Player Watch #20 Sam Reid

[Kennedy Parker]

Sam Reid

Sam Reid

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Sam Reid

Age

34

Ht

196cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

6.3

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

4.7

4star

T

2.2

4star

G

1.1

4star

D

12.0

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

6.0

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

0.0

1star

G

1.0

4star

D

9.4

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

0.4

3star

’s outstanding athleticism and strong contested grab make him a genuine threat inside 50. The 2012 premiership forward showed exactly that when he booted six goals in the Sydney Swans’ clash with Collingwood in Mark Grook at the SCG to win the 2019 Goodes-O’Loughlin Medal. The 2009 draftee can also play as a loose man in defence or pinch-hit in the ruck. Reid has had very little luck on the injury front in his time in red and white, but he didn’t miss an AFL match in 2019. He’s played 143 career games at the top level for a return of 154 goals.

Sam Reid

20

Sam Reid

Age

34

Ht

196cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

6.3

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

4.7

4star

T

2.2

4star

G

1.1

4star

D

12.0

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

6.0

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

0.0

1star

G

1.0

4star

D

9.4

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

0.4

3star

DOB: 27 December 1991
DEBUT: 2010
DRAFT: #38, 2009 National Draft
RECRUITED FROM: Wangaratta Rovers (Vic)/Murray U18

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[Olian]

Still needs to find his preferred role/s for the team.
Did have an average game on the weekend.

 

[S120]

Not saying he can't be good but why does he have a spot that cant be questioned when players like Membrey knock on the door or we lack height down back

His place can be questioned but the thing with the point about Membrey/lack of height in defence is that Reid is both of those in one. Much like LRT in 2012. In fact, check out the comparison between Reid's current season and LRT's 2012 season. Reid is playing a pretty similar role to 2012 LRT (mainly forward, sometimes in the ruck and seldom in defence). They are strikingly similar.

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/...=17&pid2=3381&type=A&fid1=P&fopt1=2012&fid2=S

Reid is playing in a much more stacked forward line too, it should be said.

I'm not particularly aghast about Reid's form and not overwhelmed. I think he's been OK this year. His versatility is too valuable to consider dropping though, I firmly believe that.

Some people are expecting Reid to be a top 10-15 forward at some point and I don't hold that expectation. If we get another LRT out of Reid, I'll be most content.

 

[The King!]

His place can be questioned but the thing with the point about Membrey/lack of height in defence is that Reid is both of those in one. Much like LRT in 2012. In fact, check out the comparison between Reid's current season and LRT's 2012 season. Reid is playing a pretty similar role to 2012 LRT (mainly forward, sometimes in the ruck and seldom in defence). They are strikingly similar.

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/...=17&pid2=3381&type=A&fid1=P&fopt1=2012&fid2=S

Reid is playing in a much more stacked forward line too, it should be said.

I'm not particularly aghast about Reid's form and not overwhelmed. I think he's been OK this year. His versatility is too valuable to consider dropping though, I firmly believe that.

Some people are expecting Reid to be a top 10-15 forward at some point and I don't hold that expectation. If we get another LRT out of Reid, I'll be most content.

I would suggest Reid is being paid more than LRT was in 2012.

I agree with a lot of what you say, I was talking more about the way players are marked, Reid always seems to have an excuse for barely touching it

If he played his role v the saints then his role is largely pointless

 

[swansfan51]

You know how Jarrad Waite is constantly and bitterly mocked for being Mr Potential? How there are always excuses for his lack of performance - youth, injuries, suspensions, different roles, weather, length of the grass?

He was ahead of Reid at the same age. So it isn't unfair if SR100 is frustrated at constant references to Reid's potential.

 

[S120]

You know how Jarrad Waite is constantly and bitterly mocked for being Mr Potential? How there are always excuses for his lack of performance - youth, injuries, suspensions, different roles, weather, length of the grass?

He was ahead of Reid at the same age. So it isn't unfair if SR100 is frustrated at constant references to Reid's potential.

As a devoted member of the "Jarrad Waite is the worst" Society, I appreciate that.

It comes down to expectations with respect to Reid. I think that's the point. If you're expecting him to become a top 10-15 forward, I think you're going to be sorely disappointed (and besides, we don't need him to be with Franklin and Tippett). If you want him to be an LRT style/quality swing man, things are looking up.

I dislike potential talk as much as the next sexually frustrated Swans fan, so I agree there.

 

[swansfan51]

It comes down to expectations with respect to Reid. I think that's the point. If you're expecting him to become a top 10-15 forward, I think you're going to be sorely disappointed (and besides, we don't need him to be with Franklin and Tippett). If you want him to be an LRT style/quality swing man, things are looking up.

This is a very reasonable point. As for my expectations of Reid - all I expect from him is to be worth a 5 year, $2million+ contract, because that's what he has. Is an LRT-type worth that? That's for others to decide.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

It's hard to say if Reid will even be at the club when his contract is up in 2 years let alone be at the Swans till he is 31, you basically look at it this way would Membrey offer more than Reid heading into the finals?

I would take Reid experience and composure over Membrey anyday of the week especially in a clutch final just my opinion of course.

 

[Tuco]

Oh really what happened?

Was tackled on the wing on the 2nd qtr. Hobbled off. Just a knock. He was very visible up to that point. Never sighted after. But with the sub activated he just played the game out like Bird.

 

[yoshi2284]

Membrey is for the future.. he is a perfect 3rd forward type.

 

[Cadsky]

Was tackled on the wing on the 2nd qtr. Hobbled off. Just a knock. He was very visible up to that point. Never sighted after. But with the sub activated he just played the game out like Bird.

Oh ok so nothing too serious. Thats good but still a little disappointed with hes output going by his stats. I guess thats all I can go by.

 

[The King!]

Oh ok so nothing too serious. Thats good but still a little disappointed with hes output going by his stats. I guess thats all I can go by.

agree

hardly like his stats on the weekend were down on the usual

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

agree

hardly like his stats on the weekend were down on the usual

You focus too much on stats. His role isn't about stats. Winning Premierships is far different to winning Supercoach. If Buddy's kicking 9, you can rest assured Reid is playing his role to perfection.

 

[The King!]

You focus too much on stats. His role isn't about stats. Winning Premierships is far different to winning Supercoach. If Buddy's kicking 9, you can rest assured Reid is playing his role to perfection.

How does Buddys kicking 9 correlate to Reid doing a good job?

Is this the drawing the saints 4th key defender away from him part of his role?

 

[MF]

My only real criticism of Reid at the moment is that you don't see him take many marks on the lead. For someone who plays a lot further up the ground I'd be expecting him to be taking a few marks on the wing as a target out of defense.

Other than that he seems to be playing his role.

 

[The King!]

My only real criticism of Reid at the moment is that you don't see him take many marks on the lead. For someone who plays a lot further up the ground I'd be expecting him to be taking a few marks on the wing as a target out of defense.

Other than that he seems to be playing his role.

you know your footy

what is his role in your opinion? and are we overpaying for that role?

 

[MC Bad Genius]

How does Buddys kicking 9 correlate to Reid doing a good job?

Is this the drawing the saints 4th key defender away from him part of his role?

No, I think it's more that Buddy was one out for a lot of the day, because the Saints had to look out for a number of tall forwards that are potential marking options (Tippett, Goodes, Reid, Pyke etc), so he played that role that definitely helped Buddy out in some way. Although, you could easily argue that help was minimal compared to the help of having a midfield totally overrunning (and outrunning - the Saints players were VERY flat-footed) their opposition.

Look, I think Reid is definitely not living up to the expectation of him really stepping it up once he bulked up a bit. When he first came into the side and had a run of good games taking lots of marks and kicking a few goals, people pegged him as being a really important player for the Swans in the future. But it hasn't happened. Yet. Jesse White got 6 seasons at the Swans. I think Reid has at least as much potential (there's that word again) as White, but also has shown a lot more than White ever did. He's also a fair bit younger than White was on debut, so has to be granted some more time to reach his peak powers as a key forward.

 

[MF]

you know your footy

what is his role in your opinion? and are we overpaying for that role?

Basically as others have said he's primarily a 3rd tall in a forward line containing Franklin and Tippett so that's going to heavily impact his figures. But as long as he's leading to the right spots and helping to isolate Franklin then he's probably doing what's asked of him.

I think when you consider he's also providing a chopout in the ruck and asked to fill space down back at various stages his figures are always going to be pretty poor. S120 seems to be pretty much spot on in that it's identical to LRT's role in 2012.

As for the money... If it's 400k+ a year then no. I don't think he has the same ceiling that we all thought he did when he first came on to the scene. I've reset my expectations slightly and just hope he can be as good as big brother.

 

[MarkP]

Kicked some clutch goals during the year. Done some last gasp stuff in the back line as well. Big plays.

Kicked a very helpful bag vs the Suns and tore the game apart.

If we could get a steady compromise in between tearing a top 8 team a new arseh*le in one quarter vs seeming to drift along and not imposing himself in games I would be over the moon.

Very happy over all.

 

[nottenthagain]

Membrey is for the future.. he is a perfect 3rd forward type.

Possibly... but can you see him hanging around for the opportunity to present itself? I reckon he's odds on for a trade at the end of the year.

 

[The King!]

i think Reid has the talent to be a much better defender where we lack depth

Membrey would be ideal with buddy and tippett

coaches know way better than me obviously

and reidy has had his role mucked about a bit, especially having to go into the ruck, i think he lacks confidence perhaps, because Membrey to me had a better presence in that one game than Reid does in terms of moving and presenting

 

[melbournehammer]

honestly just because you write it over and over doesn't make it any truer. He is doing his job which is to be available to do everything that the coaches need him to do.

if he doesn't go into the ruck who does ?

Whether he or you or anyone else like it he is a second ruck and a tall wingman 3rd forward or 4th forward. He is not playing as a key forward. man goodes doesn't leave the forward half anymore so reid is really playing much more like a wingman given where goodes is playing. In our game plan we kick it over his head, as we kick it over towers head and over rohans head and over bjs head and over cunning hams head and so on and so on. His actual job is to give pyke a chop out ten minutes a quarter, to play loose in defence if the other team is getting a run on and to provide an option if buddy is getting double or triple teamed.

Having watched him as a loose man against the hawks I have some concerns about him as a defender - which in one sense shouldn't surprise because he doesn't mark it that much playing as a forward. I used to think he'd be a great defender because he is so quick and has such long arms - i think he could play like talia but he seemed to lose the ball a bit in the air playing as a loose man which worried me - maybe he needs someone to lead him to the ball ?

But unless and until we have a second ruck this is what his role will be - a jack of all trades position

And if you think he is overpaid for this - well that is a list management issue and you can be pretty sure that someone will be in his ear to pay him to get that skill out of his body - it is what the market will pay for a player of his height and attributes, and i suspect many outsiders view him highly. Wed all love him to be nick riewoldt, and not schoenmakers, but schoenmakers has held his place in a seriously good football team

 

[GotTheGoodes]

Reid is young and has been carrying some injury niggles the past few weeks. He's still toughing it out and playing his role. Prior to the first of these knocks he was playing very very well IMO and was really showing something after moving into that support ruck/Def role. Playing more forward is all fine and well apart from the fact he now has guys like Buddy, Tippett & Goodes to share the ball with. He's not going to touch it as many times as he would have without those blokes roaming around. He's playing a role for the team and doing a good job... I understand the frustration but stats don't tell you everything and sometimes you need to sit back and really watch the workrate and what the contribute to the team before you pass judgement. I'm happy to say I've always been a Reid fan. I wanted him and Jesse to be our Buddy/Roughy combo... Now Reidy has new targets set. He's being asked to replace a club great in LRT and I think he's shifted his game (again) very well to do this.

Flexibility in roles playable has always been important but it takes on a new level in finals. Look at LRT covering in Def after a year up fwd in that final against Adelaide in 2012. His drop in form from a few weeks ago is based more-so on some small injury niggles and knocks along with Tippets return and Buddy being on fire more than anything else. His role and his versatility is going to be bloody important come finals and I can't pick anyone else able to contribute in all the areas he can to the level he can IMO.

 

[Parkerman]

I've noticed Reid playing loose at the back particularly towards the end of quarters, giving Ted and Reg chopouts and just trying to make sure we stop opposition momentum before going into breaks. Which would also mean he is doing his job by just standing in holes, which wouldn't do his possession count any good but be lauded by Horse and co. A real niche role.

And he is really starting to physically fill out. Those broad shoulder bones are starting to take on muscle.

One of the first picked, IMO.

 

[Tedeski]

Sam Reid is LRT's replacement, but a little more up market version.

The new Mr Fix It.

 

[The King!]

Horse already said tippett can ruck soon in the middle, reids 3 hitouts a game may no longer be required