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Review FIFTEEN POINTS!!! WE DID THE WEES AND POOS BY FIFTEEN FREAKING POINTS!!!

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emotionally, it sucks ****ing hard to watch a player get on a roll like gunston did in the first half, but do you think the hawks will set up like that again in the future? basically relying on a single player to be your source of goals. very rarely do you see teams set up like that in todays game right?

in the second half when they couldnt get it past the wing, i reckon in large part thats because one of their fwds is basically non existent until they get it i50 and they didnt otherwise have a contest winner.

clearly a good tactical battle with ebbs and flows though!
Honeslty, I'm not knowledgeable or astute enough to know how we stopped it outside it looked to me like it was mainly the midfield being more accountable and dominant so they couldnt move it as easily. It's what makes me concerned for any rematch if Day is back.

It did feel like a game of chess out there so I'd kill for a deep dive from someone who knows what they are talking about
 
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Honeslty, I'm not knowledge or astute enough to know how we stopped it outside it looked to me like it was mainly the midfield being more accountable and dominant so they couldnt move it as easily. It's what makes me concerned for any rematch if Day is back.

It did feel like a game of chess out there so I'd kill for a deep dive from someone who knows what they are talking about
eh maybe, but what if we had Sturt back 🤔

but yeah theres that many factors you have to consider, very tricky to pick out what exactly happened from the tele
 
Forget JLo, I think the real guy a few people owe an apology to is Adam Beard.

I think we can put to bed all those pronunciations of doom about how we'd be too unfit to run out games just because of a few snippets in preseason of us focusing on increasing power in the weights room.

We look ridiculously fit and firing at the end of games. Kudos to our S&C.
The decision making at the highest levels in the club is elite.
 

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Honeslty, I'm not knowledgeable or astute enough to know how we stopped it outside it looked to me like it was mainly the midfield being more accountable and dominant so they couldnt move it as easily. It's what makes me concerned for any rematch if Day is back.

It did feel like a game of chess out there so I'd kill for a deep dive from someone who knows what they are talking about
Besides dominating the midfield it looked like Moore ginivan and McDonald had no impact at all and they are huge in going forward. So credit to Chappy Clark and worner there. I think the most important player we have to learn how to stop is Amon with impey a close second the drive they have from behind the ball is insane
 
Honeslty, I'm not knowledgeable or astute enough to know how we stopped it outside it looked to me like it was mainly the midfield being more accountable and dominant so they couldnt move it as easily. It's what makes me concerned for any rematch if Day is back.

It did feel like a game of chess out there so I'd kill for a deep dive from someone who knows what they are talking about

That's exactly what it looked like to me, we gave them the loose lateral player and guarded up the ground so they couldn't walk through us like a checkers game.

Our defense wants the long kick down the line to force a stoppage. I don't think we gave up a single mark to those long kicks to a pack once we were able to get it going.
 
Honeslty, I'm not knowledge or astute enough to know how we stopped it outside it looked to me like it was mainly the midfield being more accountable and dominant so they couldnt move it as easily. It's what makes me concerned for any rematch if Day is back.

It did feel like a game of chess out there so I'd kill for a deep dive from someone who knows what they are talking about

Not that I know what I'm talking about, but listening to the radio on the way back (including Longmuir's presser), it was simply about doing a better job of blocking the corridor and also (as you say) not allowing them to move it so easily. If the oppo has quick/clean ball through the middle with Gunston one out in the forward line and can kick it left/right/centre, it's impossible to stop him.

I was watching Gunston a bit off the ball and he's always moving around so he has some separation. Usually stays near the goal square and he starts his main lead when the ball is 100 metres away. Really great to watch even if it was driving me insane. I hate Hawthorn, but I can't hate Gunston. He's just so clever and a fair player without any of the annoying ducking/diving/stupid goal celebrations.

Cox also started playing way in front of him. Gunston likes to start in the goalsquare as I said above, and Cox was often 20-30 metres in front of him. At first it seemed a bit crazy to me, but if you stand next/near him, he will beat you anyway, so at least standing in front gives you some kind of chance if you can maintain a suitably large distance from the kicker. And then if we restrict the Hawks to the wings then Cox can guard the only real leading lane on the left or right.

Cox was so far in front that he was often halfway between Gunston and the pairing in front, and Cox sometimes came through to spoil the contest/pairing in front. There were a few times Gunston was left standing close to goal behind a contest with nobody anywhere near him but we managed to avoid it going over the back. Brave/risky and kudos to Cox and Longmuir.
 
I listened to an interview with Luke Ryan on triple M.

He said that during the half time break JLO showed them vision of the corridor and how our guys were on the boundary side allowing the Hawks access. He got them to shift about 5mtrs closing down the space and it worked. We were able to press them.
 

I was just thinking someone needs to slap me every time I go to respond to the f**kwits on FB who carry on that it was a lucky win… then I see this 😩😩

(I get you posted it to show how stoopid those social media morons are… but still triggered 🤦🏻‍♀️😅)
 
Gunston is just a freak and the connection he has with Ginnivan et all is ridiculous. If their midfield has any space he just cooks you with smarts and a team that can kick as well as any. I dont really understand why Chappy didnt go onto him tbh and Ryan was a really odd move.
I think you need to be very agile, and have elite pace to get him, plus willingness to give up your entire game to take him on. You can also afford to give up height on him, Chapman was a no brainer but Cox did brilliantly.

Having said all that, no one would have done much if the we let them move the ball quickly through the middle.
 

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Does anyone have the graphic showing where we took our shots from goal, especially for the first 3 quarters?

The commentators mentioned we took are shots from tough spots e.g. 40m plus out (several from outside of 50), while the hawks we taking them with in 40m most of the time.
 
I’ll be honest, I tipped hawthorn last night. I just thought after these 6 day breaks we’d be gassed.

Early on it looked like it, not because the boys weren’t trying, they were giving it everything but you could just see their max speed was not where it usually is.

Then somehow hawthorn was the mob that looked fatigued, and our fellas acted like they’ve never heard of the word fatigue before.

We really should have won by more if not for poor kicking, which I’ll put down to fatigue. Having said that, gee paddy voss- must be soooo mentally strong to bench press the whole gym, but somehow when kicking for goal, goes to water. He needs to pretend kicking is like a bench press!
 

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22 inside 50s to 4 in the final quarter...but yes it was lucky.

homer brain GIF
 
Just listened to Mitchells presser... I didn't think he was sooking or playing down how good we were. Said we dominated the fourth and they couldn't get field position or composure. That our best players started getting the ball (highlighted Murph and Jackson) and said if that happens Freo win.

I don't like the guy, was a sniper and met him a couple of times and was super pleased with himself. However, he has a less talented side than ours playing very good football.

The great news is that Gunston can't play forever and they have a few other keys on the older side. They will compete with us this year and next and then fall away a bit. We will continue to build.
 
Does anyone have the graphic showing where we took our shots from goal, especially for the first 3 quarters?

The commentators mentioned we took are shots from tough spots e.g. 40m plus out (several from outside of 50), while the hawks we taking them with in 40m most of the time.

Interestingly the expected score for us was 83.8, so down 4 points. The expected score for Hawthorn was 61.1, so down 12 points. We may have missed some easy ones, but kicked some hard ones, or we converted as expected. Hawthorn converted very well.
 
Not a big thing in the grander scheme of things, but i loved it nonetheless.

Freddy absolutely burnt Youngy on the second last goal that put us out by 8 points, but hows Young celebrating in the goal square as if he had kicked it himself. Total buy in from the whole squad.
 

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