly.

 

[dlanod]

Lots of greenspace remaining in the park when using this image angle.
I went with this orientation to fit into the image. Could be a different orientation.

I erased the driving range platform.
Also, erased some of the trees. They were in that lighter washed out area


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Original image

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I think this angled view is probably the most useful perspective I've seen as someone who's exposure to Victoria Park is driving past it on the ICB over the years.

 

[MSB ROYS]

There will be a lot of options for travel. Theres the QUT and RBWH busway stations. Many will walk to Roma Street, the valley, and Ekka station (via more bars and restaurants). QUT has about 800 parking spaces under the sports field and with ability to add floors and parking capacity

I am lucky because I can walk home via the valley. A good incentive to keep fit as I get older! Also, hopefully the Valley area can be re-generated as it's dirtier than I have seen it since moving to area in the 1990s.

 

[weevil]

Lots of greenspace remaining in the park when using this image angle.
I went with this orientation to fit into the image. Could be a different orientation.
I erased the driving range platform.
Also, erased some of the trees. They were in that lighter washed out area


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Optus is about 300 x 250 meters, so based on that, I think it would be more around this size.

 

[Section 5]

Optus is about 300 x 250 meters, so based on that, I think it would be more around this size.

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Possibly
They may only need the first lot of trees not the 2nd lower ones you have included on your oval outline
Possibly some other trees needed on left border of your red oval too
Just a bit of guess work from both of us. Hard without having a proper computer model to run different situations.
It will be a tight fit to not include those 2nd row of trees. Half of those trees either side of the gully are on higher ground

The image i copied is an angle image most likely a special lens used from a drone.
So, the foreground appears bigger with the background appearing smaller.

The google maps measurement below is a better guide on distances. But only a guide.

Someone with better skills than me like The Flying Belgian may be able to use the Optus Stadium footprint measurements and see how that looks on Google maps

 

[The Flying Belgian]

Someone with better skills than me like The Flying Belgian may be able to use the Optus Stadium footprint measurements and see how that looks on Google maps

A little crude, but based off the same dimensions as Perth Stadium (~300x250x42m)



A couple of alternative positions...



I think the first matches up better with the images released the other week (if you want to put much stock in them).

However I think the third makes more sense.

 

[The Flying Belgian]

By the way, if you want a visual that demonstrates the claim that Victoria Park is the "lungs of the city", I'll leave this without comment - it shows the Qld Govt's Canopy Height data.

 

[Billy ray]

smokers lung

 

[Section 5]

I wholly agree about his walk from the CBD (much more grueling) it is not really an option unless you are his age or younger. It is a very hilly walk from the CBD.

He choose the longer route (more lights) to VP. Should have gone under Bowen Bridge Road via the cycle/pedistrian path.

The best route is going under the station platform and via Gregory Terrace (blue). Only one traffic light to go through.

There is also plenty of land to build a pedestrian walkway (orange arrow) going under Bowen bridge Road between the Old Museum and the rail line. Similar to what they did on the side he took. Would be pretty cheap to do. Well cheap in comparison to other things

 

[SizeMatters]

Does anyone know or have a vibe how much land would be taken up by the whole stadium footprint? Ie. stadium, amenities, footpaths, or whatever else they gotta put outside of it. You reckon about half a stadium surface areas again on top of the stadium? I suspect they’d have what the Suns have with out of stadium facilities like resting/play spaces, shops/bars, lavatories.

 

[Perrip]

Does anyone know or have a vibe how much land would be taken up by the whole stadium footprint? Ie. stadium, amenities, footpaths, or whatever else they gotta put outside of it. You reckon about half a stadium surface areas again on top of the stadium? I suspect they’d have what the Suns have with out of stadium facilities like resting/play spaces, shops/bars, lavatories.

Won't really know until we see either the stadium design and location or the new Arup masterplan. This is what GIICA said in their report though:

The Main Stadium design will prioritise the preservation of existing public parkland, with approximately 68% (47.02 hectares) of the total area of the park retained as green space.The stadium structure itself is less than 10% of the park area. Additional space will be prioritised for legacy community sporting fields, supporting ongoing recreationalopportunities and representing an enhancement to existing facilities for users and thecommunity.

 

[The Flying Belgian]

Does anyone know or have a vibe how much land would be taken up by the whole stadium footprint? Ie. stadium, amenities, footpaths, or whatever else they gotta put outside of it. You reckon about half a stadium surface areas again on top of the stadium? I suspect they’d have what the Suns have with out of stadium facilities like resting/play spaces, shops/bars, lavatories.

What I included above is the dimensions of the roof in Perth. That includes the interior concourses. Exterior to that there's a few plaza entry & activation areas and some exterior pathways around the outside of the structure ranging between 5-15m in width. Then there's a couple of cafes & restaurants tacked onto the side.

I imagine it would something similar.

 

[weevil]

I wholly agree about his walk from the CBD (much more grueling) it is not really an option unless you are his age or younger. It is a very hilly walk from the CBD.

He choose the longer route (more lights) to VP. Should have gone under Bowen Bridge Road via the cycle/pedistrian path.

The best route is going under the station platform and via Gregory Terrace (blue). Only one traffic light to go through.

There is also plenty of land to build a pedestrian walkway (orange arrow) going under Bowen bridge Road between the Old Museum and the rail line. Similar to what they did on the side he took. Would be pretty cheap to do. Well cheap in comparison to other things




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The CM guy on the podcast wanted a VP train station. I think they may not be bending over backwards to find the shortest ways. Especially as the QUT busway will obviously be modified to allow access from the park side.

 

[weevil]

Does anyone know or have a vibe how much land would be taken up by the whole stadium footprint? Ie. stadium, amenities, footpaths, or whatever else they gotta put outside of it. You reckon about half a stadium surface areas again on top of the stadium? I suspect they’d have what the Suns have with out of stadium facilities like resting/play spaces, shops/bars, lavatories.

The MCG and Adelaide Oval are pretty comparable as they are both in parks.

Neither looks to have much real impact outside of their concourses.

 

[Perrip]

The CM guy on the podcast wanted a VP train station. I think they may not be bending over backwards to find the shortest ways. Especially as the QUT busway will obviously be modified to allow access from the park side.

It'd be great to do both tbh. One of the main problems with Victoria Park at the moment is that it lacks good connections to the surrounding train stations. I don't know how they'll do it or what they'll propose, but it'd be good to create more streamlined walking routes to these stations from the Park to decrease walking times to and from the stadium.

 

[weevil]

It'd be great to do both tbh. One of the main problems with Victoria Park at the moment is that it lacks good connections to the surrounding train stations. I don't know how they'll do it or what they'll propose, but it'd be good to create more streamlined walking routes to these stations from the Park to decrease walking times to and from the stadium.

I think there is a spectrum of options. On the one hand, they may have some really clever solutions; on the other, they may have decided it’s all too cost-prohibitive, and they are just going to wear the criticism.

All we can do is wait and see where it lands.

 

[Section 5]

Seeing it is footy offseason i will have another go.
One poster mentioned the Optus footprint is 300 x 250 (edited from 300x200) so both these fall into that size or close to it.

Image 1 is basically over the golf driving range plus some more land.
Image 2 i think is close to the same orientation as The Gabba

If they are going to have an upper-level entry point, image 2 probably feeds more people into that area


Image 1



Image 2

 

[Dalions]

Seeing it is footy offseason i will have another go.
One poster mentioned the Optus footprint is 300 x 200 so both these fall into that size or close to it.

Image 1 is basically over the golf driving range plus some more land.
Image 2 i think is close to the same orientation as The Gabba

If they are going to have an upper-level entry point, image 2 probably feeds more people into that area


Image 1

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Image 2

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300x250 I thought

 

[Dalions]

I am sure I am very late on this and it may have been mentioned here before but I heard today that the Designers have been given leeway to go above the 63000 capacity for the stadium as long as the can keep to the budget of $3.8b.

 

[Perrip]

The current plan is a busway extension for the metro + buses to use. That project, which has long been planned by TMR but never built, would extend the eastern busway from Langlands Park station through Coorparoo along Old Cleveland Road to Carindale & Capalaba. GIICA recommended it as a project that should happen before the games given the number of Olympic venues at the Sleeman Sports Complex

Would appear BCC, with state & federal funding, is planning to achieve this by expanding metro to various places including Cabalpa before the Olympics. Brisbane Metro expansion progressing as future Capalaba link is examined
They're currently doing a rapid business case for it.

Councillor Steve Toomey:
Our vision has always been to expand Metro and build an even more reliable, connected mass transit network for our city.
Today, we invited leaders from across the transport industry to express their interest in contributing to the business case for this next phase of growth.
Together, we’re working to deliver more travel choices, better connections between key precincts, and high-frequency, high-capacity services to the north, south, east and the airport.
This is about shaping the future of transport and ensuring our network meets the needs of a growing city, now and into the future.

 

[Section 5]

300x250 I thought

Thanks have adjusted