Analysis 2017 List Management Discussion - Part 3

[Tommy Alvin]

Would be due for his 300th in Rnd 15 next year against Port which is our home game at the MCG. We have a bye in Rnd 12.

We play Collingwood the week before but it's their home game.

We owe Port.

I can't think of a better reason to lift than playing for Simmo in his 300th.

Pity I have retired.

TA

 

[Aphrodite]

We owe Port.

I can't think of a better reason to lift than playing for Simmo in his 300th.

Pity I have retired.

TA

Shame it can't be against our arch rivals the Carringbush at a packed MCG.

 

[Mr_Plow]

Could be some juniors kid.

Agree that it doesn't look like Kerr.

 

[Red Bull]

Currently on 286 games.

Just about perfect for Simmo i reckon .
Will play most games to reach the 300 milestone but won't have to be flogged into the ground every week .
Been a great servant for the club through the toughest of times but can rest easy at seasons end knowing that he leaves the team ready to embark on a period of sustained success

 

[Omega Blue]

Murphy and Simpson dual milestones 250 and 300

 

[Tommy Alvin]

Shame it can't be against our arch rivals the Carringbush at a packed MCG.

Imagine if we are on a 3 game roll of wins and get to play an in form Port outfit.

It could be the week the Baby Blues gain belief in themselves and put the naysayers in their box.

I love October dreaming.

TA

 

[HARKER]

Justin? No he had sone talent.

Not a productive debate, but the answer is McGuane, M.

Marcus Davies. Probably the worst performer I saw on the track..........fortunately that didn't show up on game day.

 

[My name geoff]

After finally 'releasing Gibbs' (literally) the logical progression is releasing Docherty into the midfield.

Mullett's output actually stacks up pretty well with similar half backs..

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy...ayerStatus2=A&tid2=13&pid2=3564&fid2=S&type=A

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy...ayerStatus2=A&tid2=13&pid2=3564&fid2=S&type=A

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy...ayerStatus2=A&tid2=13&pid2=3564&fid2=S&type=A

Perfect fit age wise also, keeping all this information in mind..

Plowman(23) Jones(27) Weitering(20)
Mullett(27) Marchbank(21) Byrne(23)
Docherty(24) Cripps(23) Murphy(31)
Pickett(22) Casboult(28) SPS(20)
Silvagni(20) McKay(20) Rayner(19)

Kruezer(29) Charlie(21) Kennedy(21)

Lang(22) Cuningham(21) Ed(28) Fisher(20)

All of a sudden our age profile is looking a lot more competitive with our talent profile looking off the charts.

 

[footyfan1978]

Some of these people would have wanted to play Doull in the midfield and Scott Howell permanent defence.

Amazing!!!

 

[My name geoff]

Some of these people would have wanted to play Doull in the midfield and Scott Howell permanent defence.

Amazing!!!

Do you hear anyone calling for Simpson, Weitering, Byrne etc to play in the midfield?

People want to see players who are capable of playing in the midfield... playing in the midfield

 

[footyfan1978]

3 day tour from flightcentre??

Moorabin to Essendon airport ?

 

[footyfan1978]

People want to see players who are capable of playing in the midfield... playing in the midfield

and no one to defend of any quality.
Got it.

 

[Stiffler's Dad]

3 day tour from flightcentre??

It was meant to be a three hour tour but th the weather started getting rough.

 

[footyfan1978]

He’ll be picked up by one of the WA Volleyball teams

EFA

 

[My name geoff]

and non one to defend of any quality.
Got it.

Answer me this question:

Why do rookie players and Irish recruits have a tendency to start their careers off half back?

 

[Stiffler's Dad]

Ricky Mott for me.

My nightmare is that very tall expensive witches hat.

 

[Blue and Silver]

Half back is a good place to stick an outside player with dodgy defensive skills?

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[JustaBattler]

Im pretty stoked about how well SOS and Co have re-balanced the list over the last two draft/trade periods.
Defensive balance in particular is not only stacked with exciting youth but also has plenty of reserve in experience with Jones/Alex and Rowe and McCreadie/Williamson vying for positions. Mullett inclusion as an older recruit adds to depth.

Midfield is looking much deeper for 2018 ( Cripps and Ed back) but also Kennedy /Lang added with Charlie/SPS/Fisher/Cuningham/Pickett/Polson and #3 and #10 coming...

Forward line looks ordinary by comparison - but Mckay and Kerr and maybe LeBois should be pushing into 22 and Wright/Lamb will have to fight for inclusion as both Cripps and Kennedy will be 'resting' up forward on rotation and I expect Murphy to play a lot of HFF/Wing this year... IF we are lucky enough to score Raynor will be some welcome factor X.

To think that players like Fisher/Williamson/McCreadie will have their work cut out to get into starting 22 not to mention new draftees this year as well as some expected DFA action - it is a new Carlton.

A lot of work to go in this pre-season to make things gell - but all points towards Bolton having many more options to consider when developing a game plan week to week...

FA targets will become really clear during the season according to where the obvious 'holes' are if any...and SOS is already well placed with picks for the next trade/draft period and a lot of cashola.

All that Bolton has to achieve is another 20 or so games into the new core of youth and maintain a competitive game against any side we play to have set the Club up for rapid rise in 2019 and beyond. There wont be any huge thrashings copped this year s long as the engine room of Cripps/Kennedy/Ed/Kreuzer can stay on teh park and develop their own mojo with kids running off them.

 

[footyfan1978]

I’d shit bricks if it was bold and capitals. Threatened lol

RUN

 

[footyfan1978]

Answer me this question:

Why do rookie players and Irish recruits have a tendency to start their careers off half back?

Do they? I remember O'Hailpin at full back and thought he was shit there always.

Garlett off rookie list played as a forward.
Sam Jacobs off rookie list played as a ruck.
Generally I think you will find rookie players and Irish recruits played where the coaching staff believe they are best fit.

Put the bone down for your own good.

 

[Soapy V]

After finally 'releasing Gibbs' (literally) the logical progression is releasing Docherty into the midfield.

Mullett's output actually stacks up pretty well with similar half backs..

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy...ayerStatus2=A&tid2=13&pid2=3564&fid2=S&type=A

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy...ayerStatus2=A&tid2=13&pid2=3564&fid2=S&type=A

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy...ayerStatus2=A&tid2=13&pid2=3564&fid2=S&type=A

Perfect fit age wise also, keeping all this information in mind..

Plowman(23) Jones(27) Weitering(20)
Mullett(27) Marchbank(21) Byrne(23)
Docherty(24) Cripps(23) Murphy(31)
Pickett(22) Casboult(28) SPS(20)
Silvagni(20) McKay(20) Rayner(19)

Kruezer(29) Charlie(21) Kennedy(21)

Lang(22) Cuningham(21) Ed(28) Fisher(20)

All of a sudden our age profile is looking a lot more competitive with our talent profile looking off the charts.

I don't think it will be long before Macreadie Polson & Kerr are pushing for a regular spot. Makes it even better

 

[Iamcarlton]

You people saying doc should be in the mids are absolutely pulling yourselves. AA defender led league in marks and kicks. Yeah let’s move him. Dumb dumb dumb

Opinions mean nothing reality is that just about all players are asked to be and required to be flexible these days . To be able to play in different positions when needed . Docherty may never be a fulltime midfielder but he will need to be able to play in that position for when things go south due to injury or matchups that may release him elsewhere . Not having this flexibility or the ability to adequately present in the midfield is giving the opposition an advantage . Better get use to it as it will happen just a matter of how much .

 

[Blue and Silver]

As an aside, it's nice to see SOS isn't smitten by his own work, and is happy to let go underperformers he recruited.

Smedts, Gorringe, Palmer, Gallucci,

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[My name geoff]

Do they? I remember O'Hailpin at full back and thought he was shit there always.

Garlett off rookie list played as a forward.
Sam Jacobs off rookie list played as a ruck.
Generally I think you will find rookie players and Irish recruits played where the coaching staff believe they are best fit.

Put the bone down for your own good.

Let me frame this for you in a different way...

Why do clubs often say about flankers "we see him progressing into the midfield"but you never hear them talk about midfielders progressing to halfback?

 

[footyfan1978]

Let me frame this for you in a different way...

Let me put you out of your misery.
Do not bother trying to convince me stealing an AA quality defender like Docherty to plug up a weak spot in midfield but lessen the quality of our backline is a long term aim.
Think you will find we will continue to have Doch build that defence down there even stronger and teach all the youngsters like Willo etc, how to position themselves and rebound when needed.

Meanwhile in the midfield we will develop the next batch of elite mids there so we have elite backs like Docherty in backline and elite mids in middle as the long term aim and up forward we will aim to develop our young forwards into elite forwards.

You know it makes sense.