Unsolved The Family Murders * BREAKING! Von Einem is dead

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The Who's Who List

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VICTIMS
AB - Alan Barnes 16yo
NM - Neil Muir 25yo
PS - Peter Stogneff 14yo
ML - Mark Langley 18yo
RK- Richard Kelvin 15yo

• DS - Derrance Stevenson high risk lifestyle pornographer and criminal lawyer shot to death
• DS - David Szach convicted for the murder of criminal lawyer Derrence Stevenson

DECEASED
DSD - Denis St Denis hairdresser
RBD - Richard Dutton Brown the magistrate
PF - Pru Firman
SN - Sarah Novak
BG - Brian Gant
NB - Noel Brook also known as Di Di
TP - Trevor Peters of the diaries
PM - Dr. Peter Leslie Millhouse acquitted for the murder of Neil Muir
GG - Gino Gambardella chiropractor fled to Italy
JL - Jacquie the nurse mentioned in the ebook as a good friend of and who rented a unit close to BVEs unit we assume name suppressed? Reportedly deceased.

LIVING until further notice
BVE - Bevan von Einem also known as 'Bevbang' to inner circle and 'Vonnie' in the prison system
Mr R - The businessman name suppressed
SGW - Dr Stephen George Woodards
Mr. B - Teenage prostitute and informant name suppressed

LT - Lewis Turtur also known as 'Louie'
A - The older teenage boy Peter Stogneff's parents feel may have had something to do with their son's abduction
RR - Raymond Rozankowski who was a friend of BVE and lived in the same street as A

DK - Darko Kastellan assistant to Gambardella

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The Cases of Forensic Pathologist Colin Manock

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[InstinctivelyAlert]

I do appreciate you sharing your thoughts about this, but that pathologist wasn’t surrounded by people in constant emergency situations. Can you imagine a person is rushed to hospital with an arterial bleed for example, and the doctor goes “ah yes, I’m qualified to fix this” and then doesn’t have the slightest clue what he’s doing? Can you imagine that happening virtually every time a patient is brought into the emergency room?
There’s just no way of pretending you hold those qualifications in this particular field.

Also worth noting from personal experiences with emergency departments, there have been instances I’ve encountered with staff in these areas that arguably are not suitable for the role.

I do appreciate the point you’re making. I just wanted to add for context for anybody jumping in at this point it was worth adding that potentially certifications weren’t of the highest order of concern at the time.

 

[Milli ene]

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I couldn't agree more!

 

[Zebo]

Hoping to get some thoughts on this.
When spoken to by police, SW stated along the lines of ‘I don’t have the skills to conduct such an operation’ in regard to Mark Langley. But he was a doctor working in the accident & emergency department at the Lyell McEwin Hospital.
To work as a doctor in that section of the hospital, he’d have to be pretty competent in his field. More so than the average doctor or GP would. In fact, wouldn’t the skills to conduct life saving measures of this nature be a requirement?
So was he just taken at his word? Believed without taking a closer look?
That seems really odd to me.

An A&E doctor in a major hospital does not do surgery. Surgeons do surgery.

 

[Angus Young]

This thread must be the greatest thread/resource on the internet about Bevan and the Family murders.

 

[ClarityInChaos]

An A&E doctor in a major hospital does not do surgery. Surgeons do surgery.

You’re absolutely right. Though if it were a surgeon operating on Mark, he’d likely have survived. An A&E doctor would be required to know how to perform sutures to the skill level that was done to Mark. An A&E doctor would also know how to do a temporary fix in most things, as it would often be needed while waiting on a surgeon.
Does anyone know if the internal surgery was done to a high level? As I was sure they’d only ever spoken about the exterior aspects of it to the public (other than to say a section had been removed) I don’t know that they even made it clear that surgery was performed to then repair the internal organ, or not.

 

[ClarityInChaos]

Do you know if they searched the home he owned at the time of Mark's (and Neil's and Peter's) murder?

I highly doubt it. As far as I’m aware, SW wasn’t a suspect until after BVE was arrested for RK’s murder.

 

[nothing001]

I highly doubt it. As far as I’m aware, SW wasn’t a suspect until after BVE was arrested for RK’s murder.

Have you ever tried to contact the business man to find out what he knows about anything? I heard he still works in his shop that he has always owned.

 

[InstinctivelyAlert]

Have you ever tried to contact the business man to find out what he knows about anything? I heard he still works in his shop that he has always owned.

Clearly I won’t speak for CiC, but DR is not a big talker, and is very litigious.

 

[susurrar]

thats what i always thought. but then he was just chinwagging with some random in that recording a few pages back. crazy to hear. it made me wonder how many people have actually tried talking to him.

 

[InstinctivelyAlert]

thats what i always thought. but then he was just chinwagging with some random in that recording a few pages back. crazy to hear. it made me wonder how many people have actually tried talking to him.

From personal experience, he isn’t a big talker. He doesn’t take lightly to digging or leading questions.

The recording with the whistleblower are…interesting, and still to see the light of day entirely.

 

[Keesbo]

Lewis Turtur pis probably the only one that has ever said something publicly.

For those who didn't see it earlier.

The 92 murder and 14 years later the other killing, are these cases public knowledge at all? What/who is she talking about?

 

[nothing001]

From personal experience, he isn’t a big talker. He doesn’t take lightly to digging or leading questions.

The recording with the whistleblower are…interesting, and still to see the light of day entirely.

That is interesting to know. Have you spoken to him before? In what regards did you speak to him? Did you just walk into his shop?

 

[squawk]

Adelaide lawyer accused of child sex offences appears in court

An Adelaide lawyer has faced court over alleged child sex offences.

Charlie Dadds



An Adelaide lawyer has left court after appearing in relation to allegations of child sex offences.



The man appeared in the Adelaide Magistrates Court on Wednesday in front of Magistrate Melanie Burton following his November arrest.



As he left court accompanied by his defence counsel, the man offered no comment to waiting media.



He was quickly ushered into a waiting vehicle, which then immediately drove off.



On Wednesday, Ms Burton remanded the man – who was represented by top Adelaide defence lawyer David Edwardson KC – on continuing bail to return to court in May.



He is yet to enter any pleas to his charges.



https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/true...t/news-story/79dac351a7fa96a4635abe3f3520ae47

 

[InstinctivelyAlert]

That is interesting to know. Have you spoken to him before? In what regards did you speak to him? Did you just walk into his shop?

Got curious after researching. Stopped in to his shop. Tried to get him talking. Short, sharp, mean. Didn’t get anything from him other than his very clear instruction to not come back.

 

[nothing001]

Got curious after researching. Stopped in to his shop. Tried to get him talking. Short, sharp, mean. Didn’t get anything from him other than his very clear instruction to not come back.

Strange that he talks to some people. Are you male or female? I think that would make a difference, considering how rude he was to Debi Marshall.

 

[InstinctivelyAlert]

Strange that he talks to some people. Are you male or female? I think that would make a difference, considering how rude he was to Debi Marshall.

I’m also not in the media and don’t hold a public profile, which I would assume to make more of a difference.

 

[johnymac1]

Re Veal Gardens recent attack
CinC was asking about active Beats on her TikTok Platform.
Pretty sure there is an partial list of meeting places on Craigslist.

I've referred to it when researching Deiter Pfennig. Following up his possible hang outs.

 

[Zebo]

You’re absolutely right. Though if it were a surgeon operating on Mark, he’d likely have survived.

He wouldn't have. He was already deceased.

 

[Anonjym]

I am either having a mental blank or missing a name when reading this from 1987? RDB was still a part of the judicial system then was he not?

 

[squawk]

I am either having a mental blank or missing a name when reading this from 1987? RDB was still a part of the judicial system then was he not?

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Yes he was - I appeared before him (on behalf of my employer) in the early 2000s.

 

[Anonjym]

Yes he was - I appeared before him (on behalf of my employer) in the early 2000s.

Who is she referring to then?

 

[Anonjym]

Hoping to get some thoughts on this.
When spoken to by police, SW stated along the lines of ‘I don’t have the skills to conduct such an operation’ in regard to Mark Langley. But he was a doctor working in the accident & emergency department at the Lyell McEwin Hospital.
To work as a doctor in that section of the hospital, he’d have to be pretty competent in his field. More so than the average doctor or GP would. In fact, wouldn’t the skills to conduct life saving measures of this nature be a requirement?
So was he just taken at his word? Believed without taking a closer look?
That seems really odd to me.

I don’t want this to come across as repeatedly questioning you, but did this nurse ever provide anything to confirm she is who she says she is, or that she actually worked at the Lyell? I’m not dismissing the theory, but given the era, it wouldn’t be difficult for someone to approach you with claims that can’t be easily verified.
I raise this because I know at least one person named in this thread currently follows your TikTok account, and if they went to that extent, it’s possible they might also embellish or fabricate stories to see what gains traction.
Just my thoughts.

 

[Wooden Robot]

The 92 murder and 14 years later the other killing, are these cases public knowledge at all? What/who is she talking about?

Her boyfriend was murdered in '92 by Stephen Standage, who went on to kill another man John Thorn in 2006.
All very public.

 

[ClarityInChaos]

I don’t want this to come across as repeatedly questioning you, but did this nurse ever provide anything to confirm she is who she says she is, or that she actually worked at the Lyell? I’m not dismissing the theory, but given the era, it wouldn’t be difficult for someone to approach you with claims that can’t be easily verified.
I raise this because I know at least one person named in this thread currently follows your TikTok account, and if they went to that extent, it’s possible they might also embellish or fabricate stories to see what gains traction.
Just my thoughts.

I really appreciate your comment.
Every piece of information I’m given gets verified thoroughly, not only by myself, but by others too.
The nurse I’ve spoken with that the information comes from has provided more than enough details to prove that she worked with him there

 

[squawk]

Who is she referring to then?

Good question. Technically (it’s my understanding) that as a Magistrate RDB is/was not a member of the judiciary. That’s for Judges of the Distict Court and above.
You may have to ask John Barnes, although he has referenced various names previously in this thread.