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Think O'Brien is ahead of him for that spot, believe one of the hawthorn players (Roughead?) said it in an interview
Different players.

Howe's a rebounding defender whilst O'Brien is a key forward.
 
Different players.

Howe's a rebounding defender whilst O'Brien is a key forward.
The players seem to speak positively about Howe getting game time but he didn't seem to cope well yesterday under a fast moving ball. I don't think Hawthorn will rush him in, they have plenty of options down back. Gibson, Frawley, Stratton, Duryea, Birchall, Burgoyne, Hodge, Litherland, Hartung, Whitecross, Mitchell rested down back last year, Gunstan at times went to half back last year. I'd think if all those guys are already in the 22, maybe not Litherland, then it's going to be hard for Howe to get a go in there.
 
Depends, my d4 spot is between aish, seedsman and Hampton at the moment
Cheap on a D4, what kinda scores are you expecting from that position then? At the moment I'm Boyd, Laird, Bartel, Pittard and Whitecross. Looks like you've taken a very different approach to it.
 
Cheap on a D4, what kinda scores are you expecting from that position then? At the moment I'm Boyd, Laird, Bartel, Pittard and Whitecross. Looks like you've taken a very different approach to it.
Never spend big in the back line personally. I'm a sucker for mid-priced bargains (Libs, Crouch,parish)
 
Never spend big in the back line personally. I'm a sucker for mid-priced bargains (Libs, Crouch,parish)
Libba is my only mid pricer. I had them, get burnt every year, picking someone to "potentially break out" is a lot harder than picking a proven scorer. A team of mid pricers will always look better than a team of guns and rookies but in practice they never work out.
 
Libba is my only mid pricer. I had them, get burnt every year, picking someone to "potentially break out" is a lot harder than picking a proven scorer. A team of mid pricers will always look better than a team of guns and rookies but in practice they never work out.
I only have 5 mid-pricers. I know that's a lot for some but libs, crouch, de goey, aish and parish are pretty good
 
Are you two both femsle? With that rack, who cares about that voice or that IQ? In fact the voice and the IQ could enhance the experience.
Ah Hawthorn supporters- such high expectations for their team, but such low standards for their women.
 

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I only have 5 mid-pricers. I know that's a lot for some but libs, crouch, de goey, aish and parish are pretty good
Parish is still classified as rookie price because he is under 220 but I see you point. Personally I wouldn't be running with Crouch and Aish if you have De Goey. I'm assuming that Crouch is your M6? If you dropped him to Mills or a rookie you could start upgrading Aish to a more reliable pick at D4. I only say this because if Aish doesn't fire early you're gonna be stuck for options. That's why I've gone Whitecross at D5 and not at D4. I have no doubt he could come in and average 85+ but if he doesn't it's nice to know that you haven't messed your whole season up on taking a risk.
 
Are you two both femsle? With that rack, who cares about that voice or that IQ? In fact the voice and the IQ could enhance the experience.
All you'd need is a cattle prod and some rope.
Squeal little piggie, squeal.
 

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Parish is still classified as rookie price because he is under 220 but I see you point. Personally I wouldn't be running with Crouch and Aish if you have De Goey. I'm assuming that Crouch is your M6? If you dropped him to Mills or a rookie you could start upgrading Aish to a more reliable pick at D4. I only say this because if Aish doesn't fire early you're gonna be stuck for options. That's why I've gone Whitecross at D5 and not at D4. I have no doubt he could come in and average 85+ but if he doesn't it's nice to know that you haven't messed your whole season up on taking a risk.
Crouch is my M7. I don't know who to upgrade to for aish though
 
Crouch is my M7. I don't know who to upgrade to for aish though
Make a list of who you think the top 15 defenders will be at the end of the season and pick from one of those.

Jeeze you've spent a lot of money on your mids then
 
Anyone looking at Jason Johannisen? Doggies supporters, thoughts on JJ?
I think that he's a solid pick and someone who could definitely improve on last year, scored 4 100's last year so he's capable but with Boyd and Murphy still going strong it'll be hard for him to maintain 90s every game enough for him to be a keeper, it looks as if Stevens has also moved to the similar role, Biggs was also there last year. It could be a Hawthorn situation where they all average about the same, or like it was last year, 2 of them doing the majority of the scoring and the rest chipping in when needed.
 
Update: Most popular defenders as at 28 February 2016:

1. M.Brown (Ess) (48%)
2. Aish (24%)
3. Shaw (23%)
4. Smith (20%)
5. Yeo (20%)
6. Bartel (16%)
7. Francis (16%)
8. Weitering (15%)
9. Broad (14%) on the rise
10. K.Kolodjashnij (14%)
11. Hartley (14%)
12. Bonner (13%)
13. McVeigh (13%)
14. Rich (12%)
15. Rance (12%)
16. K.Collins (12%)
17. M.Brown (WC) (12%)
18. Malceski (11%) on the nose
19. Hibberd (NM) (11%)
20. Suckling (11%)
anyone care to speculate why Malcheski is on the nose? Seems like value to me.
 
The players seem to speak positively about Howe getting game time but he didn't seem to cope well yesterday under a fast moving ball. I don't think Hawthorn will rush him in, they have plenty of options down back. Gibson, Frawley, Stratton, Duryea, Birchall, Burgoyne, Hodge, Litherland, Hartung, Whitecross, Mitchell rested down back last year, Gunstan at times went to half back last year. I'd think if all those guys are already in the 22, maybe not Litherland, then it's going to be hard for Howe to get a go in there.

Gunston wont be going back with no Roughead available . ..a bizarre call
Suckling gone
Lake gone
Hale gone
Ruffy out for 6 months

Their team will move and adjust and there will be 4 players playing to join the rest.
Howe played last year in 4 games and his DE was the best of every hawk for 2015.
He'll be given his chances early in 2016 both as a mid and a def. His kicking is elite and he's done his hawk apprenticeship
 
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