2008 AA Ruckman

[GuzzLG]

Excellent.

After this, the WCE fans are going to be much more furious when Hille is picked as the AA ruckman in a month.

Looking forward to the dummy spits.

 

[wce4premiership]

Be funnier when he does get the AA guernsey that he deserves and you look like an idiot.

 

[GuzzLG]

Be funnier when he does get the AA guernsey that he deserves and you look like an idiot.

Yes he will. On the bench. I hear it gets cold and Hille only likes to sit on it when it's warm.

Oh also, Hille would like his oranges peeled and cut into 8 pieces.

 

[Quinz]

Yes he will. On the bench. I hear it gets cold and Hille only likes to sit on it when it's warm.

Oh also, Hille would like his oranges peeled and cut into 8 pieces.

You're a strange man AaronM.

 

[rgauci]

Update after round 19 (will do it again after round 22)

Hitouts:
Sandilands 571
Cox 512
Hille 346

Hitouts to advantage:
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Disposals:
Cox 419
Hille 308
Sandilands 299

Contested Disposals:
Sandilands 175
Cox 158
Hille 154

Clearances:
Cox 77
Sandilands 74
Hille 58

Marks:
Cox 111
Hille 97
Sandilands 72

Contested marks:
Sandilands 26
Hille 23
Cox 9

Marks inside 50:
Hille 16
Sandilands 12
Cox 5

Rebound 50:
Cox 46
Hille 23
Sandilands 18

Inside 50:
Hille 56
Cox 55
Sandilands 43

Goals:
Hille 17.16
Cox 9.7
Sandilands 8.10

Clangers:
Sandilands 42
Hille 51
Cox 51

Disposal efficiency:
Cox 69.6%
Hille 65.0%
Sandilands 64.9%

Goal assists:
Cox 8
Sandilands 7
Hille 5

Tackles:
Cox 34
Hille 30
Sandilands 26

1%:
Sandilands 43
Hille 39
Cox 25

Supercoach Average:
Cox 112.8
Sandilands 97.3
Hille 87.3

 

[SouthSwans]

Throw in Jolly's stats and your argument might have some merit...

 

[Altum Volantes]

Jolly's stats count towards Dean Cox because Cox still legally owns Jolly on account of the 06 GF.

 

[rgauci]

Jolly clearly the 4th best ruckman this year. I think the two AA spots will be given to 2 out of Cox, Sandi and Hille.

Jolly's stats:

Hitout: 434 (3rd)
Hitout to advantage: ???
Disposals: 232 (4th)
Contested disposals: 103 (4th)
Clearances: 54 (4th)
Marks: 91 (3rd)
Contested Marks: 18 (3rd)
Marks inside 50: 16 (equal 1st)
Rebound 50: 14 (4th)
Inside 50: 41 (4th)
Goals: 13.10 (2nd)
Clangers: 61 (4th)
Disposal Efficiency: 72.9% (1st)
Goal Assists: 7 (equal 2nd)
Tackles: 39 (1st)
1%: 30 (3rd)
Supercoach average: 84.5 (4th)

He's 3rd or 4th in a lot of important categories; hitouts, disposals, clearances.

Area's he excels; tackles, goals, disposals efficiency, marks inside 50. I'm not sure those areas will have you considered in the AA team. Goals are obviously important, but tackles could be put down to the Sydney game plan. The other two are so so areas.

 

[Altum Volantes]

You've ranked those out of the 4 under discussion yeah?

Done the other guys?

 

[rgauci]

You've ranked those out of the 4 under discussion yeah?

Done the other guys?

Only ranked against the other 3 ruckman mentioned.

Hille is 7th out of ruckman for hitouts.

 

[PIEd]

Excellent.

After this, the WCE fans are going to be much more furious when Hille is picked as the AA ruckman in a month.

Looking forward to the dummy spits.

hmmm... you might be disappointed when sandilands is named over hille on the bench! maybe, i dunno

 

[rgauci]

Hille out for the rest of the season. Only 2 games. Not sure how this will impact on the AA selection.

 

[rgauci]

As promised.

Games:
Cox 22
Sandilands 22
Hille 20 ***Important note Hille has 2 less games


Hitouts:
Sandilands 646
Cox 571
Hille 364

Hitouts to advantage:
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Disposals:
Cox 486
Sandilands 330
Hille 324

Contested Disposals:
Sandilands 196
Cox 183
Hille 161

Clearances:
Sandilands 88
Cox 87
Hille 60

Marks:
Cox 126
Hille 103
Sandilands 77

Contested marks:
Sandilands 28
Hille 24
Cox 10

Marks inside 50:
Hille 19
Sandilands 13
Cox 5

Rebound 50:
Cox 51
Hille 23
Sandilands 18

Inside 50:
Cox 61
Hille 58
Sandilands 45

Goals:
Hille 19.18
Cox 9.10
Sandilands 8.11

Clangers:
Sandilands 49
Cox 52
Hille 53

Disposal efficiency:
Cox 70.9%
Sandilands 65.7%
Hille 64.2%

Goal assists:
Cox 9
Sandilands 7
Hille 5

Tackles:
Cox 34
Hille 34
Sandilands 29

1%:
Sandilands 47
Hille 41
Cox 28

Supercoach Average:
Cox 111.8
Sandilands 93.3
Hille 87.8
Jolly 80.3
Petrie 95.7

From what i can gather, Sandilands has the most impact around the clearances. He wins the most contested ball, he leads the 1%, has the most clearances and DOMINATES the hitouts.

Cox has the best alround best game. Coming close to Sandilands impact at the clearances but leading the other 2 in outside work by a fair margin. He rebounds from defensive 50 and puts the ball inside 50 more than any other ruckman. He DOMINATES the disposal tally.

Hille has the strongest presence up forward, he has taken the most marks inside 50, is a close 2nd to Sandilands in 1% and contested marks and equal 1st with Cox in tackles. Hille DOMINATES the goal tally adding more than Cox and Sandilands combined.

Someone will ask why i haven't included Jolly or Petire. If you look up Jolly in the stats he just doesn't come close overall and looks a clear 4th. Therefore i haven't bothered to include him in the comparison. Petrie has had a great season. He's taken 150 marks and had 355 disposals. My problem is he's only a seldom ruckman. Its only since McIntosh went down that Petrie has been thrown the task more often. At the moment he's had 196 hitouts which in my opinion should exclude you from being named AA as a ruckman. If this was AA utility on the other hand. He'd be up there.

 

[wce4premiership]

Nice post.

It's hard to tell on stats alone but i'd say cox and sandi on the bench.

Those 2 games missed could make a big difference when i's so tight for the spots.

 

[TheBigT]

b) we were named team of the century in 2000

Can i just point out to you here, that 2000 was the first year of the 21st century and as such, the best team that year would automatically be the team of the century.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

After this, the WCE fans are going to be much more furious when Hille is picked as the AA ruckman in a month.

Looking forward to the dummy spits.

Hille hasn't even been named in the squad.

http://news.realfooty.com.au/sport/cats-set-to-dominate-all-australian-team-20080902-47xm.html

Cox, Sandilands and Petrie all preferred.

So what were you saying out furious WCE fans?

 

[kane249]

Excellent.

After this, the WCE fans are going to be much more furious when Hille is picked as the AA ruckman in a month.

Looking forward to the dummy spits.

 

[GuzzLG]

Hi guys

 

[BLUE BLEEDING]

hille didn't even make the all australian squad!
can't wait to bag my friend about it, for reason's you don't know why.

 

[pidge]

im very suprized hille didnt make it he was the inform ruckman most of the year

 

[bomber69]

hille didn't even make the all australian squad!
can't wait to bag my friend about it, for reason's you don't know why.

Yeah but your not as cool as him so im sure he wouldn't care.

 

[Salamander Man]

good choices in the end, i think hille was pumped up by some in the media beccoz hes a victorian and they dont watch enough of the wa sides but I watched both and cox and sandi were clearly the best two ruckmen this year.

 

[GuzzLG]

good choices in the end, i think hille was pumped up by some in the media beccoz hes a victorian and they dont watch enough of the wa sides but I watched both and cox and sandi were clearly the best two ruckmen this year.

Yeah but..... Drew Petrie

 

[Red Black and Blue]

Yeah but..... Drew Petrie

It was fair, Hille dropped form late in the year, and missing those last 2 and half games hurt his chances. Petrie was arguably the best utility ruck/forward/back this year, should make the bench.

 

[Mop]

It was fair, Hille dropped form late in the year, and missing those last 2 and half games hurt his chances. Petrie was arguably the best utility ruck/forward/back this year, should make the bench.

Ahead of Sandilands though? Nehhhhhh.