2011 Drafting, Trading, List Management Thread

[mr.11]

Shane Nelson has really good disposal correct???
And also has good endurance aswell as speed??

 

[Freo Blood]

I 5cm's I

Josh Gibson should of been All Australian this year and he is 189Cm's. There are so many ways to overcome a couple of cm's. Being faster, having a better leap, being stronger, longer arms, skill and smarts. Fevola was 191cm's.

Not to mention some players have long necks. What the correct measurement should be is height from toe to tip of fingers stretched above the head.

 

[Suma Magic]

Not to mention some players have long necks. What the correct measurement should be is height from toe to tip of fingers stretched above the head.

It's interesting that this stat, or a running jump height isn't used more. I'm guessing it is in recruiting and footy circles, but this sort of info, if public, would provide an interesting compliment to height.

Fyfe for example would have a decent improvement in size using this measurement. I'm a bit similar to Fyfe, only 184 but with a 191cm wing-span and good leap I'm more like 188-89. Which is handy, because I've hot rubbish skills and no ground-level game. TMI.

 

[Nickos66]

Not to mention some players have long necks. What the correct measurement should be is height from toe to tip of fingers stretched above the head.

Add to that abnormal blue whale-ish foreheads that see them gain an extra 5cm in height.

 

[Righteo]

Not to mention some players have long necks. What the correct measurement should be is height from toe to tip of fingers stretched above the head.

Hai guise you called?

 

[Angelus]

 

[Alfonz]

Not to mention some players have long necks. What the correct measurement should be is height from toe to tip of fingers stretched above the head.

Yeah, would be nice if they released the actual height reached with vertical and running jumps. McPharlin is listed as 193cm, but he would play taller than almost every KPP in the game.

 

[Proud Bogan]

Driver off the tee for mine.

 

[freodog]

Thought Nelson was 179cm? Although I know it is hard to argue that 2cm would make a huge difference...

Women may argue that

 

[Moo]

Women may argue that

Some men too

 

[yakka man]

NAB AFL Draft Machine

The NAB AFL Draft machine is up if people haven't seen it.

 

[yakka man]

The Official draft order has been finalized.

FINAL DRAFT ORDER
1. GWS Giants
2. GWS Giants
3. GWS Giants
4. GWS Giants
5. GWS Giants
6. Port Adelaide
7. GWS Giants
8. Brisbane Lions
9. GWS Giants
10. GWS Giants
11. GWS Giants
12. Brisbane Lions
13. GWS Giants
14. GWS Giants
15. Richmond
16. Fremantle
17. Western Bulldogs
18. North Melbourne
19. Essendon
20. Fremantle
21. Sydney Swans (F/S)
22. Carlton
23. West Coast Eagles
24. Gold Coast Suns
25. St Kilda
26. Richmond
27. Adelaide
28. West Coast Eagles
29. Fremantle
GC SUNS - COMPENSATION
30. Brisbane Lions
31. Essendon
32. Geelong
33. Hawthorn
34. Geelong
35. St Kilda
36. Melbourne
37. St Kilda
38. Hawthorn
39. Western Bulldogs
40. North Melbourne
41. Adelaide
42. St Kilda
43. Sydney Swans
44. Carlton
45. Port Adelaide
46. Adelaide
47. Brisbane Lions
48. Geelong
49. Western Bulldogs
50. Collingwood
51. Port Adelaide
52. Melbourne
53. Hawthorn
54. Melbourne
55. Richmond
56. GWS Giants
57. Western Bulldogs
58. Fremantle
59. Essendon
60. St Kilda
61. Sydney Swans
62. Carlton (FS)
63. West Coast Eagles (PR)
64. Adelaide
65. Collingwood
66. Geelong
67. Collingwood (SP)
68. St Kilda
69. Brisbane Lions (PR)
70. Western Bulldogs (PR)
71. Fremantle
72. Fremantle
73. Western Bulldogs (PR)
74. North Melbourne (PR)
75. Essendon (PR)
76. St Kilda
77. Hawthorn (PR)
78. Geelong
79. GWS Giants
80. Gold Coast Suns (PR)
81. Port Adelaide
82. Adelaide (PR)
83. Fremantle (PR)
84. North Melbourne (PR)
85. Sydney Swans (PR)
86. Geelong (FS)
87. GWS Giants
88. Gold Coast Suns (LT)
89. Adelaide (PR)
90. GWS Giants
91. Gold Coast Suns (LT)
92. GWS Giants
93. GWS Giants
94. GWS Giants
95. GWS Giants
96. GWS Giants

 

[Lach72]

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/126171/default.aspx

Final draft order.

Freo: 16, 20, 29, 58, 71, 72, and 83 (Nick Lower promoted rookie)

So at worst we'll be taking 5 picks plus Zac Dawson probably as a pass on 72 and into the PSD

 

[ImperialPurple]

Welcoming the new draftees...

(The first three might get offered 3 year contracts, that seems to be the standard in the past few years, but for now I'll list them as getting the standard 2 year draftee contract.)

2012
Suban
McPhee
Ibbotson
Crichton
Roberton
de Boer
McPharlin
Faulks
Griffin
Michie
Mellington
van Berlo
Walters
Crowley
Grover (Vet - outside list)
(14 + 1 vet)


2013
Hill
Broughton
Anthony
Clarke
Mayne
Bradley
Mzungu
Pitt
Morabito
Johnson
Silvagni
Lower
Sheridan
Crozier
Forster
Neale
Sutcliffe
(17)


2014
Pavlich (Vet - outside list)
Mundy
Duffield
Ballantyne
Sandilands
Barlow
Fyfe
(6 + 1)


Rookies
Roberts
(1+2 Vets.)


37 senior listed players (1 remaining - PSD pick)
1 rookie + 2 veterans (6 rookies + 2 vet)


6 Senior list vacancies - 5 FILLED, 1 PSD selection remains

5 Rookie list vacancies


I think that's correct....

 

[Sigwald]

5 rookies to be picked. Quite a lot. Exciting.

Pearce and Dick seem two options, and Tunbridge looks likely as well.

 

[ImperialPurple]

Welcoming the new draftees...

2012
Suban
McPhee
Ibbotson
Crichton
Roberton
de Boer
McPharlin
Faulks
Griffin
Michie
Mellington
van Berlo
Walters
Crowley
Grover (Vet - outside list)
(14 + 1 vet)


2013
Hill
Broughton
Anthony
Clarke
Mayne
Bradley
Mzungu
Pitt
Morabito
Johnson
Silvagni
Lower
Sheridan
Crozier
Forster
Neale
Sutcliffe
(17)


2014
Pavlich (Vet - outside list)
Mundy
Duffield
Ballantyne
Sandilands
Barlow
Fyfe
Dawson
(7 + 1)


Rookies
Roberts
Spurr
Schloithe
Menegola
King
Pearce
Pavlich
Grover
(6+2 Vets.)


38 senior listed players + 2 vets outside list
= 40 Senior Listed Players
+ 6 rookie listed players (+2 veterans)
= 6 rookies

46 players listed in 2012

 

[Arcassius]

current squad by intake year, current age in brackets




1998
grover (31)

1999
pavlich (29)

2000
mcphee* (29)

2002
crowley* (27)

2001
mcpharlin (30)
sandilands (29)

2003
mundy (26)
duffield* (26)
johnson (27)

2005
ibbotson (23)

2007
mayne (23)
bradley (26)







2008
hill (21)
ballantyne (24)
suban (21)
clarke (21)
walters (20)

de boer (21)
pearce (21)
van berlo (23)
broughton (25)


2009
morabito (20)
fyfe (20)
crichton (20)
roberton (20)

mcphee (29) *

barlow (23)
silvagni (24)


2010
mzungu (25)
faulks (23)
griffin (25)

pitt (19)
michie (19)
mellington (18)

anthony (23)

roberts (20)
lower (24)


2011
sheridan (18)
crozier (17)
forster (18)
neale (18)
sutcliffe (19)

dawson (25)

spurr (24)
schloithe (18)
menegola (19)
wilson-king (18)


35/46 (76%) since 2008 .. average age of the team is ~23

 

[Seppo]

Suban just signed for an extra 2 years until 2014.

Great news!

 

[ImperialPurple]

Oooh I love it when I get to update this with a signing - especially of one of my favourite players (and buddy from '09 and '11!)...

2012
McPhee
Ibbotson
Crichton
Roberton
de Boer
McPharlin
Faulks
Griffin
Michie
Mellington
van Berlo
Walters
Crowley
Grover


2013
Hill
Broughton
Anthony
Clarke
Mayne
Bradley
Mzungu
Pitt
Morabito
Johnson
Silvagni
Lower
Sheridan
Crozier
Forster
Neale
Sutcliffe


2014
Pavlich
Mundy
Duffield
Ballantyne
Sandilands
Barlow
Fyfe
Dawson
Suban


Rookies
Roberts
Spurr
Schloithe
Menegola
King
Pearce

 

[yakamoto]

Very informative IP. Underlines how good 2008, 2009 were in terms of drafting.

 

[yakamoto]

Sorry! My plaudits should have gone to Arcassius. But you can keep the ones I gave you, if you like, IP.

 

[Arcassius]

ahahaha all good - i was just curious after the comments regarding our list turnover the last few years.

 

[estibador]

Very informative IP. Underlines how good 2008, 2009 were in terms of drafting.

Those two years supply arguably 11 of our best 22.

 

[Patty_Moz]

Yeah wicked work Arcassius I was thinking of doing a similar thing but couldnt find the motivation great stuff

It goes to show how by drafting strongly you usually find a lot of talent however our drafting from inception til 2007 was pretty dismal and I think that in the short term this is going to cost us success however we are looking good for about 5 yrs time.

 

[Arcassius]

Well the number of older players will always taper off - I'm thinking of doing something a little more comprehensive and inputting all teams in the competition to work out spreads of players by draft. I'd be interested to see how we stack up against other teams, and it will probably give clearer insight into our drafting by comparing our team to other teams considered to be 'building' in the same period.

I dunno - I like stats. Might need a hand getting every player and their age and draft into the system though