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Analysis 2017 List Management Discussion - Part 3

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I think we have to understand that we'll have money we have to spend.
Who knows how we'll do that, but in the bigger picture, it may have to come into account.

Today, I'm looking forward to Kelly in Navy Blue. :)

The more and more I think about it the more I want Kelly or similar in 1 or 2 years. We still lack depth and need to keep turning our list over. Young talent especially through the midfield is what we need. It's the draft for me

in 2018-19 go after a Kelly or a McLuggage or a Taranto types. There ability will be more obvious and we will have the cash
 
The more and more I think about it the more I want Kelly or similar in 1 or 2 years. We still lack depth and need to keep turning our list over. Young talent especially through the midfield is what we need. It's the draft for me

in 2018-19 go after a Kelly or a McLuggage or a Taranto types. There ability will be more obvious and we will have the cash

If Kelly can be get, whilst still hanging onto a premium pick, this year or next, then SOS would have done an amazing job.
Talents such as Kelly don't come about too often and if one feels that all the work seems as though it will pay off, you're a little less likely to want to put it to bed and take another chance next year or the one after.

We may not want to be 'that' club that has to be seen to be doing something for supporters sake, sponsors sake, memberships sake etc.........but there will be pressures there, nonetheless.
We also have a lot of money we have to spend. That can't be discounted, either. We've planned for this moment, so if it's there, what do we do?
 
If Kelly can be get, whilst still hanging onto a premium pick, this year or next, then SOS would have done an amazing job.
Talents such as Kelly don't come about too often and if one feels that all the work seems as though it will pay off, you're a little less likely to want to put it to bed and take another chance next year or the one after.

We may not want to be 'that' club that has to be seen to be doing something for supporters sake, sponsors sake, memberships sake etc.........but there will be pressures there, nonetheless.
We also have a lot of money we have to spend. That can't be discounted, either. We've planned for this moment, so if it's there, what do we do?

Not an easy answer is it. Would be very happy with Kelly but I lean towards patience and continuing to build a very strong base and depth first. Will help with "long term sustainable success".
 

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Not an easy answer is it. Would be very happy with Kelly but I lean towards patience and continuing to build a very strong base and depth first. Will help with "long term sustainable success".

I agree with you by far and large, but we're not in the drivers seat.
The CFC cannot allow falling membership numbers and a drop-off in sponsorship interest and dollars.
Not suggesting that we'd be panicking but there would be pressure on MLG and Trigg to 'perform'

Having said that though, Kelly isn't a 'panic' moment, as the character can be banked on.
How many more weeks of this as I have next to no interest in the finals.........what a waste of time. :)
 
I agree with you by far and large, but we're not in the drivers seat.
The CFC cannot allow falling membership numbers and a drop-off in sponsorship interest and dollars.
Not suggesting that we'd be panicking but there would be pressure on MLG and Trigg to 'perform'

I really don't think that is an issue. If people can see a path and we stick to it they will be happy. Sponsorship and membership is up and believe it is because we finally have a direction and a happy and positive club. In 2-3 years we will be challenging for finals. Even this year we finished bottom 3 but most would be happy with kids and future.

I think it is so much more important that the club stick to the path and are patient. The 66 game List rebuild looking to "long term sustainable success". Change that and look to quick fixes and they will lose all credibility. What has been achieved in the past 2 years is so impressive. My opinion is stay the path, it will pay off big time
 
I really don't think that is an issue. If people can see a path and we stick to it they will be happy. Sponsorship and membership is up and believe it is because we finally have a direction and a happy and positive club. In 2-3 years we will be challenging for finals. Even this year we finished bottom 3 but most would be happy with kids and future.

I think it is so much more important that the club stick to the path and are patient. The 66 game List rebuild looking to "long term sustainable success". Change that and look to quick fixes and they will lose all credibility. What has been achieved in the past 2 years is so impressive. My opinion is stay the path, it will pay off big time

It is an issue as in 4 years, our numbers have remained stagnant whilst someone like Essendon has bumped their numbers by 50%
Our poor performances have relegated us to the 'no interest' time-slots. Very little exposure for sponsors.

Going a little off-topic here, but just saying that memberships and sponsorships matter to make us a strong self-sufficient club.
 
I really don't think that is an issue. If people can see a path and we stick to it they will be happy. Sponsorship and membership is up and believe it is because we finally have a direction and a happy and positive club. In 2-3 years we will be challenging for finals. Even this year we finished bottom 3 but most would be happy with kids and future.

I think it is so much more important that the club stick to the path and are patient. The 66 game List rebuild looking to "long term sustainable success". Change that and look to quick fixes and they will lose all credibility. What has been achieved in the past 2 years is so impressive. My opinion is stay the path, it will pay off big time
However getting Kelly now doesnt mean we are deviating from the path does it ?
 

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That's the net position not the cost

Kelly could cost us Rayner/Dow & a Taranto/SPS for example. What is better? I really rate Kelly and wouldn't be unhappy if we got him but I'm not fussed if we don't.
Maybe thats why people are hesitant with the rebuild looking at the cost instead of the net result . And im not just talking about 1 trade but 2 years of net results . I have no problem in the club spending 2 first rounders for Kelly . The reason is that our club has done a fantastic job in bringing in talent over the past 2 years especially last year at little cost . I dont begrudge them for paying up for a talent like Kelly .
 
Maybe thats why people are hesitant with the rebuild looking at the cost instead of the net result . And im not just talking about 1 trade but 2 years of net results . I have no problem in the club spending 2 first rounders for Kelly . The reason is that our club has done a fantastic job in bringing in talent over the past 2 years especially last year at little cost . I dont begrudge them for paying up for a talent like Kelly .

As I said I wouldn't be unhappy with either. My gut feel is given our position (lack of depth) that 2 talented kids (maybe even 3) may be better than just Kelly. Not an easy answer as Kelly is a special talent. Whatever happens we will be fine
 
As I said I wouldn't be unhappy with either. My gut feel is given our position (lack of depth) that 2 talented kids (maybe even 3) may be better than just Kelly. Not an easy answer as Kelly is a special talent. Whatever happens we will be fine
Yep he will decide for us anyway :thumbsu:
 

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Not an easy answer is it. Would be very happy with Kelly but I lean towards patience and continuing to build a very strong base and depth first. Will help with "long term sustainable success".

I am with you on that Soapy. As much as I'd love to get Kelly for an immediate impact, what if Cerra, LDU, etc turn out to be just as elite?
I know it's still all what if but we shouldn't be selling the farm at this stage. Get him if we can but not at all costs.
Even if we do manage to get Kelly I think we still need to be selecting in the top dozen on draft day. Big ask though to manage both.
 
Yet to play a full season of footy in WA, where he could win most ruck contests just by standing there.
You forget that East Perth is the affiliate for the WCE so he has had to be managed with Petrie, Lycett, Giles, Vardy, McInnes, etc.
Has had injuries but stats don't always tell the whole story.
Youtube his highlights and you will see that he converts better than most on our list, including one who I will refrain from mentioning! LOL
 
You forget that East Perth is the affiliate for the WCE so he has had to be managed with Petrie, Lycett, Giles, Vardy, McInnes, etc.
Has had injuries but stats don't always tell the whole story.
Youtube his highlights and you will see that he converts better than most on our list, including one who I will refrain from mentioning! LOL
My concerns are his general fitness and running capacity.

He's a big bloke who will win a lot of contests if he can get to them, but he has struggled to accumulate at all levels of state footy.
 
I really don't think that is an issue. If people can see a path and we stick to it they will be happy. Sponsorship and membership is up and believe it is because we finally have a direction and a happy and positive club. In 2-3 years we will be challenging for finals. Even this year we finished bottom 3 but most would be happy with kids and future.

I think it is so much more important that the club stick to the path and are patient. The 66 game List rebuild looking to "long term sustainable success". Change that and look to quick fixes and they will lose all credibility. What has been achieved in the past 2 years is so impressive. My opinion is stay the path, it will pay off big time
It's not really about the fifty thousand odd members it's about building it and not falling behind
We're number 11 in membership from 18
Take away gold coast and gws we're 11 from 16 and a corporate sponsorship that reflects that
At some point you do need to put your foot in the gas
Harker has a very salient point
You can bet your bottom dollar the club is worried
Any idea how much we are going to lose this year and fall further behind?
 
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