Analysis 2016 AFL Trade Week Thread

[Seanybruz]

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Awesome we get to help another rival club bolster their list & the other party get the player they're after, we exist to help out the competition at our clubs expense.

 

[Lightning_Rod]

Old mate Crippa will be on trade radio at 9:30 sa time(10am vic time)

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[blaargh]

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You don't do trades just to "break even". Therefore I'm with you. Have a feeling we're playing our cards very close to our chest as we work on something bigger. It may not be JOM, but I sense something is going on.

I Hope so. Surely there must be a bigger play going on.

 

[Janus]

I've just come up with a new theory that could explain exactly why we did what we did yesterday.

Chris Davies and Jason Cripps kept banging on and on about how according to the draft index, 19 and 30 being the equivalent of pick 8.

Who has pick 8 right now? Gold Coast.

But the thing is, Gold Coast already HAD pick 30, and they aren't going to accept their own pick back with 19 for 8 (and I don't think you're allowed to do that anyway). Which is why we are looking to upgrade 30 to an earlier second round pick...then we can trade Ah Chee and that pick (say 25 from Carlton) with 19 to Gold Coast for 8 and 27.

"But Janus," you cry. "Why would Gold Coast want to lose 8 and 27 for Ah Chee, 19 and 25?!"

Now we come to the real heart of the deal, which involves O'Meara, Hawthorn and Bowes.

At the moment, Essendon and GWS won't bid for Bowes. I believe now the Hanley deal is done, Brisbane won't either, having a gentlemen's agreement with Gold Coast not to bid. Pick 4 is Gold Coast's, and they will bid on the highest ranked GWS academy kid to ensure GWS wastes Pick 5, which Carlton will trade to GWS for Marchbank and 15.

Gold Coast will then have 6 from Richmond for Prestia. Again, they don't want to take Bowes because why would you if you can get him cheaper and pay him less (salary is tied to draft position)? So they select someone else, knowing they have the picks to get Bowes at any time.

Fremantle is next with 7...but they don't bid on Bowes either.

Then comes 8 and 9 - and the agreement we have with Gold Coast not to bid on Bowes.

With 8, we select Taranto.

With 9, we select O'Meara - which was the plan all along. See, I believe that O'Meara chose Hawthorn as his destination, not because he wanted to go there, but because he promised his girlfriend that they would move to Melbourne even though he didn't really want to go. So he selected the one club he knew had no way possible of getting the deal done without trading out star players who didn't want to move.

That's why Hinkley visited the Gold Coast during the season. That's why Hinkley and Dixon met with O'Meara recently. It's why we are looking for another second round pick.

Of course, Hawthorn will select Bowes with 10 to try and stick it up Gold Coast, but since the difference between 10 and 19 is a measly 250 points with the discount, it's not going to matter to Gold Coast. They'll get a top ten talent for the equivalent of a second round pick...and everyone is happy.

Except Hawthorn, of course.

 

[Hong-Kong Phooey]

I've just come up with a new theory that could explain exactly why we did what we did yesterday.

Chris Davies and Jason Cripps kept banging on and on about how according to the draft index, 19 and 30 being the equivalent of pick 8.

Who has pick 8 right now? Gold Coast.

But the thing is, Gold Coast already HAD pick 30, and they aren't going to accept their own pick back with 19 for 8 (and I don't think you're allowed to do that anyway). Which is why we are looking to upgrade 30 to an earlier second round pick...then we can trade Ah Chee and that pick (say 25 from Carlton) with 19 to Gold Coast for 8 and 27.

"But Janus," you cry. "Why would Gold Coast want to lose 8 and 27 for Ah Chee, 19 and 25?!"

Now we come to the real heart of the deal, which involves O'Meara, Hawthorn and Bowes.

At the moment, Essendon and GWS won't bid for Bowes. I believe now the Hanley deal is done, Brisbane won't either, having a gentlemen's agreement with Gold Coast not to bid. Pick 4 is Gold Coast's, and they will bid on the highest ranked GWS academy kid to ensure GWS wastes Pick 5, which Carlton will trade to GWS for Marchbank and 15.

Gold Coast will then have 6 from Richmond for Prestia. Again, they don't want to take Bowes because why would you if you can get him cheaper and pay him less (salary is tied to draft position)? So they select someone else, knowing they have the picks to get Bowes at any time.

Fremantle is next with 7...but they don't bid on Bowes either.

Then comes 8 and 9 - and the agreement we have with Gold Coast not to bid on Bowes.

With 8, we select Taranto.

With 9, we select O'Meara - which was the plan all along. See, I believe that O'Meara chose Hawthorn as his destination, not because he wanted to go there, but because he promised his girlfriend that they would move to Melbourne even though he didn't really want to go. So he selected the one club he knew had no way possible of getting the deal done without trading out star players who didn't want to move.

That's why Hinkley visited the Gold Coast during the season. That's why Hinkley and Dixon met with O'Meara recently. It's why we are looking for another second round pick.

Of course, Hawthorn will select Bowes with 10 to try and stick it up Gold Coast, but since the difference between 10 and 19 is a measly 250 points with the discount, it's not going to matter to Gold Coast. They'll get a top ten talent for the equivalent of a second round pick...and everyone is happy.

Except Hawthorn, of course.

Do you want to help me with some of my work?

 

[Lagooner]

You don't do trades just to "break even". Therefore I'm with you. Have a feeling we're playing our cards very close to our chest as we work on something bigger. It may not be JOM, but I sense something is going on.

Unfortunately we're holding a 2, a 4, the 7 of Swords, an expired Motorcycle Learner's Permit and a West Torrens Library Card.

 

[Janus]

Unfortunately we're holding a 2, a 4, the 7 of Swords, an expired Motorcycle Learner's Permit and a West Torrens Library Card.

Funny you picked that card, it being the card of deception and cunning...

 

[Powerade 08]

Cripps is going on trade radio soon to do damage control, we've got nothing else lined up.

They are going to shit on him for doing the pick swap and not being able to trade Lobbe and Hartlett.

If there was anything else in the works, he'd hold off on doing an interview till he has something positive to talk about.

 

[Shaxx Attaxx]

So should we all call up trade radio and have a chat to old mate Cripps?

 

[raman]

You don't do trades just to "break even". Therefore I'm with you. Have a feeling we're playing our cards very close to our chest as we work on something bigger. It may not be JOM, but I sense something is going on.

I'm usually on board with this type of optimism but this time, I dunno...

 

[Janus]

Hawthorn is about to walk away from negotiating with Gold Coast. The game is afoot.

 

[Lagooner]

Funny you picked that card, it being the card of deception and cunning...

Sorry mate it's a 7 of Swords from the Italian playing card deck. It has the deceptive aptitude of a panther in the snow.

 

[Steve Dore]

The Jonas contract may have been a strategic ploy to divert attention from the day's trading activity.

It's worked a treat in this thread.

I haven't seen any thing official from the club on Yonas's new contract so if this is an attempt by the club to divert the supporter base from yesterday's trade deal they are playing it very low key.

 

[slvr tl blk wht]

And if we win the spoon?

We have got just as much chance of finish top 2 as finishing bottom. Jeeze everyone in here loves to complain about anything and everything.

 

[snozulu]

well i remember someone saying trengove signed a contract extension not so long ago and have heard nothing since so maybe the jonas one is a hoax. 1 year imo is enough for him.

 

[DaTBird187]

I've just come up with a new theory that could explain exactly why we did what we did yesterday.

Chris Davies and Jason Cripps kept banging on and on about how according to the draft index, 19 and 30 being the equivalent of pick 8.

Who has pick 8 right now? Gold Coast.

But the thing is, Gold Coast already HAD pick 30, and they aren't going to accept their own pick back with 19 for 8 (and I don't think you're allowed to do that anyway). Which is why we are looking to upgrade 30 to an earlier second round pick...then we can trade Ah Chee and that pick (say 25 from Carlton) with 19 to Gold Coast for 8 and 27.

"But Janus," you cry. "Why would Gold Coast want to lose 8 and 27 for Ah Chee, 19 and 25?!"

Now we come to the real heart of the deal, which involves O'Meara, Hawthorn and Bowes.

At the moment, Essendon and GWS won't bid for Bowes. I believe now the Hanley deal is done, Brisbane won't either, having a gentlemen's agreement with Gold Coast not to bid. Pick 4 is Gold Coast's, and they will bid on the highest ranked GWS academy kid to ensure GWS wastes Pick 5, which Carlton will trade to GWS for Marchbank and 15.

Gold Coast will then have 6 from Richmond for Prestia. Again, they don't want to take Bowes because why would you if you can get him cheaper and pay him less (salary is tied to draft position)? So they select someone else, knowing they have the picks to get Bowes at any time.

Fremantle is next with 7...but they don't bid on Bowes either.

Then comes 8 and 9 - and the agreement we have with Gold Coast not to bid on Bowes.

With 8, we select Taranto.

With 9, we select O'Meara - which was the plan all along. See, I believe that O'Meara chose Hawthorn as his destination, not because he wanted to go there, but because he promised his girlfriend that they would move to Melbourne even though he didn't really want to go. So he selected the one club he knew had no way possible of getting the deal done without trading out star players who didn't want to move.

That's why Hinkley visited the Gold Coast during the season. That's why Hinkley and Dixon met with O'Meara recently. It's why we are looking for another second round pick.

Of course, Hawthorn will select Bowes with 10 to try and stick it up Gold Coast, but since the difference between 10 and 19 is a measly 250 points with the discount, it's not going to matter to Gold Coast. They'll get a top ten talent for the equivalent of a second round pick...and everyone is happy.

Except Hawthorn, of course.

 

[Honeyboy Wilson]

On Janus' theory...

*insert Billy Madison judge dude*

 

[Enviable Tradition]

Suggested trade on Drafts board for hartlett.

Give you
11+Black
For
19+Hartlett+44

We take his full contract and pay 1/2 of Blacks for 2017
?

Even ifbwe generously say Black is worth 44.

That leaves Hartlett and 19 for 11.

Valuing Hartlett at 381 points.

Or pick 43.

Sounds better than yesterday [emoji2]

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[PepeSilvia]

I did the stats based only on his games as ruck.

He averaged 8 clr 7 tkls and 18 posessions In his ruck games no other ruckmen got near these numbers as a whole granted he lost in taps. Inconsistent yes but what do you expect given the circumstances.

Numbers are a fair way off.

6.6 clearances per game, 5.2 tackles per game and 17.5 disposals per game.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

We exist to help other teams get trades done
#poortpower

So long as we almost break even...

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[Enviable Tradition]

Even if we generously say Black is worth 44.

That leaves Hartlett and 19 for 11.

Valuing Hartlett at 381 points.

Or pick 43.

Sounds better than yesterday [emoji2]

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[slvr tl blk wht]

purple headed warrior is saying deledio to GWS

 

[Adz2332]

KPFs Out: Schulz, Butcher
KPFs In: -

Ports KPF Depth Chart - Dixon and Neade

inb4 Dixon does his ankle in pre-season and goes on the the LTI, Ryder plays full forward and Lobbe rucks for the season

Maybe we could ask Brett Ebert if he wants a run in the forwardline again?

How is it the list managers, coaches or ken himself doesnt see this and dont want to trade in someone! black? Vardy? hell even Witts?
We gambled with rucks last year. it didnt work. now we are doing it again but with forwards. crazy!

 

[Seanybruz]

Hawthorn is about to walk away from negotiating with Gold Coast. The game is afoot.

9 & Ah Chee for O'Meara just for them to spite Hawthorn would be a deal I could probably get behind.

As long as we don't cough up anymore than that and can get his body right otherwise it's still a massive gamble.

 

[chiwigi]

I've just come up with a new theory that could explain exactly why we did what we did yesterday.

Chris Davies and Jason Cripps kept banging on and on about how according to the draft index, 19 and 30 being the equivalent of pick 8.

Who has pick 8 right now? Gold Coast.

But the thing is, Gold Coast already HAD pick 30, and they aren't going to accept their own pick back with 19 for 8 (and I don't think you're allowed to do that anyway). Which is why we are looking to upgrade 30 to an earlier second round pick...then we can trade Ah Chee and that pick (say 25 from Carlton) with 19 to Gold Coast for 8 and 27.

"But Janus," you cry. "Why would Gold Coast want to lose 8 and 27 for Ah Chee, 19 and 25?!"

Now we come to the real heart of the deal, which involves O'Meara, Hawthorn and Bowes.

At the moment, Essendon and GWS won't bid for Bowes. I believe now the Hanley deal is done, Brisbane won't either, having a gentlemen's agreement with Gold Coast not to bid. Pick 4 is Gold Coast's, and they will bid on the highest ranked GWS academy kid to ensure GWS wastes Pick 5, which Carlton will trade to GWS for Marchbank and 15.

Gold Coast will then have 6 from Richmond for Prestia. Again, they don't want to take Bowes because why would you if you can get him cheaper and pay him less (salary is tied to draft position)? So they select someone else, knowing they have the picks to get Bowes at any time.

Fremantle is next with 7...but they don't bid on Bowes either.

Then comes 8 and 9 - and the agreement we have with Gold Coast not to bid on Bowes.

With 8, we select Taranto.

With 9, we select O'Meara - which was the plan all along. See, I believe that O'Meara chose Hawthorn as his destination, not because he wanted to go there, but because he promised his girlfriend that they would move to Melbourne even though he didn't really want to go. So he selected the one club he knew had no way possible of getting the deal done without trading out star players who didn't want to move.

That's why Hinkley visited the Gold Coast during the season. That's why Hinkley and Dixon met with O'Meara recently. It's why we are looking for another second round pick.

Of course, Hawthorn will select Bowes with 10 to try and stick it up Gold Coast, but since the difference between 10 and 19 is a measly 250 points with the discount, it's not going to matter to Gold Coast. They'll get a top ten talent for the equivalent of a second round pick...and everyone is happy.

Except Hawthorn, of course.

Awesome!

If that comes true you will deserve your own TV show.