Draft Review 2008 - Re-do the 2008 draft

[jackess]

I think we had Blakely running with him for the first half tonight.

It's funny now looking back at all the crap we copped for taking S.Hill over him.

Both disappointing for early picks.

 

[Kram]

Both disappointing for early picks.

Not really, Hill is a fine player.

Rich maybe a bit disappointing but still a decent pick.

 

[jackess]

Not really, Hill is a fine player.

Rich maybe a bit disappointing but still a decent pick.

Would probably put Hill as a B grade wing and Rich as a B grade back flank. Depends how you rate them. But you expect best and fairests and AAs. Neither have really put together a top class season.

 

[Le Archie]

Hurley over Sloane lord have mercy

Sloane is an excellent player but given the positions they play and the consistency Hurley has shown (2 x AA Player) I would pick him over Sloane every single hour of every single day of every single year without hesitation.

 

[The Bomb]

Sloane or Hurley who really cares, both guns.
It's one of those win wins.

 

[Wild Bill]

Sloane is an excellent player but given the positions they play and the consistency Hurley has shown (2 x AA Player) I would pick him over Sloane every single hour of every single day of every single year without hesitation.

So you would trade Merrett for Talia? Without hesitation?

I would take Hurley 1st but there are kids I would prefer. Sloane is just not one of them.

 

[adammania9]

I reckon Beams has a decent case for at least top 3, is he really that far behind Sloane who is arguably first?


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[Big Fresh]

I reckon Beams has a decent case for at least top 3, is he really that far behind Sloane who is arguably first?


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Beams is a better player than Sloane. It's just injury that would lower his ranking.

 

[Le Archie]

So you would trade Merrett for Talia? Without hesitation?

I would take Hurley 1st but there are kids I would prefer. Sloane is just not one of them.

This is a super weird comparison because
A Merrett (2013) and Talia (2009) aren't even from the same draft class which is what this discussion is about.
B the comparison would indicate that Talia is the equal of Hurley. He's a good solid player but not anywhere near the offensive footballing talent of Hurley.
He averaged 25 touches as a KPD this year.

I'm not picking Hurley over Sloane just because he's a key position player. I'm picking him because in terms of flexibility as well as consistency across his entire career, he's been a better performed player.

 

[Le Archie]

Sloane or Hurley who really cares, both guns.
It's one of those win wins.

This is a really useless comment in a thread dedicated to ranking the 2008 draft class.

Why even bother?

 

[Apex36]

I reckon Beams has a decent case for at least top 3, is he really that far behind Sloane who is arguably first?


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If he hadn’t been injured so much he’d be number 1. Would have at least 2-3 AA’s under his belt instead of just the one so far.

 

[Wild Bill]

This is a super weird comparison because
A Merrett (2013) and Talia (2009) aren't even from the same draft class which is what this discussion is about.
B the comparison would indicate that Talia is the equal of Hurley. He's a good solid player but not anywhere near the offensive footballing talent of Hurley.
He averaged 25 touches as a KPD this year.

I'm not picking Hurley over Sloane just because he's a key position player. I'm picking him because in terms of flexibility as well as consistency across his entire career, he's been a better performed player.

Talia is 2 time AA he is every bit the equal.

I pick Hurley over Sloane because he is a key back. Not sure Hurley has been more consistent however. Sloane has 2 b&fs and an AA v 2 AAs.

 

[Jcpdragonx]

This is a super weird comparison because
A Merrett (2013) and Talia (2009) aren't even from the same draft class which is what this discussion is about.
B the comparison would indicate that Talia is the equal of Hurley. He's a good solid player but not anywhere near the offensive footballing talent of Hurley.
He averaged 25 touches as a KPD this year.

I'm not picking Hurley over Sloane just because he's a key position player. I'm picking him because in terms of flexibility as well as consistency across his entire career, he's been a better performed player.

Right now, only because of the position Hurley plays, there is some sort of argument. Over their careers Hurley's output does not compare to Sloane's.

 

[JG22]

Hurley, Beams, Sloane all much better players than Nic Nat

 

[liam123]

Hurley, Beams, Sloane all much better players than Nic Nat

I find it humorous how many people don't rate nic. His possession count is never high and he doesn't take a tonne of marks. He simply cannot be compared with other ruck man in terms of output. He makes everyone around him better, is a midfield bull, creates a tonne of pressure on his opponents, does a heap of 1%s, and does freakish things nobody else can do. He is a genuine match winner.

It's games like these were his impact is massive without it really showing stats wise:




If he played for a Vic club Everyone over there would be raving about him continually

 

[Jesslc]

I find it humorous how many people don't rate nic. His possession count is never high and he doesn't take a tonne of marks. He simply cannot be compared with other ruck man in terms of output. He makes everyone around him better, is a midfield bull, creates a tonne of pressure on his opponents, does a heap of 1%s, and does freakish things nobody else can do. He is a genuine match winner.

It's games like these were his impact is massive without it really showing stats wise:




If he played for a Vic club Everyone over there would be raving about him continually

lol Does it cross your mind that maybe you are the bias ones? You've got 2 teams over there to focus on. We have 10. We are more likely to be less bias.

 

[JG22]

I find it humorous how many people don't rate nic. His possession count is never high and he doesn't take a tonne of marks. He simply cannot be compared with other ruck man in terms of output. He makes everyone around him better, is a midfield bull, creates a tonne of pressure on his opponents, does a heap of 1%s, and does freakish things nobody else can do. He is a genuine match winner.

It's games like these were his impact is massive without it really showing stats wise:




If he played for a Vic club Everyone over there would be raving about him continually

He's not that good mate.

 

[adammania9]

Nic Nat is the best ruck in the comp in my opinion. Like Cyril, his influence speaks so much louder than his stat sheet.


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[liam123]

lol Does it cross your mind that maybe you are the bias ones? You've got 2 teams over there to focus on. We have 10. We are more likely to be less bias.

I've contemplated it many times. Most journos in Victoria only focus on the 10. Because there are only two here we look at everyone else too

 

[Wargreymon90]

Beams would be in the same discussion as Fyfe, dangerfield and martin if it wasn’t for injures.

Ridiculously good player

 

[Jesslc]

I've contemplated it many times. Most journos in Victoria only focus on the 10. Because there are only two here we look at everyone else too

Youve shifted it to journos... nobody listens to journos in Vic. Only nuffies do.

 

[JG22]

Nic Nat is the best ruck in the comp in my opinion. Like Cyril, his influence speaks so much louder than his stat sheet.


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Lmao

 

[Quinz]

Lmao

Solid argument.

 

[Frank Gallagher]

Sloane is an excellent player but given the positions they play and the consistency Hurley has shown (2 x AA Player) I would pick him over Sloane every single hour of every single day of every single year without hesitation.

And if you picked Sloan ahead of Hurley you'd be saying the exact opposite thing.

 

[Mr MysteryGuest]

This is a super weird comparison because
A Merrett (2013) and Talia (2009) aren't even from the same draft class which is what this discussion is about.
B the comparison would indicate that Talia is the equal of Hurley. He's a good solid player but not anywhere near the offensive footballing talent of Hurley.
He averaged 25 touches as a KPD this year.

lol, He's 2 x All-Australian, and his ability to actually defend against an opponent exceeds Hurley's easily

I'm not picking Hurley over Sloane just because he's a key position player. I'm picking him because in terms of flexibility as well as consistency across his entire career, he's been a better performed player.

wtf? I seriously don't understand how you could think this reasoning when Hurley spent the first 5 years of his career playing as a poor to average key forward.

Whereas Sloane has averaged over 20 disposals a game every year since 2011.