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Liam Baker (27/1/98)
Jake Waterman (6/5/98)
Brandon Starcevich (24/7/99)
• Jack Hutchinson (10/11/01)
Liam Duggan (11/12/96)
Jack Graham (25/2/98)
• Tylar Young (5/9/98)
• Tom McCarthy (12/7/00)
• Brady Hough (5/3/03)
• Tyrell Dewar (27/3/04)
• Harley Reid (17/4/05)
• Bo Allan (16/02/06)
• Jobe Shanahan (2/8/06)
• Josh Lindsay (7/4/07)
• Willem Duursma (21/6/07)
• Cooper Duff-Tytler (22/8/07)
Elliot Yeo (1/10/93)
Tim Kelly (26/7/94)
• Matt Owies (19/3/97)
• Harry Edwards (1/10/00)
Deven Robertson (30/6/01)
• Finn Macrae (13/3/02)
• Sandy Brock (14/12/02)
• Reuben Ginbey (10/9/04)
• Archer Reid (19/9/05)
• Hamish Davis (2/5/06)
• Tom Gross (15/9/06)
• Lucca Grego (15/9/06)
• Sam Allen (13/1/07)
• Tylah Williams (22/2/07)
Jamie Cripps (23/4/92)
Tom Cole (28/5/97)
• Matt Flynn (13/9/97)
• Bailey Williams (17/4/00)
• Milan Murdock (30/6/00)
• Harry Schoenberg (21/2/01)
• Tyler Brockman (22/11/02)
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03)
• Jack Williams (1/12/03)
• Harry Barnett (22/1/04)
• Elijah Hewett (27/5/04)
• Noah Long (23/8/04)
• Ryan Maric (6/9/04)
• Clay Hall (12/5/05)
• Harvey Johnston (18/8/05)
• Jake Miles-Wrency (11/1/06)
• Jacob Newton (20/3/06)
• Malakai Champion (17/5/06)
• Fred Rodriguez (10/7/07)
 
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I wonder how gettable Charlie Ballard would be

Contracted to 2029, but he was dropped after round 6, after sitting out all of 2025 with an ACL.
Hes from SA but the Crows dont need him and Port without Butters is hardly appealing.
Hes 27 this year, so a good age, more of an interceptor/CHB than a full back.

Suns have Collins, Andrew and Adams currently in the side as KPDs

We could throw our hat in the ring, he was a pretty reliable pair with Collins before his ACL in 2025
 
I get where you're coming from but there is no incentive for bottom five teams to be trading first rounders
If we truly want Weitering and hes interested then we have to put real assets on the table, not random spare change 2nd rounders. Weitering is better than a couple of 2nd rounders

fwiw I dont want to pay for Weitering, but people were talking about him
 
I think we need to go for a St Kilda style swing for the fences in the offseason. The club cannot say we are oh so close and keep stacking up draft picks. We also cant keep absolute no hopers stay on the list just because they have cool haircuts

People saying we should target either Lachie Neale or Patrick Cripps when in reality it should be both Neale and Cripps. We should also be targetting the likes of Sam Berry and Draper or Hugh Davies to round it out Id like to see 4 faces in much like Flanders/TDK/Silvagni/Ryan that St Kilda got
 
I think we need to go for a St Kilda style swing for the fences in the offseason. The club cannot say we are oh so close and keep stacking up draft picks. We also cant keep absolute no hopers stay on the list just because they have cool haircuts

People saying we should target either Lachie Neale or Patrick Cripps when in reality it should be both Neale and Cripps. We should also be targetting the likes of Sam Berry and Draper or Hugh Davies to round it out Id like to see 4 faces in much like Flanders/TDK/Silvagni/Ryan that St Kilda got
There is no real smoke at all for Neale to come to the Eagles which is very strange. Plenty everywhere else and it might be a great management ploy.

What contract would you offer him? 3 years they were saying on SEN today would likely be the years to move? $1m a year front ended? Would that get him to want to come.

All the talk is we are doing our ‘St Kilda’ off season at the end of next season. Warner, Rivers and MG. A long way to wait with those players who might not even commit then.

what ever way we go this year with mature age players, they would want to hit and not pay overs in trade assets but we need to find these plug and play players like the Hawks did a few years go with Mass, Ginni, Gunstan, Meek, Chol
 

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I think we need to go for a St Kilda style swing for the fences in the offseason. The club cannot say we are oh so close and keep stacking up draft picks. We also cant keep absolute no hopers stay on the list just because they have cool haircuts

People saying we should target either Lachie Neale or Patrick Cripps when in reality it should be both Neale and Cripps. We should also be targetting the likes of Sam Berry and Draper or Hugh Davies to round it out Id like to see 4 faces in much like Flanders/TDK/Silvagni/Ryan that St Kilda got
Nah, not both Cripps and Neale, especially if Yeo and/or Kelly are still on the list(which is very likely)

Want Dev, Harley and Duursma in the middle as a minimum. Graham at this stage needs to be around it as we still need his defensive work.
Can fit Neale and 1 of Yeo/Kelly in the middle and thats a full midfield.
Any injuries the likes of Hewett/Gross/our 2026 1st rounder/whoever gets a chance at a few rotations into the middle.

If we want to swing then its gotta be for a KPD and/or a ruckman, and it has to leave us with our first pick(which also allows us a free 2nd rounder to grab a KPD), can trade everything else to solve those imo.

2027 is the big year, Warner/Georgiades/Rivers/whoever else is where we should be loading up for, a big 2028
 
Jacob Weitering is not the answer. His timeline doesn't fit at all.

Either pick up a close to retirement key defender as a stop gap for cheap, or get one that is mid 20's at the oldest that can be with the team through the contending years. Do not pay a premium for a late 20's key defender.
 
If we truly want Weitering and hes interested then we have to put real assets on the table, not random spare change 2nd rounders. Weitering is better than a couple of 2nd rounders

fwiw I dont want to pay for Weitering, but people were talking about him
He's also on a million plus a year so that might lower his value.

FWIW, I reckon he's probably worth around what we got for TB.
 
I think we need to go for a St Kilda style swing for the fences in the offseason. The club cannot say we are oh so close and keep stacking up draft picks. We also cant keep absolute no hopers stay on the list just because they have cool haircuts

People saying we should target either Lachie Neale or Patrick Cripps when in reality it should be both Neale and Cripps. We should also be targetting the likes of Sam Berry and Draper or Hugh Davies to round it out Id like to see 4 faces in much like Flanders/TDK/Silvagni/Ryan that St Kilda got
The new bottom 5 compensation pick scheme makes it hard for us to hard at the trade table, because our R1 will be tied to the R2 compo.

Go hard for free agents, definitely. But free agents are prised out of their clubs with inflated salaries relative to their ability. We're in WA and we suck, how much above their warranted salary would we have to offer a free agent* for them to pick us over another club?

*On the assumption we're discussing the A-grade free agents, not the next tier down free agents like Graham & Starcevich.
 
The new bottom 5 compensation pick scheme makes it hard for us to hard at the trade table, because our R1 will be tied to the R2 compo.

Go hard for free agents, definitely. But free agents are prised out of their clubs with inflated salaries relative to their ability. We're in WA and we suck, how much above their warranted salary would we have to offer a free agent* for them to pick us over another club?

*On the assumption we're discussing the A-grade free agents, not the next tier down free agents like Graham & Starcevich.
Oh I dont mean trade 2026 1st. I mean trade out of 2027 and plan to be good almost. Take the risk that by poaching a stack of players we can finish in the top 10 and eek our way past the Tasmania haul
 
Oh I dont mean trade 2026 1st. I mean trade out of 2027 and plan to be good almost. Take the risk that by poaching a stack of players we can finish in the top 10 and eek our way past the Tasmania haul
100% agree with your thoughts on trade out our assets in 2027 and pay overs for 3-4 players of need front ended.
There are several out there that would suit our team because all our talent is in the 23yo and unders.
Anybody 24 and over and experienced is a must.

We need midfield support big time as Yeo & Kelly are done and by end 2027 they are cooked.
Imagine that as we transition to our next midfield group, who do we have???

Graham has maybe 3 years & Dev has 5+ are the defensive rocks and will be around for a while so that core is there but coming up underneath we are very thin.
The Macrae/Shoenbergs won't be here, they aren't good enough.

There is a group that fit perfectly in order of needs:
L Neale/MID
J Butts/KPD

And then its down to list needs low cost:
Moyle/RUCK/24/OOC 2028
Walter/KPF/21/OOC 2026
A Davies/MID/24/OOC 2026
J Carroll/HB/WING/24/UFA
L Sholl/MID/26/UFA

Get 4 of these in 2026 and we are considerably better, probably need 5 IMO because our mid tier and age group is decimated.
If we get a ruck like Moyle A Reid then goes back as a KPD, he is more than capable.
 
Oh I dont mean trade 2026 1st. I mean trade out of 2027 and plan to be good almost. Take the risk that by poaching a stack of players we can finish in the top 10 and eek our way past the Tasmania haul
IMO Tasmania impact will be smaller than thought. Picks slide back an extra handful of places which is the norm anyway.
Pick 10 instead of 4 is how we roll more often than not.

Still gets a good player if we take best available rather than reach for a position & our list is actually decently balanced now so there should be no need for that.
 
Jacob Weitering is not the answer. His timeline doesn't fit at all.

Either pick up a close to retirement key defender as a stop gap for cheap, or get one that is mid 20's at the oldest that can be with the team through the contending years. Do not pay a premium for a late 20's key defender.
Exactly. Maybe if he was a couple of years older for cheap, or a couple of years younger so he’ll be around when we climb. Weitering is still rated amongst the top key backs in the league and at 29 would have plenty of VIC clubs going hard in contention. Or there’s always the cowards route up to Sydney to avoid the limelight. Wouldn’t even consider us.

Butts as a FA and Busslinger OOC as a developing tall back is the way to go.

Cripps and Neale might not be the perfect fit for what we need, but the perfect players aren’t willing and available to come to us right now. Both have high standards and have had huge individual honours, Neale team success too. While Carlton have not had team success, I would say that’s despite Cripps’ brilliance not because of it. We do lack leadership and these guys both have it.

If either or both wanted to join us the club would say yes, whether we like it or not. I think Cripps could be used smarter than he has been at Carlton, shorter bursts to throw his weight around and win clearances when the contest is hot, then take a rest when the game opens up. Doesn’t need to play full games and absolutely grind himself into the ground.

If they both came on two years deals, then 2029 they are gone and the young bloods take over, just like Mitchell and Priddis stepping aside at the end of 2017. To paraphrase Lecca ‘I think you campaigners know what happened next’…
 

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I sat and watched the slowest backline in our history play on the weekend. At one point we had Cole, Duggan and Baker all down there. None of them show and inkling to chase. None of them have the breakaway speed to escape a tackle. None of them Can stick a tackle. If it wasn't for ginbey we would have been looking at another 100 point loss.

What we need is speed in the backline, someone like a Nick Blakey or a Josh Weddle who is prepared to run and carry and who has the skills to do so. Lindsay and Ginbey are batting above their weight and aren't being supported by our so called experienced campaigners and leadership team. Hough seems to have regressed this year, not sure why. His averages have dropped significantl.

Once Starcevich (whenever that may be) and Edwards returns this may help turn the tide and allow Ginbey to run free more. We haven't seen the run and carry from McCarthy as much this year either as I think the opposition have worked hard to make him more accountable.
 
Honestly Clarke has been far too generous with our contacts. I know we’ve all said it to the death but to give Sandy Brock & Matt Owies each a three year contract is just mind-effing-boggling!
Harry Barnett on 2 was just criminal. Cost us Charlie Banfield in the end
 
I sat and watched the slowest backline in our history play on the weekend. At one point we had Cole, Duggan and Baker all down there. None of them show and inkling to chase. None of them have the breakaway speed to escape a tackle. None of them Can stick a tackle. If it wasn't for ginbey we would have been looking at another 100 point loss.

What we need is speed in the backline, someone like a Nick Blakey or a Josh Weddle who is prepared to run and carry and who has the skills to do so. Lindsay and Ginbey are batting above their weight and aren't being supported by our so called experienced campaigners and leadership team. Hough seems to have regressed this year, not sure why. His averages have dropped significantl.

Once Starcevich (whenever that may be) and Edwards returns this may help turn the tide and allow Ginbey to run free more. We haven't seen the run and carry from McCarthy as much this year either as I think the opposition have worked hard to make him more accountable.

Yeah, it’s pretty disappointing given how many half backs we have on our list that they didn’t pick or recruit a singular one who actually is a line breaking runner.
 
I sat and watched the slowest backline in our history play on the weekend. At one point we had Cole, Duggan and Baker all down there. None of them show and inkling to chase. None of them have the breakaway speed to escape a tackle. None of them Can stick a tackle. If it wasn't for ginbey we would have been looking at another 100 point loss.

What we need is speed in the backline, someone like a Nick Blakey or a Josh Weddle who is prepared to run and carry and who has the skills to do so. Lindsay and Ginbey are batting above their weight and aren't being supported by our so called experienced campaigners and leadership team. Hough seems to have regressed this year, not sure why. His averages have dropped significantl.

Once Starcevich (whenever that may be) and Edwards returns this may help turn the tide and allow Ginbey to run free more. We haven't seen the run and carry from McCarthy as much this year either as I think the opposition have worked hard to make him more accountable.
The only guy after TMac to have shown any dash from half back is Bo Allan who was conveniently dropped. But to be fair his influence had dropped off and he wasn’t getting enough of the ball in the last couple of weeks.

Ironically we ended up needing an extra tall back against the Tigs which would’ve slowed us down even more. If Ginbey didn’t have to be so damn accountable to cover for others then he could run and carry more as a third tall.

Maric can kick lasers to get the ball moving fast but he gets exposed in other areas.

Hough has been a bit down this year. It’s funny that he gets the medium/small forwards and Ginbey plays on the monsters when they are both 191cm. Treatment to Reuben’s strength and athleticism.
 
The only guy after TMac to have shown any dash from half back is Bo Allan who was conveniently dropped. But to be fair his influence had dropped off and he wasn’t getting enough of the ball in the last couple of weeks.

Ironically we ended up needing an extra tall back against the Tigs which would’ve slowed us down even more. If Ginbey didn’t have to be so damn accountable to cover for others then he could run and carry more as a third tall.

Maric can kick lasers to get the ball moving fast but he gets exposed in other areas.

Hough has been a bit down this year. It’s funny that he gets the medium/small forwards and Ginbey plays on the monsters when they are both 191cm. Treatment to Reuben’s strength and athleticism.
A contender for understatement of the year....
 

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I sat and watched the slowest backline in our history play on the weekend. At one point we had Cole, Duggan and Baker all down there. None of them show and inkling to chase. None of them have the breakaway speed to escape a tackle. None of them Can stick a tackle. If it wasn't for ginbey we would have been looking at another 100 point loss.

What we need is speed in the backline, someone like a Nick Blakey or a Josh Weddle who is prepared to run and carry and who has the skills to do so. Lindsay and Ginbey are batting above their weight and aren't being supported by our so called experienced campaigners and leadership team. Hough seems to have regressed this year, not sure why. His averages have dropped significantl.

Once Starcevich (whenever that may be) and Edwards returns this may help turn the tide and allow Ginbey to run free more. We haven't seen the run and carry from McCarthy as much this year either as I think the opposition have worked hard to make him more accountable.
Josh Weddle is a headless chook out there. Honestly burns more chances than Duggan & Bolton combined. Looks good, not effective at all especially when they put everyone else out of position.

The answer could be to deploy Reid off the back flank. Like McCarthy, he is better utilised in space rather than under a pack.
 
Josh Weddle is a headless chook out there. Honestly burns more chances than Duggan & Bolton combined. Looks good, not effective at all especially when they put everyone else out of position.

The answer could be to deploy Reid off the back flank. Like McCarthy, he is better utilised in space rather than under a pack.
Without Graham or Dev in the side I don’t think that’s even remotely feasible, and even with them in the side it’s waste of our best player. I think giving Hewett a half back role would do him a world of good right now
 
Josh Weddle is a headless chook out there. Honestly burns more chances than Duggan & Bolton combined. Looks good, not effective at all especially when they put everyone else out of position.

The answer could be to deploy Reid off the back flank. Like McCarthy, he is better utilised in space rather than under a pack.
You want to put our best mid/clearance player on the HBF.

Ok.......
 
He extended his initial two-year contract in his first year, then accepted a further one-year deal last year.

Signed a 2 year extension to the end of 2026 in mid 2024 which was his second year at the club

Giving a second year developing ruckman a 2 year deal during his second year isn’t unusual. Unfortunately, he simply hasn’t come on the way anybody would’ve hoped since then
 

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