List Mgmt. 2026 Trade/Contract Discussion

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Spoiler: Contracted to 2029 (4)

• Liam Baker

3

Liam Baker

Age

28

Ht

173cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.7

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.9

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

3star

CL

0.5

3star

D

14.4

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

CL

1.2

4star

(27/1/98)
• Jake Waterman

2

Jake Waterman

Age

27

Ht

192cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.2

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

9.8

2star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.0

1star

M

5.8

5star

T

0.3

1star

G

1.5

5star

D

12.2

3star

K

7.6

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.8

4star

(6/5/98)
• Brandon Starcevich

4

Brandon Starcevich

Age

26

Ht

188cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.2

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.0

4star

MG

185.3

3star

D

9.5

2star

K

7.3

3star

HB

2.3

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.1

3star

MG

187.9

3star

D

8.6

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.2

3star

M

1.4

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

181.2

3star

(24/7/99)
• Jack Hutchinson (10/11/01)

Spoiler: Contracted to 2028 (12)

• Liam Duggan

14

Liam Duggan

Age

29

Ht

186cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.4

4star

K

10.1

4star

HB

5.3

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.1

4star

MG

283.7

4star

D

16.0

4star

K

12.0

5star

HB

4.0

3star

M

5.7

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

283.7

4star

D

13.2

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.2

3star

(11/12/96)
• Jack Graham

17

Jack Graham

Age

28

Ht

181cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.7

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

6.8

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

6.3

5star

CL

1.8

4star

D

11.8

3star

K

5.3

2star

HB

6.5

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

4.2

5star

CL

1.2

4star

D

14.0

4star

K

6.0

3star

HB

8.0

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

7.0

5star

CL

3.2

5star

(25/2/98)
• Tylar Young (5/9/98)
• Tom McCarthy (12/7/00)
• Brady Hough (5/3/03)
• Tyrell Dewar (27/3/04)
• Harley Reid (17/4/05)
• Bo Allan (16/02/06)
• Jobe Shanahan (2/8/06)
• Josh Lindsay (7/4/07)
• Willem Duursma (21/6/07)
• Cooper Duff-Tytler (22/8/07)

Spoiler: Contracted to 2027 (14)

• Elliot Yeo

6

Elliot Yeo

Age

32

Ht

191cm

Wt

91kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.5

5star

K

11.7

4star

HB

7.8

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

4.5

5star

CL

3.0

4star

D

18.9

4star

K

10.9

4star

HB

8.0

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

5.8

5star

CL

5.5

5star

D

16.6

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

7.2

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

0.6

3star

CL

1.4

4star

(1/10/93)
• Tim Kelly

11

Tim Kelly

Age

31

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.6

5star

K

13.5

5star

HB

10.1

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

4.0

5star

CL

4.9

5star

D

19.9

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

7.6

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

4.7

5star

CL

3.6

4star

D

21.6

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

11.2

5star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

3.8

5star

(26/7/94)
• Matt Owies (19/3/97)
• Harry Edwards (1/10/00)
• Deven Robertson

40

Deven Robertson

Age

24

Ht

185cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.0

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

4.0

3star

M

0.0

1star

T

3.0

5star

CL

0.0

1star

D

7.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

4.0

3star

M

0.0

1star

T

3.0

4star

CL

0.0

1star

D

7.0

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

4.0

3star

M

0.0

1star

T

3.0

5star

CL

0.0

1star

(30/6/01)
• Finn Macrae (13/3/02)
• Sandy Brock (14/12/02)
• Reuben Ginbey (10/9/04)
• Archer Reid (19/9/05)
• Hamish Davis (2/5/06)
• Tom Gross (15/9/06)
• Lucca Grego (15/9/06)
• Sam Allen (13/1/07)
• Tylah Williams (22/2/07)

Spoiler: Contracted to 2026 (19)

• Jamie Cripps

15

Jamie Cripps

Age

33

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.7

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

4.8

3star

M

3.6

4star

T

3.9

5star

G

1.3

5star

D

10.3

3star

K

6.3

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.4

3star

G

0.4

3star

D

6.4

2star

K

4.2

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

1.0

1star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.4

5star

(23/4/92)
• Tom Cole

28

Tom Cole

Age

28

Ht

188cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.9

3star

K

7.0

3star

HB

5.0

4star

M

3.7

4star

T

2.7

4star

MG

110.3

2star

D

10.5

3star

K

6.3

3star

HB

4.3

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.5

3star

MG

110.3

2star

D

9.8

3star

K

5.6

3star

HB

4.2

4star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.8

4star

(28/5/97)
• Matt Flynn (13/9/97)
• Bailey Williams (17/4/00)
• Milan Murdock (30/6/00)
• Harry Schoenberg (21/2/01)
• Tyler Brockman (22/11/02)
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03)
• Jack Williams (1/12/03)
• Harry Barnett (22/1/04)
• Elijah Hewett (27/5/04)
• Noah Long (23/8/04)
• Ryan Maric (6/9/04)
• Clay Hall (12/5/05)
• Harvey Johnston (18/8/05)
• Jake Miles-Wrency (??/??/05)
• Jacob Newton (20/3/06)
• Malakai Champion (17/5/06)
• Fred Rodriguez (10/7/07)

 

[Elite Pete]

Shanahan, CDT, Waterman, Archer, Walters and Georgiades at least eliminates the need for small forwards

Haha.

How quick can CDT be a number 1 ruck?

Shanahan down back becomes more likely.

Archer Reid for Axel Walsh….

 

[WCE777]

I was only joking about a 4peat, I meant to say 5peat

I am not, make it happen WC

 

[Obeanie1]

The Walter rumours make even more sense if Tassie are genuinely circling Archer Reid.

There's a chance come the end of the season that Archer has a higher trade value.

Correct.

Lets not pretend Tassie wont come at our promising kids.

May just end up Archer out, Walters in.

Hopefully its the Williams and Maric quality we lose.

 

[Obeanie1]

I don’t think so. We will have so much cap to burn in 2028 and 2029 from two years of going under the cap plus front loading contracts in 2025 and 2026. Can’t see a way Swans match 3M + 2M + 1 + 1 + 1 over 5 years for example.

Port will match a band 2 offer I agree, and in the event of that I’d leave that discussion there. MG not a huge priority.

Rivers is an interesting one. I’d offer band 2 if he can show he can play midfield week in week out this year. Would Melbourne accept pick 19 which probably comes into 16 or so for him? Not sure.

How much will it cost retaining these young guns in 2029 onwards?

And bringing in others?

 

[Sammy J]

Need to be a lot cleaner. Thumbled everything last year

Playing him in the middle didn't help. He's not a midfielders arseh*le. Get him up forward and make him a pressure guy / goal kicker and I think he'll do better.

 

[Obeanie1]

hates us it will never happen

Who?

 

[txbyhull]

Can you just name one thing that Rivers does that is above average?

significantly better ball use off half than any of our back half minus McCarthy and Lindsay, Maric if we’re including him

 

[Jeremy McLovin]

significantly better ball use off half than any of our back half minus McCarthy and Lindsay, Maric if we’re including him

Better ball user than our half backs if we exclude three of our half backs isn't exactly a shining endorsement.

 

[txbyhull]

Better ball user than our half backs if we exclude three of our half backs isn't exactly a shining endorsement.

I’d pick him over both if I had to choose today? It’s not hard.

McCarthy is great but has had less than 15 games and 1 pre season, might still end up as a full time mid eventually. Lindsay is 18 and has played 2 games.

When we have guys like Maric, Baker, Duggan, etc. playing in our backline it’s a ****ing layup to improve on that front.

 

[eaglevision]

How much will it cost retaining these young guns in 2029 onwards?

And bringing in others?

*If our list management team aren’t total idiots, we’ll have the bulk of the big contracts paid by end 2029.

-extension for Harley with money brought forward into 2027/2028
-Ginbey, Hewett front load extensions
-get Duggan, Baker money paid in advance

 

[stallon]

I feel like this Georgiades talk hasn't come from nowhere, there must be something, and he is a free agent next year.
We would be silly to not be talking to him, hes very good and next year we are in the free agent/top up with players window.
Walter on the table too, but he would cost picks while Georgiades would not.

Shanahan seems more and more destined to be a CHB.

Georgiades Waterman Archer as the forward talls
Shanahan Ginbey Young as the defensive talls
CDT as the ruck

 

[bzparkes]

I feel like this Georgiades talk hasn't come from nowhere, there must be something, and he is a free agent next year.
We would be silly to not be talking to him, hes very good and next year we are in the free agent/top up with players window.
Walter on the table too, but he would cost picks while Georgiades would not.

Shanahan seems more and more destined to be a CHB.

Georgiades Waterman Archer as the forward talls
Shanahan Ginbey Young as the defensive talls
CDT as the ruck

The Georgiades talk just came from him being ooc next year and the radio jockeys saying they reckon he may want to finish his career in WA.

Oh and Port needing first rounders to match bids on Pilot and Salopek.

I don't think there's any more to it than that.

 

[Byron_Clanger]

Trade talk: Cornes "confident" Port star makes move out West

"I hope he stays but I’d be very confident he won’t be there in two years’ time."

www.sen.com.au

God I hope we don't do this. We are stocked for key forwards and we don't need to be parting with first rounders for ANOTHER one

 

[Byron_Clanger]

*If our list management team aren’t total idiots, we’ll have the bulk of the big contracts paid by end 2029.

-extension for Harley with money brought forward into 2027/2028
-Ginbey, Hewett front load extensions
-get Duggan, Baker money paid in advance

Giving Bailey Williams that 'top 10% paid at the club' tag in the final year of his contract which triggers his free agency is probably one of the shrewdest things I've seen the club do in a very long time.

 

[bzparkes]

Trade talk: Cornes "confident" Port star makes move out West

"I hope he stays but I’d be very confident he won’t be there in two years’ time."

www.sen.com.au

God I hope we don't do this. We are stocked for key forwards and we don't need to be parting with first rounders for ANOTHER one

Sounds more like Port are desperate to offload players for picks to prepare themselves for their club-tied prospects and before Tassie come in than we are for him.

We showed some interest before he re-signed last time, I very much doubt he's in the picture for us to part with high picks this time.

Simply not a need, especially this year.

 

[Byron_Clanger]

Ollie Wines? Patty Cripps?

F*ck I'm gonna have a spew.

Vol-Kaneo reckons Wines has more years in him than Tim Kelly

11

Tim Kelly

Age

31

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.6

5star

K

13.5

5star

HB

10.1

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

4.0

5star

CL

4.9

5star

D

19.9

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

7.6

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

4.7

5star

CL

3.6

4star

D

21.6

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

11.2

5star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

3.8

5star

...AND our first rounder for Cripps? Good f*cking grief. We should be draft focused this year with an eye to Warner next year.

 

[THE A5]

I rather Jobe as a key forward than forcing him to play defence so we can justify bringing in Georgiades.

 

[evans1863]

I feel like this Georgiades talk hasn't come from nowhere, there must be something, and he is a free agent next year.
We would be silly to not be talking to him, hes very good and next year we are in the free agent/top up with players window.
Walter on the table too, but he would cost picks while Georgiades would not.

Shanahan seems more and more destined to be a CHB.

Georgiades Waterman Archer as the forward talls
Shanahan Ginbey Young as the defensive talls
CDT as the ruck

Mini again referred to Jobe as a forward. Being able to swing back is great but he’s very much the future of our club as a KPF

 

[eaglevision]

I rather Jobe as a key forward than forcing him to play defence so we can justify bringing in Georgiades.

Yep band 2 offer next year, if matched then no worries.

 

[mattyc75]

I feel like this Georgiades talk hasn't come from nowhere, there must be something, and he is a free agent next year.
We would be silly to not be talking to him, hes very good and next year we are in the free agent/top up with players window.
Walter on the table too, but he would cost picks while Georgiades would not.

Shanahan seems more and more destined to be a CHB.

Georgiades Waterman Archer as the forward talls
Shanahan Ginbey Young as the defensive talls
CDT as the ruck

You'd think cornes would have his sources in PA

 

[mattyc75]

Im concerned that there's so much talk about us being linked to 2 KPFs..
Wouldve been better off stashing JUH for a season or 2 for free

 

[bzparkes]

Ollie Wines? Patty Cripps?

F*ck I'm gonna have a spew.

Vol-Kaneo reckons Wines has more years in him than Tim Kelly...AND our first rounder for Cripps? Good f*cking grief. We should be draft focused this year with an eye to Warner next year.

This is what happens when you have to fill up airtime talking about a club whose list you have NFI about other than Harley Reid.

 

[THE A5]

Mini again referred to Jobe as a forward. Being able to swing back is great but he’s very much the future of our club as a KPF

Yeo. Turning a bloke showing so much promise up forward into a defender is one of the stupidest things you can do. A good forward is worth more than a great defender. Gov is the only exception.

 

[Elite Pete]

This is what happens when you have to fill up airtime talking about a club whose list you have NFI about other than Harley Reid.

It’s also what normallly happens when a club potentially rises from the bottom. They have cash to spend and become more attractive for players.

A few of these names were thrown up last year. Cripps, Neale and Wines especially and all 3 of those circumstances have changed (2 clubs are now officially ‘rebuilding’ ‘transitioning’ and the other has well known personal reason)

Rivers dropped so easy to look at his home town and if they would be calling his manager.

Walter has been linked for a while now. While most fans could see how it would fit there has definitely been smoke.

Warner clearly has been a chase for a while now. Nothing new.

Georgiades is the new one and seems the one building momentum. Ports NGA and FS situation likely playing a part also the watered down FA compo also.

Just hope Cal is right and the plan is one more draft before we start trading those top end draft assets again.

 

[InsideBull]

Yeo. Turning a bloke showing so much promise up forward into a defender is one of the stupidest things you can do. A good forward is worth more than a great defender. Gov is the only exception.

Counterpoint... 4 of the last 5 premiership sides have had their main tall defender in the AA team (not 2024). Only one key forward has been All-Australian in his premiership year in that time (Hawkins 2022)

I do tend to agree with you still, perhaps because truly good key forwards are harder to find and some of the best KPDs often start as mediocre KPFs. But I don't think we necessarily should look at Gov as an anomaly