Opinion 2016 Leadership Group and Coaching Changes

[Smartys Power]

God give me Roos any day of the week. If Roos' year is a 1/10 given the talent in their team I don't know if I can give ken a rating

Aannnd I'm done with this thread.

 

[TeeKray]

The margins in footy can be small sometimes. Despite the hardest draw in the history of humans, we're going to finish 12-10 which is the same number of wins as 2013 and only two short of 2014. We've had some disappointing losses this year but we had some disappointing losses last year too. Perception v reality can be a long way apart sometimes.

Our year has been disappointing. We have not improved as we thought we would and in some areas we have gone backwards. But it's not a disaster zone. It's not as if we've halved our win tally, forgotten how to play football, won a handful of games against bad teams and been thumped every other week. The OP is obviously off the chain but I think it would pay for us all to realise that whilst this year has been disappointing, we haven't been miles off the pace and we still have plenty to look forward to.

 

[dinger]

If possible could this not be moved to a thread where it is not seen and just hidden away, I know you guys like doing that because you don’t like facing the issues but it would be appreciated if you could just leave my posts for once. This is a public forum.

What went wrong in 2015? I am going to aggravate people on here because 90% of you are precious and too passionate about the club to see through what has really happened this year. I would like to say that I have been a passionate Port supporter myself since I was old enough to go to the football, so although I am harsh I do love the club and want to see us succeed HOWEVER if we all sit around say nothing is wrong and shit we will just “get it right” next year to quote Ken, we will be back sitting here next year out of contention for the flag. Realistically this year was a very good year for us to push for the flag, no team is overly strong and we seem to trouble Hawthorn, hopefully the same happens next year. Anyway let’s take a look on what has gone wrong.

Now it is easy just to slam the kids coming in or blame the middle tier players like Ken did for the poor year but I really don’t think that is our issue. To be successful in anything you need to be lead well, on and off the field. I can’t see what happens off the field but I can comment on the performance of the leadership group and the coaching staff on the field and at the selection table.


2015 Leadership Group

Mark /10 is based on what they are capable of in terms of performance. 10 being their best they can be.

Travis Boak: 6/10
Travis has had an OKAY year, I won’t rubbish him as much as I want to but he’s had some good games and he’s definitely had some very ordinary games. Unfortunately what we talk about is a 4 quarter effort and I really don’t think Travis has put many of these in this year. His last quarters are always outstanding and that saves him from the criticism but unfortunately this year his last quarters have come too late. This year we’ve hardly see Travis break through a pack or break a line, he’s just not the same player as last year. To me he is lacking in confidence and it is showing in his leadership on the field. He needs to lift 2016.

Brad Ebert: 6/10
Had a good start to the year but it has rapidly declined into a rather average year of football from Ebo. His kicking has really let him down this year and I think he needs to go away and address it over the off season. I think he’s stood up at times but not enough, not as much as last year.

Matthew Lobbe: 2/10
Quite frankly didn’t deserve his place in the team after about 5 games however, I will address the selection later. Lobbe has quickly turned into a very unco looking player who can’t move around the ground. He has hardly took a mark this year and obviously has not lead from the front at all. Poor year, very poor year.

Tom Jonas: 2/10
Have to put Tommy in the same category as Lobbes here, he has just not been anywhere near AFL standard this year. Tommy looks like he is on the same stuff as Lobbe, looks slow and awkward when he runs. Tommy has never been the best kick and it’s been masked in previous years but it was completely on display this year for everyone to see. You cannot play defence in the modern game with a kick like that. Defensively Jonas is clumsy and has given away too many stupid free kicks. Also should not have been in the team after about round 5.

Jackson Trengove: 5/10
Obviously an injury interrupted year so that is why the mark is low, I don’t think Jackson has been bad when he has played but his year is only a 5/10 for me. Has led the defence this year though with Jonas being very down and hasn’t done the worst job. The defence wasn’t a major issue for me this year.

Hamish Hartlett: 5/10
Has somewhat increased his score thanks to a couple good games late on in the season when the pressure is off. I really should have him lower based off his performances when it mattered. Anyway Hammer’s kicking at the start of the year was absolutely awful and It did gradually improve over the year but he is in the team largely due to his kicking, not acceptable. I don’t see Hammer as a leader personally, he does not get to enough contests for me but he does compete well when the ball is around him. Plays much better off the half back line when the ball comes to him. Anyway as a whole, hasn’t lead well for mine and has had a pretty ordinary year. Should have been dropped at some stage as well.

Ollie Wines: 6/10
Ollie gets downgraded a bit on his season mark because of the weeks he missed but overall when he played he was quite good. Unfortunately I don’t know if Ollie is ready to take the load which was not picked up by others in the midfield this year. He is going to be a great leader of the club but it is a lot to ask of a kid when the others leaders are not playing their best footy. Ollie struggled a bit when he came back from injury, hopefully he is back and ready to go next year.

So as a whole the leadership group has been extremely ordinary this year, and the leadership group are the players whom are meant to set the standards for the rest of the team. Why our B grade players are being blamed where here is one of our real problems is beyond me.

My Opinion: I think Lobbe, Jonas and possibly Hartlett should all be taken from the leadership group. Not sure who I would have replace them yet, but they need to focus on their own form.


Coaching Staff

Ken: 1/10
I have addressed what I have been annoyed about with Ken before on this forum and it hasn’t changed, my opinion has just been justified. I will have a quick summary.

Tactically Ken is too stubborn to adapt to the opposition to beat them and instead of blaming himself he is always first to blame the player’s performance rather than his own coaching. THIS is a HORRIBLE trait for a coach and I really hope like hell this changes before the start of next year. “The players will get it right” is Ken’s moto and god help us if this continues.

Kens golden boys is what I call them but this is the group of 18 or so players who are guaranteed a spot in the side no matter how many poor performances they dish up. Jonas, Lobbe, Hartlett, Ebert, Monfries, Pittard, White and probably more have had patches of games this year where they have needed a kick up the ass. Ken has literally waited until the season is over to do this or never even done it. This is not how you build a successful club.

So instead of taking these underperforming golden boys out, we play our young kids out of position and then drop them when they don’t play well, or we give them the vest and drop them when they struggle to get into the game. What a load of crap. Anyway my call to play the kids in their positions has happened and oh look, Gray and Ah Chee have absolutely killed it. What a shame it took to round 21 to do it.

Why a 1/10? Well because I don’t think he has got a single thing right tactically and at the selection table he has failed until the season was lost. I think that is a 1/10.


Voss: 1/10
I can only go on what I see but our midfield group have completely gone backwards this year. Yes we have been bad around the clearances and have not won enough ball on the ground. But what actually is the worst part of our midfields game this year is we have let FAR too many inside 50’s into our defensive 50 and the ease at which teams have got there is just unbelievable. Inside 50’s under no pressure are impossible to defend against and our midfield has failed our defence this year. I also think Vossy has failed us in a sense that he obviously has let Ken get away with what he has done this year and hasn’t challenged him. We need someone else as a senior assistant.

Burgess: 5/10
I don’t believe we’ve run the games out as well this year, I hope this changes next year. Some of the players, Lobbe and Jonas specifically are not moving well. Not much more else to say I don’t know what else going on.

My Opinion: We need to get a new senior assistant. I don’t mind if we keep Voss but we need a strong senior assistant who is a good tactician.

I think our player group as a whole is capable of big things in 2016 under the right leadership and coaching staff. The player group is very talented and their best is unbelievably good but I think there was too many senior players down on form this year. Hopefully we can change it up next year and make top 4.

I am not keen on replying to precious people on here who can't handle criticism of their club and see it through rosey coloured glasses. 2015 was an absolute disappointment and not to change things would be an outrage.

Oh **** off it isn't because people are delicate, its because your opinion is a ridiculous knee jerk reaction as if Ken Hinkley is literally the worst coach to walk this earth. He and the club have not met expectations, but with the ratings and content of this post you're acting like EVERYTHING has gone wrong at the club. We're allowed to criticize it.

 

[rogerjames]

Having to walk home because no-one will answer their phone.
1/10

 

[simmo_bc]

Hamish Hartlett: 5/10
Has somewhat increased his score thanks to a couple good games late on in the season when the pressure is off. I really should have him lower based off his performances when it mattered. Anyway Hammer’s kicking at the start of the year was absolutely awful and It did gradually improve over the year but he is in the team largely due to his kicking, not acceptable. I don’t see Hammer as a leader personally, he does not get to enough contests for me but he does compete well when the ball is around him. Plays much better off the half back line when the ball comes to him. Anyway as a whole, hasn’t lead well for mine and has had a pretty ordinary year. Should have been dropped at some stage as well.

statistically his best season in the AFL mate, I think he has been great in an otherwise pretty forgettable year.. sure, he has had his bad games but so does everybody in a season where you lose 10 games.

Hammer kicked more goals in 2014 however has doubled his tackle count in 2015 and played a different role. For me, he has stepped up as a leader in 2015 and is probably his defining year as a player in the AFL.

what are you expecting?

 

[simmo_bc]

Matthew Lobbe: 2/10
Quite frankly didn’t deserve his place in the team after about 5 games however, I will address the selection later. Lobbe has quickly turned into a very unco looking player who can’t move around the ground. He has hardly took a mark this year and obviously has not lead from the front at all. Poor year, very poor year.

Tom Jonas: 2/10
Have to put Tommy in the same category as Lobbes here, he has just not been anywhere near AFL standard this year. Tommy looks like he is on the same stuff as Lobbe, looks slow and awkward when he runs. Tommy has never been the best kick and it’s been masked in previous years but it was completely on display this year for everyone to see. You cannot play defence in the modern game with a kick like that. Defensively Jonas is clumsy and has given away too many stupid free kicks. Also should not have been in the team after about round 5.

TJ is a favourite of mine but has clearly had his first down year and is clearly struggling with a quad issue, you only have to watch him run as he looks like an old war horse. Terrific leader at our club.

Lobbe has struggled and has also had his first down year at the club, he needs to improve his overhead marking which is virtually non existant. Terrific leader at our club.

At the end of the day, neither player would be satisfied with their performance in 2015 and I expect them to turn it around in 2016.

 

[El_Scorcho]

Robbie4PM giving Ken 1/10 and similar hyperbolic garbage really, really waters down the point you're trying to make.

If you toned it down a bit you'd probably get a bit of a better reception, because a lot of what you post is fine and makes sense.

1/10 is absolutely moronic. Primus was more than a 1.

 

[rogerjames]

What doesn't surprise me about this forum is that it's ok for Macca to make the comment Pittarded which is a major insult and no-one says anything but other posters make comments that aren't ideal and all hell breaks lose. Most of you posters have no balls

 

[El_Scorcho]

What doesn't surprise me about this forum is that it's ok for Macca to make the comment Pittarded which is a major insult and no-one says anything but other posters make comments that aren't ideal and all hell breaks lose. Most of you posters have no balls

The problem is that Pittarded is clearly light hearted.

Robbie4pm is trying to make a serious, analytical post but then apparently in earnest gives Hinkley 1/10. I agree with most of what he writes but if you insert that sort of garbage into an otherwise serious post, people are naturally going to focus on it and call you out.

 

[Dylan8]

What doesn't surprise me about this forum is that it's ok for Macca to make the comment Pittarded which is a major insult and no-one says anything but other posters make comments that aren't ideal and all hell breaks lose. Most of you posters have no balls

Because Macca has built up a considerable about of goodwill and respect on the forum to the point where if posts something like that most people will regard it as a joke or lighthearted or whatever because we know where he stands. R4PM on the other hand is new and has pretty much exclusively posted cracking the shits at players and coaches. When a person is negative and is only negative and doesn't really interact well with the whole then obviously people are going to get tired of it and react back.

It's disappointing that this isn't obvious to people.

 

[Zakk Wylde]

lol

This thread

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Seems to be a bit too much personal baiting going on here. That is all.