Analysis 2017 List Management Discussion Part II

[1981]

If its Kelly, Hopper and Whitfield for
2017-2018 1st and Casboult compo its and no brainer for me would do in a heartbeat
Whos to say the 1st rounders we would pick wouldn't be another Massie,Vance, livingstone
Watson , Boekhorst list goes on

That's better
But that's not what the rumour was
It was Hopper OR Whitfield

 

[ParapMarkets]

When was the last time pick 1 in the draft was traded?
Was it the Luke Hodge year?

Pick 1 in the draft is a massive trading chip, teams are extremely reluctant to trade it away. If those players agreed to come to us and GWS don't appreciate the value of pick one, let's trade it for 2 pretty good first round picks. Here you go GWS, here's 2 first round picks for Kelly (we don't even want a second rounder back because we are awesome) and pick 19 for Hopper.

 

[1981]

Unless he asks ...

Yes I just think it's very unlikely
And yes he needs to ask for it

I don't think he's a great leader so I'd jump at the deal, just can't see it happening

 

[FlowersByIrene]

The likelihood of any club being given a priority pick ever again is as remote as Elvis making a comeback.

Brisbane were given one two years ago??

 

[1981]

God we could go into 2019 with six pick ones on our list

 

[SafeAsMilk]

If its Kelly, Hopper and Whitfield for
2017-2018 1st and Casboult compo its and no brainer for me, would do in a heartbeat
Whos to say the 1st rounders we would pick wouldn't be another Massie,Vance, livingstone,Yarran
Watson , Boekhorst list goes on

We need to back ourselves at the draft if we're going to go anywhere. Besides, the first rounders could be the next Dangerfield and Franklin if we're playing that game.


IF we somehow get pick 18 compo for Casboult, and that gets Hopper done... would you trade pick 1-2 this year and possibly pick 1-2 next year for Kelly alone?

 

[LordLucifer]

Brisbane were given one two years ago??

Didn't deserve it and it would of been on the basis that QLD teams need to be successful for the ongoing growth of the code.

There is no chance that a Melbourne based club, especially us, will be given anything to assist us in our rebuild.

 

[Stig O'Hara]

Brisbane were given one two years ago??

Last year, after 24 wins in 4 years.

We're 23 wins with 3 rounds left.

Obviously we'd ask for it.

 

[rp84]

We need to back ourselves at the draft if we're going to go anywhere. Besides, the first rounders could be the next Dangerfield and Franklin if we're playing that game.


IF we somehow get pick 18 compo for Casboult, and that gets Hopper done... would you trade pick 1-2 this year and possibly pick 1-2 next year for Kelly alone?

Hopper worth much more than 18 alone.

That said, could have hopper and griffen for 18...maybe.

That salary is important

 

[PoultryinMotion]

Where would you play him,forward or back?

Although he is handy in defence our greatest need would suggest up forward. Has a good set of hands, nice kick, both at goal and to inside 50 options. He would be a great pick up.
It's becoming more and more evident that coaches are into players with positional flexibility at the moment. He does have a bit of sh1t about him too so the odd run on the ball isn't out of the question. (Seriously! Think Greenwood from Adelaide).

 

[G-TRAIN07]

https://thewest.com.au/sport/afl/em...d-with-afl-draft-combine-invite-ng-b88563569z

With Gorringe on his way out, fills a definite need.

Like.

Thinking outside the box. Like it

 

[HalloweenJack]

To be fair they've gone in Norm Smith winning order. Shannon Grant presented it last year to JJ as he won it in '99. Hird won it in 2000.

To be fair, the presentation of the Norm Smith medal in order was only a very recent occurrence and from where I sit it seems to be the AFL's plan to bring back Hird.

It is much too early to bring back Hird. He was the principal driver of the drugs policy and he has not been out in the cold for long enough.

 

[SafeAsMilk]

Hopper worth much more than 18 alone.

That said, could have hopper and griffen for 18...maybe.

That salary is important

Is he though?

 

[smashbox gill]

Overs for me.

Kelly and Hopper are both out of contract.

Kelly is not worth 2 x early 1st rounders. He's very good but hes not Judd good to deserve that sort of compensation.
Hopper is worth a mid-late 1st rounder.

I'd say Kelly + Hopper for 2017 1st, 2018 2nd + Casboult compo.

I would do the deal for all 3 though, but cant see GWS letting go of 3 midfielders in one trade period especially seeing how close they are to a premiership.

 

[RudyBlue]

I'm sure that post will go down well here.

2017/18 1st, Gibbs 1st rounder (16~18), Cas compo for Kelly and Hopper

 

[ESKIE]

God we could go into 2019 with six pick ones on our list

Yeh look at us...

 

[PoultryinMotion]

No ones trading for Casboult! All parties worse off!

Cas - gets lesser contract
Haw - loses assets
Car - gets less back than in free agency

Well there you have it!

 

[Unknown Origin]

No club can afford to 'float' around the bottom of the table for too long and certainly not us.
MLG knows this, Trigg knows this and if SOS didn't know early on, he'd know it by now.

Some supporters may say they can wait, but why wait and see when we should be doing something....for memberships, sponsorships, supporters etc.

If we finish bottom 3 for the next 3 years im out [emoji35]

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[Navara79]

I doubt Murphy would ask to be traded interstate. Especially when he and his wife have a baby on the way.

 

[Funk]

Another article in the copy of Inside Football that I picked up in Melbourne was "Dominant Duo Set For Draft" by Chris Pike writing about the WAFL.

He then named Tim Kelly & Haiden Schloithe from South Fremantle as 'prime examples of the potential advantages of raising the draft age'. Sloithe is 23yo and is averaging 30.7 disposals per game whilst Kelly is at 28.2, both are strong chances in the Sandover too.

I'm sure there are better judges at our club to know if they are worth bringing onto the playing list but based on the raw figures, they seem like they are well suited.

I'm hoping Sloithe is no "sloth"....

 

[rp84]

Is he though?

17 disposals and 5 tackles per game in a high pick being played mostly out of position.

Yes, he is worth more than pick 18 alone.

 

[ESKIE]

I would like to see us out of the bottom 4 next year...

 

[DangerousD]

Because it's targeting a ready made player rather than going to the draft???

The club has said it is after elite young talent, going after players who will be around for 10 seasons is the opposite to a quick fix.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Last year, after 24 wins in 4 years.

We're 23 wins with 3 rounds left.

Obviously we'd ask for it.

As we should

 

[DangerousD]

The likelihood of any club being given a priority pick ever again is as remote as Elvis making a comeback.

Agreed but the FA compo formula might through up a few surprises.