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2017 Game Plan

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What game plan to use heading into 2017

  • defensive game plan

    Votes: 10 34.5%
  • Attacking game plan

    Votes: 6 20.7%
  • New game plan

    Votes: 13 44.8%

  • Total voters
    29

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Ross has been the king of the defensive game plan for years and last year tampered with his plan which was a winning formula and made the team play a more attacking style of play. It turned out to be a bad decision. Players used to a defensive mind set needed to play more of an attacking style of play and with the injuries a season that was very disappointing so do we continued with the attacking new style of play or revert back to what Ross is best known for and what made freo a team to be afraid of over the past few years??
 
The actual defense could look like this:
Spurr A Pearce Collins
Crozier Hamling Weller

Significant improvement in speed and skills, leaning towards an attack from defense model.

The midfield rotation should add Fyfe, Bennell and B Hill from last year which does the same. The only significant loss was a stoppage specialist apparently in transition to a run with role.

The forward line is on paper significantly more dangerous. Worth remembering that the two defensive stalwarts in Mayne and de Boer are gone.

The change is ON.
 
We seem to have quite a lot of speed and athleticism coming in. B.Hill, McCarthy and Hamling to be exact (not too sure how athletic Kersten is). Combine that with Bennell, Langdon, S.Hill, Weller, Tucker, Yaz, ect and we can have quite a dangerous run and gun game. Could be very interesting to watch if we have a lock down defense and the everyone zipping all over the place on attack (also quite funny). Also just having a few players standing around doing nothing. Confusing the enemy will lead to certain victory. Would at least be a good fit at Subi.
 
The actual defense could look like this:
Spurr A Pearce Collins
Crozier Hamling Weller

Significant improvement in speed and skills, leaning towards an attack from defense model.

The midfield rotation should add Fyfe, Bennell and B Hill from last year which does the same. The only significant loss was a stoppage specialist apparently in transition to a run with role.

The forward line is on paper significantly more dangerous. Worth remembering that the two defensive stalwarts in Mayne and de Boer are gone.

The change is ON.
I think if it's a more attacking game plan it is likely that Stephen hill will be more than likely down there in replace of Collins etc
 

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Our early 2015 form was better than anybody has played over the last few years. That gameplan is not defunct. It will still work if implemented properly. And stands up in finals. Stick to what we know how to do, and just refine it with some more skill/speed/class (e.g. Bennell, B.Hill, young amigos vs Suban, DeBoer, Mzungu, D.Pearce). More than 1 KPF will help as well.

The main problem area is replicating the rebound provided by McPharlin, Duffield and Johnson. If we can get something in that area out of our mobile young KPD and Weller/Crozier perform, then we should be aiming to be back in the top 4 next year.
 
The main problem area is replicating the rebound provided by McPharlin, Duffield and Johnson. If we can get something in that area out of our mobile young KPD and Weller/Crozier perform, then we should be aiming to be back in the top 4 next year.

Would love to see Weller trying to replicate what JJ does for the Dogs.
 
The actual defense could look like this:
Spurr A Pearce Collins
Crozier Hamling Weller

Significant improvement in speed and skills, leaning towards an attack from defense model.

The midfield rotation should add Fyfe, Bennell and B Hill from last year which does the same. The only significant loss was a stoppage specialist apparently in transition to a run with role.

The forward line is on paper significantly more dangerous. Worth remembering that the two defensive stalwarts in Mayne and de Boer are gone.

The change is ON.
I think if it's a more attacking game plan it is likely that Stephen hill will be more than likely down there in replace of Collins etc

I had Mundy or Tucker replacing Collins, but I do agree Hill would be back there.

With clubs chasing more speed, I don't think we can afford to play more than 2 KPD's against most teams.

A backline with Crozier, Weller, Tucker plus the two hills pushing back and providing run out will help us a lot.
 
I've mentioned this on other threads but our biggest difference will actually be how we enter the f50. Previous years we've had Fyfe/Suban/D.Pearce/Mzungu/Neale/Sutcliffe bombing it in with precision entries predominantly done by Mundy/S.Hill/Walters and more recently Weller. On top of this we also had a Pavcentric approach, because he was our best forward and usually best option. However Tabs/Ape/T.Smith/Griffin/Clarke/Hannath all got ignored on occasions and not to mention most of those weren't that great as a forward. Hopefully this year we will see more marks on leads then opportune contested marking. Kersten is good at body on body marking as is Ape but McCarthy is great at the lead, third man up marking as is Tabs.

This year we will have more in the precision entry team such as Bennell/B.Hill/Weller/Balic if he steps up/Crozier/Sheridan and less entries (hopefully) from D.Pearce/Suban etc. Fyfe & Neale will still be more bomb long approach but with a different forward line and aerial specialists like McCarthy/Yarran (hopefully) and contested markers such as Ape then it won't be as bad. Not to mention that we no longer have a #1 forward. Not having Pav will hurt us and leave a massive whole but it will also make us a whole lot less predictable and harder to match up on. Couple that with Bennell/Fyfe moving forward and Weller/B.Hill/Langdon all having good goal sense as well.

I would still suggest a more conservative, defensive style gameplan of early 2015 but I think we could surprise a few teams with our counter-attacking next season.
 
The actual defense could look like this:
Spurr A Pearce Collins
Crozier Hamling Weller

Significant improvement in speed and skills, leaning towards an attack from defense model.

The midfield rotation should add Fyfe, Bennell and B Hill from last year which does the same. The only significant loss was a stoppage specialist apparently in transition to a run with role.

The forward line is on paper significantly more dangerous. Worth remembering that the two defensive stalwarts in Mayne and de Boer are gone.

The change is ON.

I know this is Pedantic but I'd see it:

Spurr Collins Hamling
Crozier. A Pearce Weller
I see more benefit with Pearce at CHB. He's quicker and more creative and Hamling has the abilty to play tall and small, and also is fantastic reader of the play, being able to sag off and leave his man
If this is the case (and it is quite a balanced backline), we have a log jam in the mids and at Half forward.

Hill Neale Hill
Bennell McCarthy Kersten
Yarran (?) Apeness Walters (Ballantyne?)

If we send a ruck division of Sandi Fyfe and Blakely:

Leaves us with Mundy, Langdon, Balic, Sheridan, Danyle Pearce, Tucker, Clarke as spare ruck.

First one out for mine is Danyle Pearce, probably with Clarke and Balic.

Leaves Dawson, Johnson, Ibbotson, Pearce, Suban, Taberner as depth
This team allows for attacking, agressive football, without sacrificing defensive grunt...and I'm really hoping Yarran is still around. The kid offers point of difference. Pace, marking and flair.

SO basically my round one team all things being equal would be:
Spurr Collins Hamling
Crozier. A Pearce Weller
Hill Neale Hill
Bennell McCarthy Kersten
Yarran Apeness Walters

Sandi Fyfe Blakely
Interchange: Mundy Langdon Tucker Sheridan

We have grunt in the mids, disposal and lock down in the back, and creativity, power and pace up front, and the young guys get experience.
With that mix we can easily shift the cards around to cover if someone is getting beaten badly eg, Hill or Mundy to half back, Bennell on to a wing, Weller to half forward
 
I like Johnson as the third key defender - can play on resting ruck, run off them and create. He is super important to the team structure. We do not have anyone else both tall enough and skillful enough to play that role. I wonder if it drives our recruiting - maybe we look at a Scrimshaw type player
 
I like Johnson as the third key defender - can play on resting ruck, run off them and create. He is super important to the team structure. We do not have anyone else both tall enough and skillful enough to play that role. I wonder if it drives our recruiting - maybe we look at a Scrimshaw type player

Agree:thumbsu: Johnson is our most important defender. He sets up the exit from defence. No way will he be depth. If fit he plays.
Spurr Dawson Hamling I think Dawson will play first up.
Johnson Pearce Tucker / Croz
Weller S Hill. B Hill
Bennell. Tabs Walters
Balla / Yarran Apeness McCarthy
Sandi Neale Fyfe

Mundy, Blakely, Sheridan ,Langdon / Ballic, Sutcliffe, Hughes Kersten.
 
Almost any game plan will be better than the 2016 version was. Evolutionary rather that revolutionary is what I hope for but based on 2013 to 2015 rather than 2016's radical change of direction.

Ross's strength is defence first and he will revert to that to a large degree imo, additionally he now has more midfield grunt than ever before and some interesting talent in the forward half for next season so I hope that will lead to a higher scoring team. Realistically it could take a while for things to gel so I am willing to be patient during 2017.

With such huge changes in the list this off season and more to follow at the end of 2017 we will have to evolve as the list changes rather than just try to plug a new player in to take the role of a player such as Pav for example. Exciting times.
 

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Agree:thumbsu: Johnson is our most important defender. He sets up the exit from defence. No way will he be depth. If fit he plays.
Spurr Dawson Hamling I think Dawson will play first up.
Johnson Pearce Tucker / Croz
Weller S Hill. B Hill
Bennell. Tabs Walters
Balla / Yarran Apeness McCarthy
Sandi Neale Fyfe

Mundy, Blakely, Sheridan ,Langdon / Ballic, Sutcliffe, Hughes Kersten.
I really don't see any point in playing Johnson any more. We need to be getting games into whoever his replacement is.
 
I really don't see any point in playing Johnson any more. We need to be getting games into whoever his replacement is.

You spelt Dawson wrong.
 
and I would happily give him a hand shandy if he asked for one.
I agree his day is done but something just doesn't sound right about that:eek:

Get young Jason Carter to run sessions on how to play on properly!!
Recruit a playmaker to slot into MJ's role.
He's not cooked yet but his creative drive out of the back half is gonna be hard to replicate when he's gone.
 
I agree his day is done but something just doesn't sound right about that:eek:

Get young Jason Carter to run sessions on how to play on properly!!
Recruit a playmaker to slot into MJ's role.
He's not cooked yet but his creative drive out of the back half is gonna be hard to replicate when he's gone.
We might not be able to replace him with one player, but we could replace him with two: Weller and Crozier.
 

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Certainly agree those two have got plenty to offer coming out of the backline.
Hope they continue to develop,both seem to have the tools.
 
I've heard the club is reaching out to members to ask them for ideas what the plan should be. The first question of the survey has it sorted I think:

Q1. What should our plan in 2017 be?
1) "Kick it!!!!"
2) "Go, go, run faster!"
3) "arrrggghhh, stop being a pea heart Zac!"
4) "wtf are you doing Danyle? get off!"
5) "Suban!? what the **** were our selectors thinking?"
 
I think we can all agree we need an attacking defense. Out of all the Talls Johnson is that only attacking rebound type though. He will be sorely missed and tough to replace
 
[QUOTE="Lach72, post: 47869709, member: 20471"
SO basically my round one team all things being equal would be:
Spurr Collins Hamling
Crozier. A Pearce Weller
Hill Neale Hill
Bennell McCarthy Kersten
Yarran Apeness Walters

Sandi Fyfe Blakely
Interchange: Mundy Langdon Tucker Sheridan
[/QUOTE]

That's almost exactly as I see it, with the exception that I'd replace Sheridan with Baltic based on promise as much as revealed form. But the former is Ross's love child so not much chance of that happening.
 

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