List Mgmt. 2015 AFL Draft - what type of players should we be looking at & who do we take? (Poll added)

[omdd]

Another spud we do not need.

As much as I don't like the pick up either we need midfield depth, if we run into the same injuries we had last year we don't have older bodies like carazzo Judd ellard to sub in anymore

 

[Soapy V]

I insist we call Cunningham, 'David Cunningham taken with Pick #19 that we prised out of Richmond for that flake Yarran'

i hope people remember all this when getting emotional about certain players. finally we have got tough and moved on talented but inconsistent and selfish players. what have we got in return? i reckon we are now so much better off for doing this. not only with talent but with the overall excitment around the club

 

[Azul]

McKay, unless he grows, will be groomed as a KPF so fortunately SOS's opinion of our ruck strength (sic) was beside the point.

I can't personally see us taking another at this stage but Nyuon and Parrella are still available in the rookie draft.

I think McKay will spend 25% game time in the ruck once Levi retires.

#faithinphillips

 

[Sector 7G]

I can't personally see us taking another at this stage but Nyuon and Parrella are still available in the rookie draft.

I think McKay will spend 25% game time in the ruck once Levi retires.

#faithinphillips

With reduced rotations and no sub, teams could well go back to playing 2 genuine ruckmen.

 

[Azul]

As much as I don't like the pick up either we need midfield depth, if we run into the same injuries we had last year we don't have older bodies like carazzo Judd ellard to sub in anymore

More opportunities for Whiley, in my opinion, can only be a good thing.

I'd expect Wright, if recruited, to play small forward. But I'd probably be happier about Kerbatieh.

 

[Azul]

With reduced rotations and no sub, teams could well go back to playing 2 genuine ruckmen.

Yes, that's a possibility with Krooz and Phillips.

 

[Wickzki]

My statement that "he could not be traded because of medical issues" remains true whether or not the club wanted him to stay. Had other clubs been satisfied medically, "given Kreuzer was exploring his options", he might have been traded. So, he could not be traded NOT because he was not on the trade table (as a free agent exploring his options he was) but because of medical issues. And in any event Kreuzer's long term fitness remains "an issue" whether we like it or not.

No, Kreuzer would never have been traded. Either he would have signed with another club and the club would have been advised that the contract met satisfactory grounds for a band one compensation pick (i.e. pick 2) or we would have matched the contract and he would have remained at Carlton. Ultimately, he re-signed with Carlton after nobody else offered him a satisfactory contract to leave clubs. Yes, two clubs publicly came close to offering Kreuzer a contract but there have been suggestions that other clubs came offering contracts that Matthew deemed unsatisfactory to leaving the club for. Carlton wanted to retain Kreuzer unless they were blown out of the water with a silly contract offer.

There was never any discussions that Kreuzer would have left via trade. This was not a Patrick Dangerfield type situation where had the Crows opted not to match a contract they would have received massive unders so it was in both team's best interests to work out a trade (which kudos to the Crows and Geelong did so very well, very quickly).

 

[Windhover]

No, Kreuzer would never have been traded. Either he would have signed with another club and the club would have been advised that the contract met satisfactory grounds for a band one compensation pick (i.e. pick 2) or we would have matched the contract and he would have remained at Carlton. Ultimately, he re-signed with Carlton after nobody else offered him a satisfactory contract to leave clubs. Yes, two clubs publicly came close to offering Kreuzer a contract but there have been suggestions that other clubs came offering contracts that Matthew deemed unsatisfactory to leaving the club for. Carlton wanted to retain Kreuzer unless they were blown out of the water with a silly contract offer.

If you reread what you have posted you will see the highlight in your first sentence (which is nothing more than your strongly held opinion) is actually contradicted by your last sentence.

 

[jezzajay]

today i woke up feeling like we have started afresh (with thanks to last nights draft and the trading period)...kinda cleansing... its a new day, a new season...a new outlook. plenty to look forward too...
go blues!

 

[Wickzki]

If you reread what you have posted you will see the highlight in your first sentence (which is nothing more than your strongly held opinion) is actually contradicted by your last sentence.

How so?

Carlton were never going to trade Kreuzer.

Either he signed with someone else and Carlton got band one compensation or he was going to be retained by the club.

Where in that is there a trade?

 

[Chalky Blues]

i dont see why would sign anything else now expect a rookie or two. if we wanted wright we would of signed him and probably not kept armfield. cant see it happening now.

If you sign as a rookie don't they get paid alot less??? I could be wrong

 

[The Flying Doormat]

So, things heading in the right direction under Trigg's tutelage?

 

[Chalky Blues]

I don't think we have had this much excitement at the Blues since trading in Juddy!
Go Blues now everyone must get on board and buy up memeberships I'm now getting my almost 1yo old boy & resigning up my 2yo daughter later today
Thanks SOS for getting a positive vibe back at the club

 

[Windhover]

How so?

Carlton were never going to trade Kreuzer.

Either he signed with someone else and Carlton got band one compensation or he was going to be retained by the club.

Where in that is there a trade?

"Carlton wanted to retain Kreuzer unless they were blown out of the water with a silly contract offer. "
. . . is what you posted. Presumably having been "blown out of the water" we would have "accepted" what, to you, might have been "a silly contract offer". Guess what? When an offer is accepted a "trade" takes place.

 

[Wickzki]

"Carlton wanted to retain Kreuzer unless they were blown out of the water with a silly contract offer. "
. . . is what you posted. Presumably having been "blown out of the water" we would have "accepted" what, to you, might have been "a silly contract offer". Guess what? When an offer is accepted a "trade" takes place.

Wrong.

In free agency if a team doesn't want to match a contract they don't and they receive compensation from it from the AFL not the team signing the player.

That's not a trade.

 

[FootyGeek]

Lol Kouta had no where near the break away speed of Cunningham and Cunningham does not poses the height nor the physical attributes of Kouta.

More a Chris Judd - explosive speed away from the contest kicks okay not exceptional on both feet. As Judd did, he will need to develop his inside game....still a long way from putting him in the same league as the Messiah.

Sorry mate, caught a beauty though.

 

[Windhover]

Wrong.

In free agency if a team doesn't want to match a contract they don't and they receive compensation from it from the AFL not the team signing the player.

That's not a trade.

You are right, but that is not what you said to which I responded. Do you really need me to quote your last line again, in which there is NO mention of FA?

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

You are right, but that is not what you said to which I responded. Do you really need me to quote your last line again, in which there is NO mention of FA?

It was obvious. A large contract offer entices the player. A large trade offer entices the club. In my reading he was clearly talking FA.

 

[Sector 7G]

Interesting that according to the HS, EFC won the draft picking up 2 guys who could have gone as rookies at 29&30.

 

[slashin_velvet]

Interesting that according to the HS, EFC won the draft picking up 2 guys who could have gone as rookies at 29&30.

I hate all this "winning the draft" stuff. It's way too early to tell who is a winner from a draft....all one can say is that some clubs preferred players that the media were less aware of. And secondly, any club with multiple first rounders will appear to have "won the draft" because they had more selections at the top.

We've clearly walked away with a good haul, however we had more top 20 picks than any other club, so its hardly a level playing field.

 

[zeeCFC]

I describe Cuningham as a dual sided less prolific Nathan Freeman.

 

[Lace_Out]

^^ looks like Braddles in the still..

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[Faz 2000]

I describe Cuningham as a dual sided less prolific Nathan Freeman... who can walk unassisted and tie his boot laces without tearing a hamstring.

 

[Matty411]

I describe Cuningham as a dual sided less prolific Nathan Freeman.

Has a bit of Boekhorst to him, I thought.

 

[Aphrodite]

Great draft for us.

Nailed it SOS!