2002 First time since when?

[Falchoon]

that no player kicked 10+ goals in a game?

Best was Coleman medallist Neitz with 9 and renowned goalkicker Brodie Holland with 8.

 

[shiva25]

The only player capable of kicking 10 or more in a game today is Matthew Lloyd although tighter defences these days as well as flooding tactics are going to make it a lot harder for forwards to kick bags of 10 or more goals in future

 

[godees]

Also against the bulldogs I think Neitz kicked 7 goals and had 13 shots at goal (3 behinds, 2 complete misses).

 

[Danni]

Originally posted by godees
Also against the bulldogs I think Neitz kicked 7 goals and had 13 shots at goal (3 behinds, 2 complete misses).

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And what happened to the other one?

 

[jamesr]

roo could kick 10 this year

 

[Macca19]

Originally posted by Falchoon
that no player kicked 10+ goals in a game?

Last time was 1965 when noone kicked 10 in a game.

 

[X_box_X]

It is a lot harder to score a bag of goals these days than what it was five or six years ago. I don't know why, but our backmen seem to get better each year.

I don't think many players will score 100 goals in a season. Maybe once in every five years if we're lucky.

 

[jerry springer]

Originally posted by shiva25
The only player capable of kicking 10 or more in a game today is Matthew Lloyd although tighter defences these days as well as flooding tactics are going to make it a lot harder for forwards to kick bags of 10 or more goals in future

what about Richardson,Neitz,Farmer,Tarrant and Barry Hall?Its normally the quality of the midfield that will dictate how many goals their full-forward will kick.Anyone of these players could kick a lazy 10 goals on any given day

 

[knuckles]

IF MM plays Molloy down back...all forwards have a chance at 10 goals. Lance can show how.

 

[Darky]

Let's not forget that games these days are shorter than they used to be, 80 minutes instead of 100. of actual playing time.

That probably contributes to players not kicking double figure bags as frequently as in the past, and teams rarely crossing the barriers of 200 points or 30 goals.

Then again, we also no longer have the plethora of quality full-forwards that played in the 80s and 90s (Lockett, Dunstall, Ablett, Taylor, Quinlan, Salmon, Roach, Beasley, Longmire, Sumich, Modra, etc. all being players capable of big bags). Lloyd is just about the last of his kind.

 

[Jabso]

The problem is the full-forward is dead now.
Teams want at least 3 of their forwards to be main targets/threats. Coaches now want their gameplan to be all about efficientcy, instead of just kicking it long to your full forward or player who is open they chip kick it around until they get a clear option.

 

[MarkT]

Originally posted by Darky
Let's not forget that games these days are shorter than they used to be, 80 minutes instead of 100. of actual playing time.

I'm not sure that is true. The old 100min included no time on for when the ball went over the boundry line. The actual quarters go about the same length and there is nothing to suggest that doesn't mean equal playing time. It would be marginal in any case IMO.

As you suggested, we just don't have the players at present and as other suggested, tactics have had an effect. If we get another group of gun FF's, thinks will change and attacks will be more centred around the match winning forwards.

 

[Yianni]

Originally posted by MarkT
If we get another group of gun FF's, thinks will change and attacks will be more centred around the match winning forwards.

Yes that's true, but I'd be interested to know whether there are as many specialist full forwards coming through the Under 18's comp these days.

How are the U18 coaches coaching? Are they using the AFL style midfield rotation and multi-pronged forward line gameplan, or the older key position gameplan?

Also, it might well make a difference that at Under 18 level, someone can be dominant just because they are much more physically developed at their age. For example, a 194cm, 95kg Full Forward would probably do very well against most 16 and 17 year old backmen, and might kick 6 or 7 goals a game on average. However once drafted and playing on men, his output might decrease markedly.

It all raises interesting questions on how the feeder programs work...

 

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by jerry springer
what about Richardson,Neitz,Farmer,Tarrant and Barry Hall?Its normally the quality of the midfield that will dictate how many goals their full-forward will kick.Anyone of these players could kick a lazy 10 goals on any given day

I reckon Carey could kick 10 from FF and Tredrea if he has one of those days that he kicks everything straight. I think Warrens highest was 8.

 

[Ausgard]

Carey has kicked 10+ twice from CHF with a slightly haphazard midfield deilvery


10 from FF could be on the cards with the Crows midfielders kicking it to him

 

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by Ausgard
Carey has kicked 10+ twice from CHF with a slightly haphazard midfield deilvery


10 from FF could be on the cards with the Crows midfielders kicking it to him

Lets hope it happens more than once

 

[Tio_Ray]

Originally posted by Darky
Let's not forget that games these days are shorter than they used to be, 80 minutes instead of 100. of actual playing time.

That probably contributes to players not kicking double figure bags as frequently as in the past, and teams rarely crossing the barriers of 200 points or 30 goals.

You are probably right....I remember having the great Peter McKenna as my teacher back in year 8....and he would always tell us about the day he kicked 100 goals from 100 metres out against the wind with 2 blokes on him...now thats what I call the good old days.

 

[shiva25]

Originally posted by X_box_X
It is a lot harder to score a bag of goals these days than what it was five or six years ago. I don't know why, but our backmen seem to get better each year.

I don't think many players will score 100 goals in a season. Maybe once in every five years if we're lucky.

Yes i agree that backlines have become tighter in recent years but there also is a lack of top class forwards these days as compared to 5 or 6 years ago.Dunstall,Lockett,Ablett were almost shoe ins to kick 100 goals a year when they were playing but in todays game only Lloyd would be more probable to kick 100 goals a year than anyone else

 

[godees]

Originally posted by Danni
And what happened to the other one?

oops...change that to 12 shots at goal. He also kick 7 goals 3 against Brisbane at the GABBA