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So you're probably aware of the spreadsheets I keep posting everywhere. Well this will be something of a home for it I guess.
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We need an inside mid, yep. I'm still not convinced our team balance is right, why have 3 small forwards?
We can have 3 if they can rotate through the middle (see Bruest, Poppy, Rioli).
Not sure Green is good enough for that though, and I definitely agree we need a legitimate inside mid
I don't think we can effectively play Green and Coyler in the same 22, for a variety of reasons (or neither).
If that means 2 small forwards with Langford and Myers swapping as a medium sized forward mid (or Laverde when he's back) then drop both of them and get some size on the park.
The biggest problem with those two players is not just structural but it is questionable that they are AFL standard, at least for good teams.
With Green, he can't run so all of the theory about pressure is just that, theory.
Colyer's application is inconsistent as a player in his 8th year. Give his inability around the contest if he is not covering Scully sort of miles I really don't see the point of his selection.
So as a matter of team balance that is two players who really only emphasise weakness for the addition of anoccasional burst of speed and the ability to crumb and use the ball.
Someone mentioned playing Colyer as a small forward but I don't see why we would. Fantasia and Tippa are both the most dangerous forwards and the hardest workers.
I think that what we need is five permanent forward positions in any week. The three key forwards and two dedicated mid-sized or small forwards which would be rotated based on the make up of the rest of the team.
The sixth forward is essentially a forward who is a genuine part of the midfield rotation. More often than not the fifth dedicated forward should also be part of the midfield rotation. This is especially the case because Stewart and Daniher are as athletic as they are.
I'd go as far as saying that two dedicated small forwards could almost be too many. The perception about these guys is that it is necessary to have players under 180cm as though somethin magicalhappens. Laverde, Langford, Redman (though I want him in defence), Long and to a less extent Begley could comfortably fit into a side as notional small forwards.
Not saying that Fantasia and Tippa are not clearly best 22 players but when we get pummelled by the bottom team on the ladder and can hardly win a midfield clearance all year the it's pretty clear that more attention to team balance is required.
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ROUNDS 12-17
Contested Possession Differential: +6 (5th)
Clearance Differential: +3 (5th)
Inside 50 Differential: +10 (2nd)
Pts For: 107 (1st)
Pts Against: 75 (3rd)
*Courtesy of Champion Data
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/th...t/news-story/cb0d130a542206de472840deb1ec6aec
Shock, Horror!
Worsfold says that Laverde and Begley can play Green's role.
2017 H&A SEASON
2017 AFL POWER RANKINGS
POINTS PER INSIDE 50 FOR
An insight in to a teams forward line efficiency success rate once the ball enters their forward 50 metre arc.
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POINTS PER INSIDE 50 AGA
An insight in to a teams defensive capabilities success rate once the ball enters their opponents forward 50 metre arc.
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I think we have the nucleus of a strong midfield with some of the young guns we have already. Just need to continue to add depth.Great numbers. It really highlights where we need to improve - the midfield - and where our attention should be this off-season. If we can get that midfield right, either through draft / trading / free agency or natural improvement, then we are well on our way to becoming a top four team.
Based on this we are the second best team in the comp. Tells you where the work needs to be done.2017 H&A SEASON
2017 AFL POWER RANKINGS
POINTS PER INSIDE 50 FOR
An insight in to a teams forward line efficiency success rate once the ball enters their forward 50 metre arc.
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POINTS PER INSIDE 50 AGA
An insight in to a teams defensive capabilities success rate once the ball enters their opponents forward 50 metre arc.
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Yep.Based on this we are the second best team in the comp. Tells you where the work needs to be done.
The thing is, our midfield has improved considerably over since Port Adelaide which is why we should have won five in a row.Yep.
If we had an even slightly better midfield we would be better in both attack and defence.
Building very nicely.
Coming good at the right time of the year. Woosha did say it was going to happen.The thing is, our midfield has improved considerably over since Port Adelaide which is why we should have won five in a row.
Given we're probably going to see a bit of turnover in this area over the off-season I thought it'd be interesting to look at the structure, selections and depth in the midfield/forward part of our list, and see if we can figure out where the holes are (aside from "we need Dustin Martin" etc. which is as obvious as the sash on our jumper).
It seems that seven defenders (one starting on the bench), a ruckman and three tall forwards are non-negotiable. That's 11 players accounted for.
The other 11 rotate between one defensive rebound role (this year usually Merrett, sometimes Goddard or Colyer), up to three general forward roles (Raz, Walla and Green predominantly, although all three roll through the midfield), two or three bench spots, and the other five mid/on-ball roles.
So who are they? Who of our current senior list should be in there in 2018? What does our depth look like in these roles? How would you split game time between inside/outside and forward? Who gets more midfield time?
Zach Merrett
Brendon Goddard
Travis Colyer
Orazio Fantasia
Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti
Jayden Laverde
Josh Green
Joshua Begley
Jackson Merrett
Dyson Heppell
David Zaharakis
Darcy Parish
David Myers
Jobe Watson
Brent Stanton
Kyle Langford
Craig Bird
Ben Howlett
Heath Hocking
Kobe Mutch
Dylan Clarke
Aaron Francis
Andrew McGrath
Mason Redman
Alex Morgan
*You can include a Martin/Hopper/Josh Kelly etc. "type" in a hypothetical structure but please be mindful that trade discussion belongs in the trade thread*
I'm worried he's not going to make enough hard calls going forward. We are a big chance to miss the 8 with an easy draw and the healthiest list in the comp.