List Mgmt. 2013 Draft /PSD/Rookie draft discussion

[Mullayo]

Apologies in advance, I was going to make a post specifically for it but I don't have the privileges.All the fuss about Jaeger O'Maera and Jack Martin made me wonder if we have been out drafted/strategised by the Suns so I investigated further. Again using the AFL official players ratings it seems the current difference between us is only Gary Ablett. I've made a chart comparing there player positioning with ours. I've added our excellent offseason trades (in bold)
Our respective draft choices have been italicised.Our respective franchise salary players have been underlined.Happy to report we seem to have nailed it. It was made easy coming a year after GCS and stealing their first rounders away in 2011, then dominating the next 2 years drafts as well has us in good stead.

There are some interesting groupings. Ablett aside it's even for the first 150 or so. Then we have a bunch poised to breakthrough between 160 and 240.
With the bulk of our squad a year younger, you wouldn't be out of line to expect us to overtake them this year. The chart would say our core is already more elite overall than them and with time on our side, more upside still. Obviously stats aren't everything but this does give an interesting overview. With Boyd and Patton bringing goals who knows what could happen? The pieces are in place.

 

[Mullayo]

Rating Player Position Points

1 Gary Ablett Midfielder 720
27 Harley Bennel lMidfielder 476

117 Dion Prestia Defender 379

146 Jarrod Harbrow Defender 361



216 David Swallow Midfielder 308
217 Danny Stanley Defender 307
228 Trent McKenzie Defender 299
229 Greg Broughton Defender 297
247 Charlie Dixon Ruck 281
261 Rory Thompson Defender 274
264 Jared Brennan Midfielder 271
281 Matt Shaw Defender 260
293 Aaron Hall Forward 252
296 Jaeger O'Meara Midfielder 249
303 Campbell Brow Forward 244
305 Sam Day Forward 243



333 Michael Rischitell Midfielder 215
341 Tom Murphy Defender 210
346 Steven May Forward 206
347 Luke Russell Defender 206
349 Brandon Matera Forward 202
351 Zac Smith Ruck 201
367 Tom Lynch Forward 188
378 Matthew Warnock Defender 177



400 Karmichael Hunt Midfielder 162
472 Kyal Horsley Midfielder 109
480 Sebastian Tape Defender 103
514 Joel Wilkinson Defender 88


GWS

29 Callan Ward Midfielder 475
55 Heath Shaw 444
124 Dylan Shiel Midfielder 374

149 Shane Mumford Ruck 357
151 Jonathan Giles Ruck 354
160 Jeremy Cameron Forward 349
164 Adam Treloar Midfielder 347
188 Tom Scully Midfielder 325
215 Toby Greene Midfielder 308
218 Josh Hunt Defender 305
231 Devon Smith Midfielder 296



276 Tim Mohr Defender 265
287 Phil Davis Defender 256


322 Stephen Coniglio Midfielder 226


356 Rhys Palmer Midfielder 197
366 Curtly Hampton Defender 188
371 Adam Kennedy Defender 186
375 Tomas Bugg Defender 181
379 Dylan Addison Defender 179
401 Lachie Whitfield Midfielder 162
427 Stephen Gilham Defender 143
441 Adam Tomlinson Forward 134
451 Will Hoskin-Elliott Midfielder 124
494 Nicholas Haynes Midfielder 99
510 Zachary Williams Midfielder 89
529 Matthew Buntine Defender 79
553 Jed Lamb
554 Jonathon Patton

 

[Mullayo]

Sorry I had a table that had the two lists side by side it was more effective visually but you can still see our dominance.
A good draft today will only enhance that.


Draft GSC

1 Jack Martin Midfielder
5 Kade Kolodjashnij D/M
20
27

Draft GSC
1 Tom Boyd
2 Josh Kelly Midfielder
14
29
48
72
73

 

[lionshine]

Pick 1: Tom Boyd

 

[Ichabod Noodle]

1: Tom Boyd. Wow did not see that coming. Total shock out of left field.

 

[lionshine]

Pick 2 Josh Kelly

 

[captainMyCaptain]

No surprise but great to have such a talent and quality kid on board

 

[Ichabod Noodle]

How big is Tom Boyd going to be when he finishes growing. Kid is an absolute monster

 

[Mullayo]

Draft GSC
1 Tom Boyd
2 Josh Kelly Midfielder
14 Cameron McCarthy???
29
48
72
73

Nice speech by Boyd, I can see why he's earmarked as a future captain

 

[dlanod]

What the *???

That's a bit of a headscratcher.

 

[Scully2Folau]

Lobb at 29, not so surprising.

 

[captainMyCaptain]

Can only assume they plan to turn mccarthy into a defender or they just being the only team that has key forwards

 

[Ichabod Noodle]

Tom Boyd "I'm more of a ruck turned forward rather than a forward who can ruck"

 

[Scully2Folau]

McCarthy is 194cm and grew 15cm in the past year. I know nothing about him as a footballer but that smells like versatility to me, can't imagine he played too 'tall' at 179cm.

 

[Ichabod Noodle]

Don't like passing on pick 48. That pick cost us three players to get and then we don't use it. Not happy Jan

 

[captainMyCaptain]

So to summarise we have added Boyd, Kelly, McCarthy, Lobb and now just Barrett and Williams to be added as late picks, plus Lamb psd and then thats the core of our list build sorted

 

[Ichabod Noodle]

Liked a comment on the main board thread "You must be This tall to ride with GWS"

Also just noticed Simon Tunbridge was elevated from the rookie list at the Weagles. One of the few to walk out on us for homesickness reasons. Good luck to him.

 

[Andre the Giant]

Thoughts on draft -

Boyd - Always the stand out player and looks to be a thorough professional...can't miss
Kelly - The worker, this kid will get every ounce of ability from himself, he is on a mission to make it and he will
McCarthy - Love him from what I've seen as a player but shocked we selected him. Just not sure where he fits in with Cameron/Patton/Boyd/Tomlinson/Jaksch already there. Has incredible raw talent and will be a WA alumni for Lobb and Cogs
Lobb - Rapped with this selection, has genuine height and athleticism. Now with Mumford/Phillips/Downie and Lobb we have some nice ruck depth

All in all pretty happy. Even though McCarthy was a surprise he was really a top 10 selection on talent. Perhaps he can learn down back as he is very raw. Would have liked a Taylor as he would have injected some speed but obviously his lack of height turned a few people off.

I reckon on face value Brisbane, GWS and Collingwood were the big winners with St Kilda also doing pretty well but we will only really know in about 5 years!!

 

[Mountain Giant]

Don't like passing on pick 48. That pick cost us three players to get and then we don't use it. Not happy Jan

I wanted Fantasia

 

[OrangeDuck]

I've said it before but we will play 22 tall forwards in the one team. We are the GIANTS!

 

[captainMyCaptain]

 

[captainMyCaptain]

"We wanted to pick the best players, really. Our last pick there (Rory Lobb) was maybe on a bit of a needs basis, but certainly our first three we were just picking the best player." - Stephen Silvagni, list manager

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-11-21/2013-draft-what-the-clubs-said

 

[captainMyCaptain]

So on monday we have another list lodgement and it seems that Downie and Whiley are still unsigned so they might have something to worry about. Also on Monday we can prelist any nsw zoned rookies so hopefully we will give guys like Gibbons & Ellis a shot. Then on Wednesday we have the psd (lamb), and the full rookie draft - then were all done!

 

[IanW]

So on monday we have another list lodgement and it seems that Downie and Whiley are still unsigned so they might have something to worry about. Also on Monday we can prelist any nsw zoned rookies so hopefully we will give guys like Gibbons & Ellis a shot. Then on Wednesday we have the psd (lamb), and the full rookie draft - then were all done!

I can see why Downie should be worried, but Whiley played well enough as a stopper that he was worth his list spot IMO.

 

[captainMyCaptain]