Toast 2017 Doig Medal Thread

[Scham]

Seems to be a common problem with more than a few of our players...can that be coached out of a player?

It was symptomatic of our team this year. OK in a handful of games but lacked consistency and struggled in a lot of games.

 

[Quazar]

someone said Kersten polled 10th? 10!! How? I like Shane and am hopeful he can improve, but wished he would stop being so lazy - he has a sweet set foot shot and can impact the scoreboard if you get the ball in his hands, but when the team is on the backfoot he goes missing big time. Not enough grunt or effort to pressure or win the ball back and effect the play positively. If he's to lock down a starting 22 regularly he needs to provide more. Although that didn't seem to hamper him getting selected this year. Weirdness

 

[gungho]

A vote comparison of the last 3 years is interesting.

2015
1st — Aaron Sandilands (282 votes)
2nd — David Mundy (277)
3rd — Stephen Hill (261)
4th — Nat Fyfe (260)
5th — Michael Walters (244)
6th — Lachie Neale (239)
7th — Lee Spurr (223)
8th — Danyle Pearce (217)
9th — Chris Mayne (202)
10th — Luke McPharlin (198)

2016
1. Lachie Neale 200
2. Stephen Hill 170
3. Michael Walters 152
4. Matthew Pavlich 118
5. Lee Spurr 116
6. Chris Mayne 99
7. Hayden Ballantyne 85
8. Michael Barlow 80
9. David Mundy 75
10. Tommy Sheridan 65

2017
1. Bradley Hill - 158
2. Lachie Neale - 135
3. Nat Fyfe - 132
4. David Mundy - 128
5. Michael Walters - 123
6. Joel Hamling - 119
7. Michael Johnson - 110
8. Connor Blakely - 92
9. Stephen Hill - 88
10. Shane Kersten - 63

I believe all years used the same criteria (5 coaches ranking every player 0-5), with 2015 having an extra 2 games to poll votes in.

 

[gungho]

A vote comparison of the last 3 years is interesting.

2015
1st — Aaron Sandilands (282 votes)
2nd — David Mundy (277)
3rd — Stephen Hill (261)
4th — Nat Fyfe (260)
5th — Michael Walters (244)
6th — Lachie Neale (239)
7th — Lee Spurr (223)
8th — Danyle Pearce (217)
9th — Chris Mayne (202)
10th — Luke McPharlin (198)

2016
1. Lachie Neale 200
2. Stephen Hill 170
3. Michael Walters 152
4. Matthew Pavlich 118
5. Lee Spurr 116
6. Chris Mayne 99
7. Hayden Ballantyne 85
8. Michael Barlow 80
9. David Mundy 75
10. Tommy Sheridan 65

2017
1. Bradley Hill - 158
2. Lachie Neale - 135
3. Nat Fyfe - 132
4. David Mundy - 128
5. Michael Walters - 123
6. Joel Hamling - 119
7. Michael Johnson - 110
8. Connor Blakely - 92
9. Stephen Hill - 88
10. Shane Kersten - 63

I believe all years used the same criteria (5 coaches ranking every player 0-5), with 2015 having an extra 2 games to poll votes in.

Thanks for posting this. Does make for interesting reading from 2016 to 2017. Essentially Spur, Mayne and Sheridan were replaced with Hill, Hamling and Blakely. We are definitely moving forward as a list.

 

[caramello]

I did an excel file with the ACFLA votes for Freo by round but couldn't upload it. I couldn't find a totals per team so did my own.
ACLFA 2017
FYFE 36
B HILL 34
S HILL 18
HAMLING 4
MUNDY 24
NEALE 37
BLAKELY 14
WELLER 2
JOHNSON 8
TABANER 6
WALTERS 38
SUBAN 4
NYHUIS 1
RYAN 10
McCARTHY 2

Stephen Hill was awarded 1 vote in Round 1 vs Geelong.

No votes for any Freo players awarded in following games -
Round 2 - Port
Round 6 - Eagles
Round 10 - Crows
Round 11 - Collingwood
Round 12 - Brisbane
Round 13 - our bye
Round 18 - Hawthorn
Round 21 - Swans

 

[caramello]

How many votes did Fyfe get in the AFL Coaches Award compared to Bradley?

Just posted what I did with AFLCA votes, added to the end of this thread.

 

[Harry Reems]

Kim Hagdorn won't let the fact that Brad Hill won the the Doig Medal go. He has now gone back through his own "Best Players" votes throughout the season, plus the Brownlow and Coaches votes and still can't work out how Brad Hill could have possibly won.

Nat Fyfe was by far Fremantle's best player with Lachie Neale the clear second best and David Mundy third according to all of his research and information.

So Kim now wants the club to review the way the medal is voted on which is as follows;

"The voting system as of the 2017 AFL season, consists of five coaches giving each player a ranking from zero to five after each match. Players can therefore only receive a maximum of 25 votes for a game."

However I can only think of two other occasions when I personally believe that the medal wasn't given to what we all thought was the club's fairest and best player in a season.

And that was Ryan Crowley in 2012 and Aaron Sandilands in 2015.

 

[caramello]

Is Hagdorn privvy to what the coaches asked of the players? If a player doesn't follow what coaches might expect, that could affect how the votes went.

 

[Deathly]

Nat Fyfe was by far Fremantle's best player with Lachie Neale the clear second best and David Mundy third according to all of his research and information.

And this is why he is nothing but a walking joke. Fyfe was not "by far" our best with Neale / Mundy clear cut Top 3.

 

[Allikat]

And this is why he is nothing but a walking joke. Fyfe was not "by far" our best with Neale / Mundy clear cut Top 3.

Even if he was, it's based on the players own ability, not comparing him to the other players. Fyfe was a fair bit down on his own top form, so he's not going to get top marks every week because then there's no where to go when he smashes it next year

 

[Caldera]

Is Hagdorn privvy to what the coaches asked of the players? If a player doesn't follow what coaches might expect, that could affect how the votes went.

Bang on

 

[Dump Truck]

I forgot that all AFL club's best and fairest awards were dictated by 3rd rate hack journalists perceptions.

 

[estibador]

And this is why he is nothing but a walking joke. Fyfe was not "by far" our best with Neale / Mundy clear cut Top 3.

Yeah Mundy had a pretty ordinary second half of the year for the most part.

That he still finished so high is a testament to how great his first couple of months were.

 

[electricfeel]

Why does Hackdorn care.....

 

[valkorum]

Why does Hackdorn care.....

Because he gets to hang more poop on Freo - it's his favourite pass time.

 

[mightymouse75]

Who actually reads hackdorn ??

 

[Allikat]

Who actually reads hackdorn ??

His mum?

 

[valkorum]

His mum?

Nope, not even she does