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TheSheik said:
Exactly, which is why he is pumping up the tyres on the first 40 candidates.

If we look closely at him, Kevin Sheehan has probably written his script for him too.
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I never take any notice of what Sheehan says. Would much rather read/listen to Emma Quayle.
 

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Old navy said:
Think another high quality small forward would be on there list of needs.
They have Devon Smith who is a gun, but not much in the way of back up.
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Ainsworth?

They topped up with inside mids last year having taken Hopper & Kennedy....adding to Shiel, Ward, Steele, Scully...
They may keep drafting them but at least they may feel that the locals are less likely to want to leave.

Classy outside mids? Kelly, Whitfield, Griffen, Coniglio, Pickett, Ahern.........
They really don't need any more mids other than to keep developing the ones they have.........and to keep them.

Now they have Setterfield & Perryman available to them also.

Can we see a situation where they don't go for the Academy talent?
 
TheSheik said:
Age shmage !!

Do they honestly bring something to our list that we don't already have ??

Are they sufficiently talented enough to warrant being traded for ??

How much potential upside do they have ??

If you can answer those questions then you will be able to work out whether they are worth trading for. My immediate feel is that Steele would be a good get but the other two not.
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I was under the impression Marchbank is a potential 200game KPD that would enable Weitering to play as the 3rd tall in the future...
 
HARKER said:
Ainsworth?

They topped up with inside mids last year having taken Hopper & Kennedy....adding to Shiel, Ward, Steele, Scully...
They may keep drafting them but at least they may feel that the locals are less likely to want to leave.
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Steele is from Canberra and would be considered a local so why is he being moved on?
 
BluStreak said:
Steele is from Canberra and would be considered a local so why is he being moved on?
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I know. I was referring to this years draft.

It will be very interesting as to which way GWS go this year.........very interesting.
If for instance they get close to, or play in a Grand Final, would they be better served to plug up any possible holes with mature players?

They still have a truck load of talent that is either currently injured, or just not able to break into the team.
Do they want more players that will be fighting for the same spots and just playing out musical chairs..........or do they focus on giving themselves a list that can capture a flag or two in the short term?

I feel that they're going to go for it now and not just settle for being a top 8 team. It's so easy for them to do this and makes very good commercial sense.
 
TheSheik said:
Exactly, which is why he is pumping up the tyres on the first 40 candidates.

If we look closely at him, Kevin Sheehan has probably written his script for him too.
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I have always thought the scepticism about people working with the academy is a little unfair.
From what I have seen, every year these guys give their rating, usually described as how far deep the real talent runs, and it does tend to vary each year. Last year I think they said the top 10 was very good, and then it levelled out quite early, around 25.
Whereas this year they are saying it levels out at around 40.

I remember when Andrew Walker went at 2, and Shifter said that Andrew will take the longest to come on (of the top ten) because he was more athlete first than footballer. Seems a fairly sincere, accurate summation to me.

Are you sure you're not trying to LOOK the expert here SHiek ??
 
rp84 said:
I was under the impression Marchbank is a potential 200game KPD that would enable Weitering to play as the 3rd tall in the future...
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That is one part with trading for Marchbank that really is tempting.
With Plowman Weitering and Marchbank in the same backline.
That would give us some serious rebounding power from defensive 50.
 
HARKER said:
Ainsworth?

They topped up with inside mids last year having taken Hopper & Kennedy....adding to Shiel, Ward, Steele, Scully...
They may keep drafting them but at least they may feel that the locals are less likely to want to leave.

Classy outside mids? Kelly, Whitfield, Griffen, Coniglio, Pickett, Ahern.........
They really don't need any more mids other than to keep developing the ones they have.........and to keep them.

Now they have Setterfield & Perryman available to them also.

Can we see a situation where they don't go for the Academy talent?
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It's more of a crumming type small forward that they are lacking.
Don't think there is one of very high quality in this draft.
 

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1981 said:
I have always thought the scepticism about people working with the academy is a little unfair.
From what I have seen, every year these guys give their rating, usually described as how far deep the real talent runs, and it does tend to vary each year. Last year I think they said the top 10 was very good, and then it levelled out quite early, around 25.
Whereas this year they are saying it levels out at around 40.

I remember when Andrew Walker went at 2, and Shifter said that Andrew will take the longest to come on (of the top ten) because he was more athlete first than footballer. Seems a fairly sincere, accurate summation to me.

Are you sure you're not trying to LOOK the expert here SHiek ??
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i am sure sheehan is very knowledgable and knows what he is doing. i think the point is you cant always trust what they say. understandably they would be biased or slant things to suit their position
 
Well my attention has now turned to this thread after losing the past 3 games and finals being out of the equation. I'm expecting Gold Coast and Freo to go past us and for us to finish 3rd last. If anything Freo may be too far back and we finish 4th last.

I haven't been into it so far but I hear there's no stand out first pick which I imagine bodes well for us at around pick 3-4.

Does anyone know if any academy players are tipped to go in the first few picks pushing us down the order? Any whispers on what we might be looking for with our first pick?

Update - Not good that Knightmares phantom draft has 4 of his 5 picks being academy players -

http://www.espn.com.au/afl/story/_/id/15839175/june
 
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Soapy V said:
i am sure sheehan is very knowledgable and knows what he is doing. i think the point is you cant always trust what they say. understandably they would be biased or slant things to suit their position
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Understand and accept that, but my point still stands - every year the view of the depth of the draft, in so far as genuine quality, is different, so it stands to reason the experts are on the whole giving us a fair summary of the relative depth of each draft
 
I'll go out on a limb and say that I think the top 6-8 (including academy) players from last year's draft, would all go ahead of all but a small handful available this year, and half of the latter are also academy players. Depth is the key this year.
 
Pafloyul said:
I'll go out on a limb and say that I think the top 6-8 (including academy) players from last year's draft, would all go ahead of all but a small handful available this year, and half of the latter are also academy players. Depth is the key this year.
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Weitering - Definitely
Schache - Definitely
Mills - Definitely
Oliver - Quite possibly
Parish - Good chance
Francis - Possibly
Hopper - Quite possibly
Ah Chee - Doubt it

You never know for sure, but it's possible that this years player doesn't come into the picture until pick #8
 
So I was thinking.

Trade pick 5 + 41 + 49 to GC for 21 +22 +29 + 59

We end up with picks 21,22,23,29 + 59 they get 30 more points

It also probably means they can use 4/5 on Bowes, 9 on Scheer and have a pick left over for another first rounder. Maybe trade into next years draft.

If the draft is fairly even out to 30 this gives a lot more bites at the apple.
 
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