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2012 Australian Open

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Incompetence on Fox Sports News at midnight. Do they only employ idiots?

The score as they reported it on screen:

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Tomic        4 7(7) 7(8) 2 6
Dolgopolov   6 7(5) 7(6) 6 3
 
Just went and had a look and I would hardly call a few people getting on their high horse a reaming.

Just as many are saying it was no different to some of Federer's antics against Nadal in the French Open.

He's one that certainly divides opinion, he's either loved or hated:p.
 
If your read my last post i said i feel sorry for as she has had her fair share of injuries. When she was getting her ankle taped she was laughing. And she came back out and was running on it. And was she was walking off she didnt have to much of a limp so i dont think it is carrer threatning. If it was her knee i would completly understand though.
An injury is an injury. For Anabel, it means she cannot go out there and play Li Na like she had anticipated. Think about all the preparation that has gone into this match, with her coaching team. I saw her yesterday at the Open, she was on top of the world and pumped about this match. It's about more than just reacting to the degree of injury they have.

I'm not saying you don't feel sorry for her, I'm sure you do as we all do. I have an issue with you judging her crying about it. I don't understand how you can judge someone else's emotions. It makes no sense.
 

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An injury is an injury. For Anabel, it means she cannot go out there and play Li Na like she had anticipated. Think about all the preparation that has gone into this match, with her coaching team. I saw her yesterday at the Open, she was on top of the world and pumped about this match. It's about more than just reacting to the degree of injury they have.

I'm not saying you don't feel sorry for her, I'm sure you do as we all do. I have an issue with you judging her crying about it. I don't understand how you can judge someone else's emotions. It makes no sense.

I just think it was a bit over the top to do it on court. Fair enough in the locker room or something.

Im sure you didnt defend Nick Riewoldt. But anyway moving on.
 
Tomic has been given no chance by some people to beat Fed but if he is on the top of his game he could push him and who knows.
I still think Fed will win but good luck to Tomic.
 
I just think it was a bit over the top to do it on court. Fair enough in the locker room or something.

Im sure you didnt defend Nick Riewoldt. But anyway moving on.
Do you have an issue with expressing emotion in public? And what has this got to do with football? If you know little about tennis, then it's probably a better idea to not post ridiculous statements.
 
Well yesterday was my last shift working at the tennis so now I can post in this thread. I have been reading it over the last week and as always there have been some interesting and some ridiculous comments made. It is always funny reading comments after the match has been decided, people calling players crap and then they go on to win the match.

In that point where it looked like Tomic went to challenge, after watching it a few times on replay I think this is what happened. Ball hits the line and someone clearly from the crowd yells "out." Sounded like the linesperson makes the call. As the person from the crowd yells, Tomic goes to put up his hand to challenge at the same time. Tomic hears the out call and does not complete his challenge call. Tomic has hit the ball back and realises that the point is still on, Dolgopolov then misses the net shot. I think the chair umpire needed to make the decision of replay the point.

It was such an interesting match to watch, the slicing championships. Impressed with Tomic and his ability to keep his head after losing the first set, as he was up a break. Not only that but in their previous 3 matches Dolgopolov won sets where he demolished Tomic. This match up had a lot of variety and tennis that we hardly ever get to see. It is good to see variety and have players use angles mixed with power. A couple of years ago I was not sure how good Tomic would be, but the Wimbledon performance, how he played in the Davis Cup and his 2012 season so far have impressed me a lot. He is fitter and moves better than he used to (obviously still not that great) and he has a great tactical brain.

The mens side of the draw is shaping up so well. Still left are Novak, Murray, Fed, Nadal, Delpo, Tsonga, Berdych, Gasquet, Monfils, Tomic, Raonic. Hopefully there will be some cracking matches over the next few days. There have already been some cracking matches in the first week.

Even the womens side is looking open. But Li is playing very well and I can see her beating Clijsters in the next round. Azarenka, Sharapova, Williams and Kvitova. Winner will be out of those 5.
 
Do you have an issue with expressing emotion in public? And what has this got to do with football? If you know little about tennis, then it's probably a better idea to not post ridiculous statements.

I was just saying it was like Nick Riewoldt crying on the football field. And i was saying the tears were over the top and i will stand by that. I dont know how having an opinion makes me know less about tennis but ok whatever you think.
 
I was just saying it was like Nick Riewoldt crying on the football field. And i was saying the tears were over the top and i will stand by that. I dont know how having an opinion makes me know less about tennis but ok whatever you think.
I don't have a problem with you having an opinion, but your opinion has absolutely no foundation. It is absolutely nothing like Nick Riewoldt. You are just using that as an example because is it a snide way to poke fun at the expression of emotion in sport. It is their whole life, their job, their family. At 29, Anabel probably doesn't have many years left. Another serious injury could seriously jeopardise it. Who knows what she's done to her ankle, even if she wasn't limping that much after the match? This obviously scared her. That's it. Deal with it, move on.
 
Well yesterday was my last shift working at the tennis so now I can post in this thread. I have been reading it over the last week and as always there have been some interesting and some ridiculous comments made. It is always funny reading comments after the match has been decided, people calling players crap and then they go on to win the match.

In that point where it looked like Tomic went to challenge, after watching it a few times on replay I think this is what happened. Ball hits the line and someone clearly from the crowd yells "out." Sounded like the linesperson makes the call. As the person from the crowd yells, Tomic goes to put up his hand to challenge at the same time. Tomic hears the out call and does not complete his challenge call. Tomic has hit the ball back and realises that the point is still on, Dolgopolov then misses the net shot. I think the chair umpire needed to make the decision of replay the point.

It was such an interesting match to watch, the slicing championships. Impressed with Tomic and his ability to keep his head after losing the first set, as he was up a break. Not only that but in their previous 3 matches Dolgopolov won sets where he demolished Tomic. This match up had a lot of variety and tennis that we hardly ever get to see. It is good to see variety and have players use angles mixed with power. A couple of years ago I was not sure how good Tomic would be, but the Wimbledon performance, how he played in the Davis Cup and his 2012 season so far have impressed me a lot. He is fitter and moves better than he used to (obviously still not that great) and he has a great tactical brain.

The mens side of the draw is shaping up so well. Still left are Novak, Murray, Fed, Nadal, Delpo, Tsonga, Berdych, Gasquet, Monfils, Tomic, Raonic. Hopefully there will be some cracking matches over the next few days. There have already been some cracking matches in the first week.

Even the womens side is looking open. But Li is playing very well and I can see her beating Clijsters in the next round. Azarenka, Sharapova, Williams and Kvitova. Winner will be out of those 5.
Seriously?
I've been to the tennis and you can tell the difference
Also Tomic was asked during his interview about it and wouldve said that if it was true, fact is, that he called for the hawk-eye but then in his interview he said he didnt mean too.

But it was a heat of the moment choice so you cant blame him
 
Personally, I don't think Tomic is someone who would lie about something like that. He comes across as extremely honest in his interviews and is refreshing in that way. It's one of the things I like about him and there wasn't much until very recently.
I think the accusations are more of a reflection of those accusing him of lying than they are on on Tomic. Those accusing him of lying or cheating are probably doing so because they know that's what they would do in that situation, so they're just assuming that Bernard would also do the same thing, as many seem to think everyone reacts the same way to all situations, which certainly isn't the case. They use it as an excuse for their own behaviour: "Oh, everyone does it, so it's OK". No, not everyone does it and it's not OK.
What he said in the press conference was that he held his racquet up to the chair ump to see if he was going to call the ball out, as Tomic said he often holds his hand up when that's the case, so Tomic was holding his racquet up to ask him if was going to do it this time, but once Tomic realised he wasn't going to do so (and call it out), he went on playing the point (was his explanation).
If he was asking for a review of the point, as some are suggesting he was, he surely would have simply stopped playing the point altogether and demanded the review, which was his right. That would have been even more likely when you consider the fact he only just pushed the ball back in, which gave Alex D the chance to hit a relatively easy winner. But he didn't and he kept playing the point, without demanding a review, so to me that means it's very unlikely that he was asking for a review.
It's very difficult to know exactly what his intention was for sure, though (it's one thing to know what the odds are and another altogether to know what has actually happened exactly), so unless anyone here is psychic, then it's all just speculation and guessing.
 

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He's never done that? You've seen all of every match he's ever played, have you? Bernard is very different to most in many regards. Are you saying he suddenly can't be different in the way he goes about things like this as well?
As for "he's never gonna look at a referee during a point", what the hell do you think he did during this point in question? Who was he looking at if not the "referee"? :eek:
 
He's never done that? You've seen all of every match he's ever played, have you? Bernard is very different to most in many regards. Are you saying he suddenly can't be different in the way he goes about things like this as well?
As for "he's never gonna look at a referee during a point", what the hell do you think he did during this point in question? Who was he looking at if not the "referee"? :eek:
He looked at the ref because he was challenging, didnt you see the close up of it during the match
 
What are the likely women's semi-finals?

My guess is Clijsters v Azarenka and Serena v Kvitova.

Or does anyone think Wozniacki or Sharapova can make it?
 
Q. What happened at the end of the first game in the fifth set.
BERNARD TOMIC: Yeah, it was a long rally, a slice rally. Four, five slices and he hit the ball long. I knew the ball was long called (apparently by someone in the crowd, clearly audible in the footage), but I looked to the umpire's chair because I sort of had my head down. I knew where the shot was. So even though I looked to the ref to see what his reaction was, because I didn't hear him, I didn't say a thing.
I knew I got the slice back. It was on my frame. I was looking at him whether he was going to say "out," but I continued to play. He thought I was going to challenge it. Got lucky I didn't say anything.

Q. So in your mind you didn't challenge?
BERNARD TOMIC: No, I didn't challenge but I looked ‑‑ sometimes before the ref says "out" and overrules, he lifts his arm.
At that time when he didn't say "out," I continued to play. So I went like that (lifted racquet up, to ask if he was going to call it out). Alex thought I was challenging, and I didn't focus on that shot.

I don't see that as being inconceivable at all. I know I've been accused of lying on plenty of occasions when I was telling the truth, even by those who are supposed to know me well, so it could just as easily be the same for Tomic here.
But everyone will think what they want to think. As I said, it's far more a reflection of them than it is of Bernard, who they probably don't really know from Adam.
 

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Doesn't help when Tomic has played 14 out of 15 possible sets while Federer has 2 straight wins and a walkover.

I reckon Tomic could've taken a set if he didn't spend so much time on court. This one will be a smashing I reckon, Federer will be too fresh considering his time on court.
 
Q. What happened at the end of the first game in the fifth set.
BERNARD TOMIC: Yeah, it was a long rally, a slice rally. Four, five slices and he hit the ball long. I knew the ball was long called (apparently by someone in the crowd, clearly audible in the footage), but I looked to the umpire's chair because I sort of had my head down. I knew where the shot was. So even though I looked to the ref to see what his reaction was, because I didn't hear him, I didn't say a thing.
I knew I got the slice back. It was on my frame. I was looking at him whether he was going to say "out," but I continued to play. He thought I was going to challenge it. Got lucky I didn't say anything.

Q. So in your mind you didn't challenge?
BERNARD TOMIC: No, I didn't challenge but I looked ‑‑ sometimes before the ref says "out" and overrules, he lifts his arm.
At that time when he didn't say "out," I continued to play. So I went like that (lifted racquet up, to ask if he was going to call it out). Alex thought I was challenging, and I didn't focus on that shot.

I don't see that as being inconceivable at all. I know I've been accused of lying on plenty of occasions when I was telling the truth, even by those who are supposed to know me well, so it could just as easily be the same for Tomic here.
But everyone will think what they want to think. As I said, it's far more a reflection of them than it is of Bernard, who they probably don't really know from Adam.
Looking at the close up of him, he pointed and lifted up his racquet signalling a challenge
 
If anyone could do it, it is someone with a different game. Only Nadal and Joker could do it player the current game. And someone said prior to Dogopolov or whater the spelling was, he actually had the most similar game to Tomic. Some of the rallies were more like raquetball or squash, if only David Foster Wallace was alive, to see them he may not have topped himself, only player who could make me interested in tennis in BT, no sympathetic to his person, but the game is sososo compelling. And the hgh and androgens his trainer have him on, have rectified his court movement to the extent it will never be a glaring weakness within two years, as it breaches competency right now.
 
I would not trust BT nor his father as far as the winter solstice but eh, thats me. Takes his kid of court in the sattelite circuit, protesting refs, he is like Dokic's father, with more talent in his child, and channels vicarious...

But eh, BT will learn the ethics he is taught at home, but given a decade, can be judged when he matures and becomes the man, but problem is, higher status will bring greater indulging from the authorities in TA and ATP etc.

folks lie, most folks lie, individuals with little in the way of ethics will be very fluid with the truth. But eh, the kid can play eh, cant he. I did not see this rally or controversy, but you need to be gullible to take anything BT and his ol'man say as gospel.
 
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