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As soon as I heard Walker in for Hawkins and Chappy as sub I got alot more nervous.
If Walker doesn't play we would have been a massive chance.
I would have Vardy/West. If west played and not Walker I believe the result would be different.
If Walker doesn't play we would have been a massive chance.
I would have Vardy/West. If west played and not Walker I believe the result would be different.
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I was the opposite, I thought, much more mobile forward line, might be able to exploit McPharlin.
I clearly thought wrong.
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I thought the same. Wet day, need a forward who can pick up the ball off the ground. But what do I know? I thought drinking at 11am was a great idea too!
That's been the problem.
Everyone has wanted to pot Hawkins and tell the world how walker/kersten would do better yet when they get that they realise just how pitiful that setup is.
Mobile sure, inexperienced and ineffectual is the reality.
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Agreed SG, whoops, CS.
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I don't rate Walker and wanted kersten in for Hawkins as good leading forward. But you're right he was bloody quiet on the weekend I hardly noticed him.
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Amazed at the lack of critical thinking on here. Brown won't play on Schultz if he comes in for Lonergan (and he should). Taylor will play on him, and Brown will play as the third tall.
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Port are probably playing the shortest forward line in the league.
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Who's their 3rd tall forward? Don't say Lobbe, never goes forward, they only play I ruckman.
Agreed SG, whoops, CS.
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You mean my *cough* ahhh I mean "senatorguesty"s likes?
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Not sure you can say Kersten is ineffectual given he hasn't played a game.
He can't do worse than Walker, it's not possible, and if he came in and kicked 2 goals he'd be contributing as much, if not more than the current version of Hawkins.
I threw Kersten in just because it was an opinion of a few posters.
Watch the Lions game again (I know its crap, but try), Hawkins SHOULD have kicked a few goals but what he does that no other replacement can is he created 3/4 (I can't remember exactly, was 4 I think) goals from bullocking work against 2 defenders.
From his contested work and ability to draw defenders he got Chapmans goal in the first quarter, a Varcoe goal I think in the 3rd and 1/2 others that I can't remember who was the goal kicker.
Walker doesn't do that (or anything, not his fault though) and Kersten can't do that. Kersten is a leading forward, he isn't a replacement for Hawkins.
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There was never any realistic chance that either of them would contribute more than Hawkins.
Hawkins wasn't contributing enough.
Therefore neither Kersten or Walker would have contributed enough.
The obvious alternative was and is Vardy.
With West in the ruck.
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There is no replacement for Hawkins as such. No club has like for like with blokes like that.
There's no way anyone could say Kersten would not have contributed if he's never been given a game.
He may, he may not. But he has been kicking bags in the 2s.
There's no way anyone could say Kersten would not have contributed if he's never been given a game.
He may, he may not. But he has been kicking bags in the 2s.
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Was thinking Taylor forward to begin and go from there, a bit out there but hey.
Hate to see us go out without trying anything. Time to get a bit creative..
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I disagree with your starting assumption - the fact that Hawkins apparently pulled himself out of the side suggests that he himself thought that whoever his replacement was would be able to contribute more.
The question is what to do if Hawkins doesn't come up again this week? You'd think Walker would be unlikely to get another run given what a waste of space he was on Saturday. I think the West/Blicavs/Vardy combo is probably the most likely, with Vardy playing most of the game up forward. I really like Kersten, but the MC clearly thinks he's behind Walker at this stage, and I reckon stepping up from VFL to AFL finals intensity for his first ever game is just a massive ask. Good chance he wouldn't get near it.
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As soon as I saw the white shorts, that was it. Whether that is my omen, I just hate us playing in white shorts.
Crazy and somewhat useless omen. Oh well.
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Making at least half a dozen changes like you've been suggesting revamps the structure of the team.
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We've made 4-5 changes nearly every week this year. Why would it matter now it's a final? I also said they all wouldn't be made.
How does Taylor to full back instead of Lonergan make us worse?
How does Horlin-Smith in for Kelly or Corey make us worse?
How does Murdoch in for Varcoe make us worse?
How does West in for Vardy make us worse?
How does Kersten for Walker make us worse?
I know what you mean, 5 changes seems a lot. But have a lot at them. The options either a) definitely make us better; or b) don't make us any worse. What's to lose?
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I've got nothing against multiple changes myself. At the very least we've got some forced changes and Walker who simply has to go.
I agree the above changes don't make us worse. I guess we need to find the balance between forced changes and completely overreacting with changes, because we've gone from looking like a very settled line up in Rd 22 to all of a sudden having a whole heap of selection headaches. Whilst the above changes 1 for 1 don't make us worse of, a heap of changes can disrupt the balance/harmony of the team.
I'ts a shitty situation really.
I agree the above changes don't make us worse. I guess we need to find the balance between forced changes and completely overreacting with changes, because we've gone from looking like a very settled line up in Rd 22 to all of a sudden having a whole heap of selection headaches. Whilst the above changes 1 for 1 don't make us worse of, a heap of changes can disrupt the balance/harmony of the team.
I'ts a shitty situation really.
