Opinion 2017 Draft Discussion - Pick 3 - Poll added

[PrinceCharles]

2010 to 2014 pick 3 and 10 had one hit and one miss, players like sumner, freeman at 10 doesn't look very good in hindsight.

2014 - Brayshaw and cockatoo
2015 - mills and McKay
2016 - mccluggage and Bowes
2017 - ??

The last three years lookpretty good at this stage. I'd take any of the last few years 3 and 10 draft picks this month. Keen for Cerra and Fogarty.

Weren't exactly standard drafts during that period.

 

[therubbernub]

Nah, Malthouse is a prick of a man but I reckon he’d be pretty pragmatic about his time with us.

3 mill will do that to most when your career was finished already

You interviewed Mick Teaguey?

 

[therubbernub]

So is it true none of the kids this year are rated in the top half dozen or so from last year? That's a tad concerning if true.

Is this just one person's view?

Apparently 3 people believe this. The rest dont

 

[Zlatan]

Sorry mate, there's an ASIO alert for when Arabs like me make countdown clocks.

As a fellow Arab, I laughed much harder at this than I was probably supposed to.

 

[therubbernub]

Let's be clear: when he's in games, he can be amongst the footy off HF, and briefly in midfield, but then he will go missing for 5+ minutes.

He is a very talented footballer, but a very limited athlete from an AFL perspective. The Liam Jones comparison is very fair in that sense. Are we prepared to have the midfield pick up his slack when we turn the ball over?

Jim what a wonder you are. How can you know so much with so little to go on. We should all bow down to your greater insights, without which we would be truly lost

 

[therubbernub]

I'm saying it happens to him in either role. He blows up.

Why would you spend pick 3 on a half forward?

 

[teagueyubeauty]

You interviewed Mick Teaguey?

Nah, I know guys at work that have during his career, post him getting the arse and working side by side with him nowadays and he’s actually in a pretty good headspace. Much more relaxed.....

 

[therubbernub]

Some do struggle to build endurance, like trying to convert a 100M sprinter into a 10,000 KM runner

Lets not exagerate. Lets face it most afl players are not the elite natural athletes that we often portray them to be. They get there through the support and guidance of their club and due to the motivation of contract etc. Most would not win a 100m at schoolboy level, nor would they be running out the 10k . They are mostly ok athletes that happen to have a gift in the area of football ability.
I dont buy this Raynor is a lost cause in terms of endurance BS. He is physically able to reach the necessary levels if he wants to as are probably 95% of players drafted. Sure there will be the freak natural athletes- but they are not the norm or the benchmark
All I know is that modern AFL demands multiple avenues to goal and the influence of the KPF/specialist forward is declining and the emergence of the midfielder who has a proclivity toward kicking goals is becoming ever stronger. If there is anything that cant be trained, it is natural goal sense and conversion. Given that we know Raynor has this latter ability, I say that this puts him in front of most other midfielders. His endurance will come and will only serve to make him even more damaging. I have great faith in SOS and PB to assess a player and do the right thing. If that is Raynor -so be it. If not - bullet dodged

 

[therubbernub]

Nah, I know guys at work that have during his career, post him getting the arse and working side by side with him nowadays and he’s actually in a pretty good headspace. Much more relaxed.....

I agree - i bumped into him the other day in East Melbourne. Now is a proud grandfather- but still loves his footy.

 

[therubbernub]

I will bet that Rayner is a little too into weights.

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Perhaps a little Osteitis Pubis happening?

 

[HBF]

Cerra also follows us on instagram. Just saying

He wants to stay in Melbourne as well.

 

[1981]

Apparently 3 people believe this. The rest dont

Thanks for this

 

[Jimmae]

Jim what a wonder you are. How can you know so much with so little to go on. We should all bow down to your greater insights, without which we would be truly lost

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I guess we'll review this after the draft.

 

[Beer n Skittles]

Jim what a wonder you are. How can you know so much with so little to go on. We should all bow down to your greater insights, without which we would be truly lost

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Lets not exagerate. Lets face it most afl players are not the elite natural athletes that we often portray them to be. They get there through the support and guidance of their club and due to the motivation of contract etc. Most would not win a 100m at schoolboy level, nor would they be running out the 10k . They are mostly ok athletes that happen to have a gift in the area of football ability.
I dont buy this Raynor is a lost cause in terms of endurance BS. He is physically able to reach the necessary levels if he wants to as are probably 95% of players drafted. Sure there will be the freak natural athletes- but they are not the norm or the benchmark
All I know is that modern AFL demands multiple avenues to goal and the influence of the KPF/specialist forward is declining and the emergence of the midfielder who has a proclivity toward kicking goals is becoming ever stronger. If there is anything that cant be trained, it is natural goal sense and conversion. Given that we know Raynor has this latter ability, I say that this puts him in front of most other midfielders. His endurance will come and will only serve to make him even more damaging. I have great faith in SOS and PB to assess a player and do the right thing. If that is Raynor -so be it. If not - bullet dodged

You're clearly a huge fan of Rayner, others have concerns about him. Don't take it personally

 

[mmhau]

Can’t wait for the draft to come. I don’t know who I want at 3 now. Confused now.

 

[RudyBlue]

Funny and Saad at the same time

 

[thylacine60]

confusion - a wonderful place to learn

 

[G-TRAIN07]

He wants to stay in Melbourne as well.

Can you blame him and the others

 

[reubsblues]

Still on the Rayner train but wouldn't be disappointed in best mates LDU and Clark
At 3 and 10

 

[G-TRAIN07]

The games rayner played in did he go up against LDU dow cerra when they played against each other on opposite sides

 

[Blue and Silver]

3 & 10 pairings I would like:

Rayner & Clark
Rayner & O'Brien
Rayner & Constable
Rayner & Fogarty
Rayner & Brayshaw
Rayner & Bonar
Cerra & Clark
Cerra & Fogarty
Cerra & Bonar
Cerra & Brayshaw
Cerra & O'Brien
Dow & Clark
Dow & Fogarty
Dow & Brayshaw
Dow & Bonar
Dow & O'Brien

The big thing to note is, I don't like Constable with another predominately inside mid.

 

[HARKER]

I'd be happy with any combo that gives us Brayshaw @ #10, but doubt that may come about.

Select the players that serve an immediate need and ones that Bolton can extract the most out of. That makes for a good combination.

 

[reubsblues]

3 & 10 pairings I would like:

Rayner & Clark
Rayner & O'Brien
Rayner & Constable
Rayner & Fogarty
Rayner & Brayshaw
Rayner & Bonar
Cerra & Clark
Cerra & Fogarty
Cerra & Bonar
Cerra & Brayshaw
Cerra & O'Brien
Dow & Clark
Dow & Fogarty
Dow & Brayshaw
Dow & Bonar
Dow & O'Brien

The big thing to note is, I don't like Constable with another predominately inside mid.

Rayner/Brayshaw would be a awesome
But there are so many good combination
We cant really lose
I cant wait for the draft

 

[SafeAsMilk]

3 & 10 pairings I would like:

Rayner & Clark
Rayner & O'Brien
Rayner & Constable
Rayner & Fogarty
Rayner & Brayshaw
Rayner & Bonar
Cerra & Clark
Cerra & Fogarty
Cerra & Bonar
Cerra & Brayshaw
Cerra & O'Brien
Dow & Clark
Dow & Fogarty
Dow & Brayshaw
Dow & Bonar
Dow & O'Brien

The big thing to note is, I don't like Constable with another predominately inside mid.

My favourite combos^ (underlined most preferred)

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Rayner and Brayshaw.. wowee

Dow/LDU and Stepehenson/Fogarty also very good