Draft Review 2016 - Revisiting the 2016 AFL Draft

[conrad_437]

You can’t be serious saying you’d take johannissen over mcgrath. Has been average for the past couple of years and he’s not going to get any better

Right. So one player out of how many that I’ve questionably rated ahead of McGrath? Realistically he’s achieved a hell of a lot more than him with his Norm Smith Medal alone. Anyway, the point stands. Jade is deluded if he rates McGrath higher than anyone on the bulldog list, “not named Bont.”

 

[Wild Bill]

Not sure how long since (or if i have) posted a redo list.

Close to end of 2019 assessment (still an element of potential here)

1-Taranto
2-Clug
3-McGrath
4-Stewart
5-English
6-SPS
7-Berry
8-Setterfield
9-Marshall
10-Zurhaar
11-Ryan
12-Ainsworth
13-Battle
14-Graham
15-Bowes
16-Bolton
17-Parfitt
18-Darcy
19-SPP
20-Clarke

Ill max out at a top 20 for now.
Solid draft this. I was a big fan of Ridley's in his draft year. Retraining as a wingman in the VFL. Expect him on this list eventually.

PLenty more quality kids.

Simpkin has to make the top 20 - his best has been better than McGrath this year. Florent, Witherden, Fisher, Larkey all stiff.

 

[Davo-27]

Simpkin has to make the top 20 - his best has been better than McGrath this year. Florent, Witherden, Fisher, Larkey all stiff.

Lewis is another 1 that could crack the top 20

 

[Wild Bill]

Lewis is another 1 that could crack the top 20

Agree - him and Larkey are tracking very closely this year. Both raw exciting 198cm forwards.

 

[andleanback]

Right. So one player out of how many that I’ve questionably rated ahead of McGrath? Realistically he’s achieved a hell of a lot more than him with his Norm Smith Medal alone. Anyway, the point stands. Jade is deluded if he rates McGrath higher than anyone on the bulldog list, “not named Bont.”

Well you went ahead and named a few that aren’t not better. Clearly McGrath is no where near the level of bont, macrae, dunkley and naughton has so much scope as key position because they are so hard to find. At the same time McGrath is being played out of the position for the necessity of the team, if he was allowed to float through half back and be a distributor he would be having a much better season. His defensive qualities are elite as well, bathed Eddie betts in his first season of afl unlike Caleb Daniel who can often get exposed in the d50

 

[Burtman]

I'd take McGrath over bailey smith and Caleb Daniel every single time and as of right now he is a better Player then Naughton, although Naughton has a huge scope (one that i don't think he will ever reach IMO), people are getting carried away now and going overboard with this, McGrath is still a very good young player, Not the best in the draft sure but he'd still be going top 5.

Daniels had a way better year, but McGrath could possibly be better in the future. I would put my house on bailey smith and Naughton being better players in the future, both have been just as good this year and Naughton probably better. Smith had no pre season and has been super this year. The kids gonna be a midfield beast as long as his body holds up

 

[La Dispute]

I find McGrath hard to gauge. He might go on to become an AA level player, or he’ll just develop into a decent complimentary mid in the Tim Notting mould.

I’d definitely take Bailey Smith over him though.

 

[Cadillac]

Daniels had a way better year, but McGrath could possibly be better in the future. I would put my house on bailey smith and Naughton being better players in the future, both have been just as good this year and Naughton probably better. Smith had no pre season and has been super this year. The kids gonna be a midfield beast as long as his body holds up

The fact he’s writing off Smith as ever reaching McGrath’s level is just peak Bigfooty. Particularly when Smith has done an unreal job considering he’s not even turning 19 until late December and the fact that he had an injury interrupted pre season.
A mid that has power, speed and can kick goals are worth their weight in gold. And they are already putting up very similar numbers.

 

[Haychh]

The fact he’s writing off Smith as ever reaching McGrath’s level is just peak Bigfooty. Particularly when Smith has done an unreal job considering he’s not even turning 19 until late December and the fact that he had an injury interrupted pre season.
A mid that has power, speed and can kick goals are worth their weight in gold. And they are already putting up very similar numbers.

You going off on this tangent about someone writing off Smith when nobody has done anything of the sort is peak Bigfooty my friend.

 

[Haychh]

I find McGrath hard to gauge. He might go on to become an AA level player, or he’ll just develop into a decent complimentary mid in the Tim Notting mould.

I’d definitely take Bailey Smith over him though.

He's hard to gauge for us Bombers supporters too, we still haven't seen him playing his best position yet.

Everyone had written off Darcy Parish as a bust until 8 weeks ago, he gets the freedom to play his natural position and we are now seeing what he is capable of, can see the same thing happening to Andy.

 

[Cadillac]

You going off on this tangent about someone writing off Smith when nobody has done anything of the sort is peak Bigfooty my friend.

I'd take McGrath over bailey smith and Caleb Daniel every single time and as of right now he is a better Player then Naughton, although Naughton has a huge scope (one that i don't think he will ever reach IMO), people are getting carried away now and going overboard with this, McGrath is still a very good young player, Not the best in the draft sure but he'd still be going top 5.

 

[Haychh]

Ah there it is. Blokes a Brisbane supporter. Let's not get caught up in one of these "bombers supporters overrate their players" type deals

 

[conrad_437]

Daniels had a way better year, but McGrath could possibly be better in the future. I would put my house on bailey smith and Naughton being better players in the future, both have been just as good this year and Naughton probably better. Smith had no pre season and has been super this year. The kids gonna be a midfield beast as long as his body holds up

I can't be bothered arguing because it is purely subjective. But you can agree with me that Jade's statement was ridiculous and incredibly one eyed. By all means, McGrath may evolve into an A grader but right now he looks like he'll develop into a pretty good player, and there is nothing wrong with that.

 

[Jade]

I can't be bothered arguing because it is purely subjective. But you can agree with me that Jade's statement was ridiculous and incredibly one eyed. By all means, McGrath may evolve into an A grader but right now he looks like he'll develop into a pretty good player, and there is nothing wrong with that.

Oh gosh, that sounds terrible... what did Jade say?

 

[Malifice]

Close to end of 2019 assessment (still an element of potential here)

1-Taranto
2-Clug
3-McGrath
4-Stewart
5-English
6-SPS
7-Berry
8-Setterfield
9-Marshall
10-Zurhaar

After watching Setterfield this year coming back of his knee last year, I reckon he'll be in the top 10 conversation by the end of the year.

Finally got one of my predictions right!

 

[Ekomaira]

Not sure how long since (or if i have) posted a redo list.

Close to end of 2019 assessment (still an element of potential here)

1-Taranto
2-Clug
3-McGrath
4-Stewart
5-English
6-SPS
7-Berry
8-Setterfield
9-Marshall
10-Zurhaar
11-Ryan
12-Ainsworth
13-Battle
14-Graham
15-Bowes
16-Bolton
17-Parfitt
18-Darcy
19-SPP
20-Clarke

Ill max out at a top 20 for now.
Solid draft this. I was a big fan of Ridley's in his draft year. Retraining as a wingman in the VFL. Expect him on this list eventually.

PLenty more quality kids.

reckon Marshall pretty hard done by there. I'd have him over English 100 times out 100

 

[PostPaolo]

Looking forward to seeing how wrong I get this in 5-10 years time

1. Taranto
2. McGrath
3. McCluggage
4. Stewart
5. Marshall
6. Witherden
7. Fisher
8. Parfitt
9. Florent
10. Bowes
11. Powell-Pepper
12. Setterfield
13. Berry
14. Ainsworth
15. Graham
16. Long
17. Ratugolea
18. Ryan
19. Perryman
20. Simpkin

With apologies to:
Darcy, Petrevski Seton, Hayward, Logue, Venables, Scrimshaw and Williamson.

Plenty of changes a year and a half on, first few out were Darcy, Graham, Galluci, B.Long, Brodie, D.Clarke. Always good to see how wrong you are a year at a time.

1. Taranto
2. McCluggage
3. McGrath
4. T.Stewart
5. J. Berry
6. R.Marshall
7. T.English
8. L.Ryan
9. Bowes
10. Simpkin
11. Witherden
12. Zurhaar
13. SPS
14. Florent
15. Henry
16. Setterfield
17. Powell-Pepper
18. Larkey
19. Parfitt
20. M.Lewis
21. Hayward
22. Fisher
23. Lipinski
24. Bolton
25. Ainsworth
26. Ratugolea
27. W.Rioli
28. C.Brown
29. Logue
30. Perryman

 

[citizen-erased]

Finally got one of my predictions right!

Ive long rated Setterfield. Was a bit worried the injuries could mount up and make things hard for him. But looks to be ok.
Perhaps that ex-hawk medico you guys have should be made available AFL wide, so we can prevent guns going down to mismanaged injury

 

[citizen-erased]

reckon Marshall pretty hard done by there. I'd have him over English 100 times out 100

Current output, yep.
I have kept my predicted ceilings in mind with this list, as well as some current form.

Looking like a decent crop. i also forgot some players :/

 

[Malifice]

Ive long rated Setterfield.

Playing him on the wing, and he's going gangbusters since we did so.

He gets some confidence back in his body and puts on 5+ kgs and he'll move to an inside mid.

 

[citizen-erased]

Simpkin has to make the top 20 - his best has been better than McGrath this year. Florent, Witherden, Fisher, Larkey all stiff.

nah.
I did hold off to watch tonight thinking i'd missed something in Simpkin. Im not seeing that assessment
Good call on Witherden. I took him out to place him back in when i was done, and forgot. Will add back in

Lewis is another 1 that could crack the top 20

agreed. He is building a nice game. Once he has the tank for 4 quarters, he'll be a serious forward. Strong hands, good positioning.
Not far off the top 20.

 

[Warhorse]

I'd take McGrath over bailey smith and Caleb Daniel every single time and as of right now he is a better Player then Naughton, although Naughton has a huge scope (one that i don't think he will ever reach IMO), people are getting carried away now and going overboard with this, McGrath is still a very good young player, Not the best in the draft sure but he'd still be going top 5.

Wot Bailey Smith has best player in the comp potential. He has all the tricks and is very very good

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Not sure how long since (or if i have) posted a redo list.

Close to end of 2019 assessment (still an element of potential here)

1-Taranto
2-Clug
3-McGrath
4-Stewart
5-English
6-SPS
7-Berry
8-Setterfield
9-Marshall
10-Zurhaar
11-Witherden
12-Ryan
13-Ainsworth
14-Battle
15-Graham
16-Bowes
17-Bolton
18-Parfitt
19-Darcy
20-SPP

edit - added Witherden back in

Ill max out at a top 20 for now.
Solid draft this. I was a big fan of Ridley's in his draft year. Retraining as a wingman in the VFL. Expect him on this list eventually.

PLenty more quality kids.

How is Parfitt in the that list and Zac Fisher isn't ?
Geez Louise. Also Zurhaar deserves to be top 5 on 2019 form, being a real bolter this season.

 

[Wild Bill]

nah.
I did hold off to watch tonight thinking i'd missed something in Simpkin. Im not seeing that assessment
Good call on Witherden. I took him out to place him back in when i was done, and forgot. Will add back in

agreed. He is building a nice game. Once he has the tank for 4 quarters, he'll be a serious forward. Strong hands, good positioning.
Not far off the top 20.

Simpkins best is better than McGrath’s but you need to wait and watch 1 game to see if he is top 20? There is a big chance he will be the better player and your number 1 pick slides down the pecking order.

 

[citizen-erased]

Simpkins best is better than McGrath’s but you need to wait and watch 1 game to see if he is top 20? There is a big chance he will be the better player and your number 1 pick slides down the pecking order.

perhaps, but Simpkin at the moment hasn't popped out in any of the games ive watched. And while i inevitably watch McGrath more, i still watch Simpkin a bit (i have in a UF keeper league, so there is some investment)

To date and with the upside i predict (which is worth nothing in real life), i have McGrath ahead.
not sure the chance is big. There's a chance sure. He was rated and felt he could have gone top 5-8 at the time. But i wouldnt say it's big like you would bank your house on it.

The one game was to see if i had missed something throughout the year.