Analysis 2016 Draft...

[Sanders]

It worked in 2015

When Jenkins goes into the ruck, Sauce rests forward, anyway

Jenkins rucked a lot less in 2015 than he did in 2016

 

[Sanders]

Who do you like sanders ?

Scrimshaw

 

[Captain Furious]

Anyone else think the club will use their pick 13 to draft a player that none of us have been talking about? similar to last year with what they did when they picked up Tom Doedee? I am expecting massive backlash and a meltdown if we don't pick up one of the mids we have all been hoping for.
Brodie (doubt he will be there at 13)
Taranto (doubt he will be there at 13)
Berry
Venables
Gallucci
Florent (maybe, ive heard that he isn't too keen on leaving Victoria)

Wouldn't it be nice if Jack Graham got through to our pick 43!

I seriously doubt it. Feel there's been a much wider pool of players talked about this year.

Zero chance on Taranto. Brodie looking more possible by the day. Won't take Graham at 43 even if he's there if we take Brodie.

Will throw up in my mouth a little bit if we take Gallucci. Dumb if we take Florent - go home factor overload.

 

[Sanders]

Why was it predicted a week(?) out that we'd bid on Himmelberg?

it wasn't

 

[Danger in Texas]

it wasn't

I'm almost certain BA tweeted it was a possibility around a week out.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Jenkins rucked a lot less in 2015 than he did in 2016

Don't see how we couldn't adjust so that Jenkins gets less ruck minutes if one of the four goes down?

 

[Sanders]

I'm almost certain BA tweeted it was a possibility around a week out.

1 person speculating loosely about a possibility, isn't "it was predicted".

 

[JimmyTheScoop]

Scrimshaw

Oh gee, thanks for that. Haven't watched any footage as I thought he would be well gone by our pick. Great size, and lovely left foot.

Imagine if either Brodie or Scrimshaw are available at our pick!! Surely I am dreaming.


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[Danger in Texas]

1 person speculating loosely about a possibility, isn't "it was predicted".

Okay, if you're arguing about technicalities, predicted is probably the wrong word. The rumour was definitely there, though - people knew about it.

 

[StonesThrow]

Our drafting history is pretty grim reading pre 2008 with Dangerfield gone.

 

[Sanders]

Okay, if you're arguing about technicalities, predicted is probably the wrong word. The rumour was definitely there, though - people knew about it.

they really didn't.

it was a very last minute thing, and then no one thought GWS would match

 

[DangerSloane]

1 person speculating loosely about a possibility, isn't "it was predicted".

Actually it is Sanders.
If one person said its going to happen, thats called a prediction.

prediction
prɪˈdɪkʃ(ə)n/
noun

1. a thing predicted; a forecast.

 

[Danger in Texas]

they really didn't.

it was a very last minute thing, and then no one thought GWS would match

It definitely wasn't last minute.

 

[Sanders]

It definitely wasn't last minute.

yeah, you might want to focus more on accuracy over quantity

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Scrimshaw

You brilliant man - he's my pick too out of anyone who is remotely possible

Scrimshaw > Hayward > Brodie > daylight

Then

Venables > SPP > Berry > Simpkin/C Cox/ Galluci

 

[JimmyTheScoop]

Do you guys rate Perryman? And where will he go? (Academy player I believe).


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[Big Gazoongas]

You brilliant man - he's my pick too out of anyone who is remotely possible

Scrimshaw > Hayward > Brodie > daylight

Then

Venables > SPP > Berry > Simpkin/C Cox/ Galluci

You'd take Scrimshaw with first pick? Is he that much better than us going for a pure mid?

 

[Danger in Texas]

yeah, you might want to focus more on accuracy over quantity

Yeah thanks mate, except for the fact that I'm very sure I'm accurate

 

[Danger in Texas]

You'd take Scrimshaw with first pick? Is he that must better than us going for a pure mid?

Personally not as high on him as some others on here are. His midfield potential to me is a bit less clear than some others, but if he does become a wingman, he'll be a very, very good one.

 

[Mismatched]

I seriously doubt it. Feel there's been a much wider pool of players talked about this year.

Zero chance on Taranto. Brodie looking more possible by the day. Won't take Graham at 43 even if he's there if we take Brodie.

Will throw up in my mouth a little bit if we take Gallucci. Dumb if we take Florent - go home factor overload.

What's your concerns with Gallucci? I'm certainly not trying to pass myself off as an expert on these things at all, but for mine I think he has a lot going for him and has genuine high level potential.

 

[knobby]

Do you guys rate Perryman? And where will he go? (Academy player I believe).


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when I see this I think

Dont rate the Perryman, Dont even ask his price

maybe I'm showing my age

 

[Bicks]

Good analysis of last year's draftees
Here's the ones after our first pick who were likely in the mix to be taken:

Pick 14: Eric Hipwood
Progressed quicker than many thought, and alongside Schache gave Lions supporters hope in a bleak season. Needs to add strength to his lanky frame, but marks the ball strongly overhead and is a thumping kick. Should get more chances next season.

Pick 15: Daniel Rioli
Played 18 games and kicked 13 goals in a debut season that set a strong foundation for his future as a small forward. Will work on increasing fitness base and should attack his second season with confidence.

Pick 16: Harrison Himmelburg (we bid for)
Drafted as a forward, Himmelberg relished a switch into defence in the 2016 pre-season and averaged 21.7 possessions a game in the NEAFL, before earning his senior debut across half-back in round 17 last season. He looked right at home in his four senior games, where he averaged 13.2 disposals a match playing in defence.

Pick 17: Tom Doedee (we picked)
Showed his versatility as a defender in the SANFL being able to play on small and tall forwards. An outstanding competitor and is fearless when the ball is up for grabs. Has drawn comparisons to Crows teammate Kyle Cheney

Pick 18: Jade Gresham
The small forward impressed in his debut year, playing 18 games and showing the skills to eventually move into the midfield. Perhaps his biggest issue will be building his tank, but once he does that, Gresham's skill, toughness and elusiveness will make him a star.

Pick 19: Ryan Burton
Missed most of the year with a leg injury, but made a late comeback, making his AFL debut in round 21. Played four senior games, including the qualifying final loss to Geelong. Was drafted as a forward but looked composed in defence against Pies. Will play regularly in 2017.

Pick 20: Brayden Fiorini
Injury curtailed much of his year, but the midfielder showed in the final round against Port Adelaide exactly what he was capable of with 32 disposals and two goals.

Pick 21: Ben McKay
The strong-marking key forward came on nicely at Werribee, booting 15 goals in 15 games. Has signed until 2019 and should be in the mix for a senior debut next season, especially if he starts finding more of the ball in general play.

Pick 22: Kieran Lovell
Managed two senior games in his first season and didn't look out of place in the midfield. Needs to work on his consistency, and his kicking efficiency requires improvement. Proven ball-winner who will get plenty of opportunity next year.

Pick 23: David Cuningham
Hip issues meant the midfielder had an interrupted year but he played the final three games of the season. Cuningham can win his own ball and his burst from the contest is impressive. If he sharpens up his decision-making, he could push for a regular spot in the senior team next season.

Pick 24: Ben Keays
Managed 16 games and was used primarily as a small forward. Has a good defensive mindset, and as he gets fitter Keays will spend more time in the midfield, although earning a spot there will be tough.

Pick 25: Josh Dunkley
After being overlooked by the Swans as a father-son recruit, the 19-year-old inside midfielder went on to notch 17 games and play in a premiership. Kicking is the only knock on his impressive game at the moment.

Pick 26: Kieran Collins
The hulking key defender spent the majority of 2016 impressing at VFL level, but managed to make his debut in round nine. While the club is happy with his development, he'll need to improve his agility.

Pick 27: Darcy Tucker
Playing 12 games in 2016 was a terrific result for the midfielder, who finished the year with 22 possessions against the Western Bulldogs. Will be a permanent midfield fixture in 2017 as the club promotes youth.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-11-19/a-year-on-how-your-clubs-2015-draftees-fared

Looks like I was off with my assessment of Darcy Tucker in last year's draft crop, I note the word Midfielder there even though he played a lot of his junior footy across half back......

Let's hope that the half back we did eventually settle on Tom Doedee can also transition into the midfield too next year.

 

[DangerSloane]

Do you guys rate Perryman? And where will he go? (Academy player I believe).


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Perrymans bakery... Hells yes.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

You'd take Scrimshaw with first pick? Is he that much better than us going for a pure mid?

Id take him ahead of the others mentioned and first of the guys that may be a chance to be at our pick

Has scope to play midfield and would open the game up with his elite kicking and being a left footer off half back at 193-194 cm

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Do you guys rate Perryman? And where will he go? (Academy player I believe).


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Very solid no thrills , good skill level especially kick on both sides . Versatile and can play half back , mid and forward . Tough

Is slow and will prob get bid on around our pick or either side of IMO