Analysis 2016 AFL Trade Week Thread

[Steve Dore]

Will need to consult the calculator on this one.

The calculator's battery has gone flat and CD forgot to bring the charger.

 

[Harro59]

Bloody hell this thread is melting down. Christ lets set fire now to the city and be done with it.

 

[Chrizzt]

So does O'Meara go to the ND or the PSD if the trade doesn't go through? I thought it was the ND but people keep talking about him getting picked up in the PSD.

 

[FallingLiefs]

So does O'Meara go to the ND or the PSD if the trade doesn't go through? I thought it was the ND but people keep talking about him getting picked up in the PSD.

can't go PSD because he physically won't get past essendon.

 

[El Zorro]

If GC accept pick 10 and AhChee (say Hawthorn give us pick 48 to enable this) for O'Meara, then why the hell weren't we busting our gut to get O'Meara for 9 and AhChee?

Salary cap?

Injury concerns?

O'Meara prefers Hawthorn over Ports?

 

[Lightning_Rod]

Did any one else hear the nick stevens story kane just told on trade radio?

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[chiwigi]

Did any one else hear the nick stevens story kane just told on trade radio?

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No, elaborate please.

 

[Steve Dore]

can't go PSD because he physically won't get past essendon.

How does that work?

Edit: I have read conflicting media reports, some say he must go into the PSD and others saying he can go in the ND

 

[Chrizzt]

can't go PSD because he physically won't get past essendon.

That doesn't answer my question.

 

[Lightning_Rod]

In the collingwood final in 03 he was tackled by a pies player and said to the player "why are you tackling me, im going to be playing with you next year" apparently it filtered through the group and he was essentially dead to them at that point.

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[FallingLiefs]

That doesn't answer my question.

it's undecided is the answer then.

can take safe road to essendon or hard road to maybe hawthorn.

 

[snozulu]

Gold Coast interview went over, don't think he's going back on.

I think you are right. no sign of him. Turning radio off now

 

[Chrizzt]

Ok so it looks like you only go to the PSD if you don't get picked in the ND, or if you are delisted after the ND.
Given that O'Meara is out of contract now, he has to go through the ND not the PSD. Therefore this idea that Essendon hold the great trump card is incorrect.

 

[NEGAN]

I think JOM is a massive risk.

Wasn't he 2 years out with knee?

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

I did the stats based only on his games as ruck.

He averaged 8 clr 7 tkls and 18 posessions In his ruck games no other ruckmen got near these numbers as a whole granted he lost in taps. Inconsistent yes but what do you expect given the circumstances.

The fact he even had 2 games with 13 and 15 clearances is enough to convince me its enough to persist with. We were all shitting bricks about Lobbe and his tackles in 2014.

Getting touched up by Max Gawn in your make shift role as ruck in your first year there is no shame in that. As you stated he smashed Goldstein etc..

What he produced would have at least 14 other teams salivating at the prospect of what he can achieve with a preseason rucking plus a ruck coach not to mention a fresh Paddy as his wingman.The other 3 teams have Goldstien Nic Nat and Gawn.

His ruck performance this season went fairly unoticed and I thank god that it has been criminally underrated.

If he can learn the art of rucking and tapping he would average the AFL's version of a tripple Double.

Where did you get your clearance stats from?? Lobbe was the ruckmen from rds 1 to 5 and 21 to 23 and Jacko was suspended for Rd 6 and Howard rucked so Jack was the main ruckman between rds 7 to rd 20 ie 13 games as the bye was in that batch of games. He got 93 clearances for the year 8 when he wasnt the main man and 85 in 13 games is an average of 6.5 and closer to what the best ruckmen get rather than be a ruck clearance machine. he got 8 or more clearances in rd 7-13, rd 12 -8, rd 18 -9 and rd 19-15. See his stats at

http://afltables.com/afl/stats/players/J/Jackson_Trengove.html

 

[TheBeardAmigos]

I think JOM is a massive risk.

Wasn't he 2 years out with knee?

yep, ruptured patella tendon

 

[FallingLiefs]

Ok so it looks like you only go to the PSD if you don't get picked in the ND, or if you are delisted after the ND.
Given that O'Meara is out of contract now, he has to go through the ND not the PSD. Therefore this idea that Essendon hold the great trump card is incorrect.

no



PSD is a seperate entity. for players under 18, they can't opt to go to the PSD for players on lists they can.

 

[Fifty]

So Burton is better than the players available at pick 19?

Just asking

IMHO yes. Plus he is a perfect structural fit for our needs. Ideal long term shulzy replacement

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[mic59]

Melbourne get Hibberd and 59 for 29 and 68. Melbourne don't enter the draft till pick number 57, 1 later than we did in 2014 when our first pick was Dougal Howard at 56.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-19/essendon-defender-michael-hibberd-traded-to-melbourne

 

[LFC2010]

Melbourne get Hibberd and 59 for 29 and 68. Melbourne don't enter the draft till pick number 57, 1 later than we did in 2014 when our first pick was Dougal Howard at 56.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-10-19/essendon-defender-michael-hibberd-traded-to-melbourne

Melbourne being "aggressive" at the table. P Cripps and C Davies should take notes on how to be aggressive at the table.

 

[NEGAN]

yep, ruptured patella tendon

Do you believe he is worth it?

 

[Chrizzt]

no

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PSD is a seperate entity. for players under 18, they can't opt to go to the PSD for players on lists they can.

Not quite:

AFL Draft Booklet

If I did not nominate for the NAB AFL Draft in November, can I then nominate for the NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft?
No, because part of the eligibility criteria for the NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft is that a player must have been eligible for, but not selected at, the NAB AFL Draft. The only exception is a player who has been delisted from the Primary List by an AFL Club, who can stipulate if their nomination form is to be held over for the Pre-Season Draft.

 

[mic59]

Melbourne being "aggressive" at the table. P Cripps and C Davies should take notes on how to be aggressive at the table.

Agree. When I got your answer to my post I was about to edit that we would get our pants pulled down if we tried that trade. Our entire recruiting staff should be renamed Roger.

 

[TheBeardAmigos]

Do you believe he is worth it?

worth 700k? NO WAY!
id give him 300k max and then if he comes good, give him more money.
huge risk Hawks are taking.

if we did get him, knowing us we would give him a 10 year contract worth 800k a year...

 

[Leaveit2charlie]

Not quite:

AFL Draft Booklet

Doesn't that only apply to players who have never been listed?