2017 Trade and FA thread

[M Malice]

It's probably time we did tank Lions are building nicely but Rayner looks like a jet and we need forwards

I do really like Rayner for his X factor but I am warming to Paddy Dow or Nick Coffield.

#lionsdonottank

 

[BangyBangy]

We need mids and we're not pathetic. Sorry to disappoint....

This. Plus, at the end of the day, I'm not sure the blatant tanking approach has ever been successful. The media harp on about it a fair bit, but I don't think teams do it. The only two teams to look like they have tanked for the top draft pick in recent years haven't exactly met success yet. In fact, one might get the spoon again this year.

 

[bungalow_bill]

Tanking creates a losing culture and is not great for team morale. And pick 1 is almost never the best player. We can win games and get the best player with 2 or 3.

 

[Carlos Danger]

I agree we'll probably win 2 out of last 3 but think Rayner who can midfield is the standout player in this years draft think he'd look great in Lions colors

We need mids, Rayner won't be able to play midfield for long will take a while to be ready. And if his endurance is bad then he will prob just be another 1 way runner we don't need.

Rather a genuine mid & look towards some rookie / trade options for pressure forwards. Then there's always Rankine to strive for next year who wil be ready to play straight away & will be a strong forward line addittion

 

[M Malice]

Tanking creates a losing culture and is not great for team morale. And pick 1 is almost never the best player. We can win games and get the best player with 2 or 3.

Nathan Fyfe- pick 20, 2009.
Patrick Dangerfield- pick 10, 2007.
Joel Selwood- pick 7, 2006.
Dustin Martin- pick 3, 2009.
Sam Mitchell- pick 36, 2001.
Marcus Bontempelli- pick 4, 2013.

 

[Fitzroy bears]

I think Taylor's only really poor season was last year. In 2015 Taylor had a few 30 possession 3 goal games he has been really good this year though

Taylor had an avg. 20.2 disposals with a DE% 74.7 which was 2.9% better then any other player in our team averaging 20 or possessions during the 2015 season so your right on the money.

He also avg. more marks per game at 4.2
Edit: I should clarify that the marks avg is his best seasonal avg.

 

[Fitzroy bears]

I think Taylor's only really poor season was last year. In 2015 Taylor had a few 30 possession 3 goal games he has been really good this year though

Would also like to add that his season this year has been miles better in tackles and goal assists 2.8 tackles a game and 16 GA ( 9 better then the next best so far)

 

[Lace Out]

Taylor has got the gist of it,better and more consistent footy to come.Remember a few dozen posters here writing him off.

 

[cotter101]

Taylor had an avg. 20.2 disposals with a DE% 74.7 which was 2.9% better then any other player in our team averaging 20 or possessions during the 2015 season so your right on the money.

He also avg. more marks per game at 4.2
Edit: I should clarify that the marks avg is his best seasonal avg.

Taylor is far from a player you could judge of the stat sheet. He's never done much damage with it until this year.

 

[Codeforgolions]

I agree we'll probably win 2 out of last 3 but think Rayner who can midfield is the standout player in this years draft think he'd look great in Lions colors

Totally agree. Rayner is a clear number one.
And to the weather girls in the Brisbane Lions and Fitzroy cheer squads, take it away

It's Rayner lions!! Hallelujah!
It's Rayner lions!!Amen
I'm gonna go out, to the game and let myself get,
Absolutely excited,
It's Rayner Lions,Hallelujah It's Rayner Lions,
Hips,Zorks,Cox and look theirs more, (etc etc)

 

[BrizzyBandit]

Totally agree. Rayner is a clear number one.
And to the weather girls in the Brisbane Lions and Fitzroy cheer squads, take it away

It's Rayner lions!! Hallelujah!
It's Rayner lions!!Amen
I'm gonna go out, to the game and let myself get,
Absolutely excited,
It's Rayner Lions,Hallelujah It's Rayner Lions,
Hips,Zorks,Cox and look theirs more, (etc etc)

Oh no

 

[BRAB]

Totally agree. Rayner is a clear number one.
And to the weather girls in the Brisbane Lions and Fitzroy cheer squads, take it away

It's Rayner lions!! Hallelujah!
It's Rayner lions!!Amen
I'm gonna go out, to the game and let myself get,
Absolutely excited,
It's Rayner Lions,Hallelujah It's Rayner Lions,
Hips,Zorks,Cox and look theirs more, (etc etc)

Reported

 

[Codeforgolions]

Oh no

I take it ,it brings back great moments and memories of the disco 80's era for you ,partying hard Or quote - "Fitzroy's most significant post-war success was in the early '80s, when the Lions made the finals four times, culminating in a preliminary final appearance in 1986. "

 

[Codeforgolions]

Reported

For being a party animal? Absolutely!!!

 

[carnthemlions]

We need mids, Rayner won't be able to play midfield for long will take a while to be ready. And if his endurance is bad then he will prob just be another 1 way runner we don't need.

Rather a genuine mid & look towards some rookie / trade options for pressure forwards. Then there's always Rankine to strive for next year who wil be ready to play straight away & will be a strong forward line addittion

Watching Petracca this season, I wouldn't want a player with a similar body type but worse endurance. Petracca looks flat out ungainly most of the time, and I think it limits him as a player as well.

 

[briztoon]

I'm gonna stick my hand up and say I'm not sold on Charlie Cameron. I really wouldn't be happy if it cost our third pick in trade for CC.

 

[Codeforgolions]

Watching Petracca this season, I wouldn't want a player with a similar body type but worse endurance. Petracca looks flat out ungainly most of the time, and I think it limits him as a player as well.

The one thing i have trouble with is comparisons. Petracca is Petracca . Rayner is Rayner. We seem to forgot Rayner is kid. Will he make it ,will he not? It is up to him and not C Petracca. let this young kid player the way he wants ,in his own right, as C Rayner. He may have strenghts and weaknesses but so has every other player in the league. I personally ( from what i have seen) feel is strengths outweigh his deficiencies. Only time will tell. Every player we draft may or may not make it. The question is , is Rayner worthy of a chance to play at club that has a tremendous history behind it.My answer is an unequivocal YES!!!

 

[Fitzroy bears]

Taylor is far from a player you could judge of the stat sheet. He's never done much damage with it until this year.

Fair enough. I would suggest that his role from year to year may have implications or determine his impact on games, but it would be mere speculation on my behalf. I like his role he plays this year, plays more to his strengths. Game plan may have a lot to do with this too.

 

[jjami15]

I'm gonna stick my hand up and say I'm not sold on Charlie Cameron. I really wouldn't be happy if it cost our third pick in trade for CC.

I wouldn't either, I do remember hearing on one of the forums here awhile back that we might be into Sicily and he us. I would be ok if we were able to move back from our pick 18 to acquire two more second rounders (I had GC in mind at the time) to get both. In saying that though I really do want to be able to draft 3 mid types with our first 3 (and then Ballenden). I would be ok if Rocky left, we got end of rd1 compo and something like above was to happen. Only problem is Cameron is contracted and we do pay slightly overs when trading IMO.

 

[dlanod]

Nathan Fyfe- pick 20, 2009.
Patrick Dangerfield- pick 10, 2007.
Joel Selwood- pick 7, 2006.
Dustin Martin- pick 3, 2009.
Sam Mitchell- pick 36, 2001.
Marcus Bontempelli- pick 4, 2013.

Lewis Taylor- pick 28, 2013.

FTFY.

 

[Fatcat08]

Nathan Fyfe- pick 20, 2009.
Patrick Dangerfield- pick 10, 2007.
Joel Selwood- pick 7, 2006.
Dustin Martin- pick 3, 2009.
Sam Mitchell- pick 36, 2001.
Marcus Bontempelli- pick 4, 2013.

Lewis Taylor- pick 28, 2013.

FTFY.

Jokes aside i'd probably take Kelly at pick 2. He's everything you want in a top line mid, very well balanced inside and out, uses it well, runs hard, is damaging with his possessions. Would be a tight call between him and Bont with Merrett just sitting below them.

 

[LongLion]

Taylor has got the gist of it,better and more consistent footy to come.Remember a few dozen posters here writing him off.

SURELY NOT?? Hard to believe BF posters would be so shallow as to suggest such a thing.

 

[Carlos Danger]

Jokes aside i'd probably take Kelly at pick 2. He's everything you want in a top line mid, very well balanced inside and out, uses it well, runs hard, is damaging with his possessions. Would be a tight call between him and Bont with Merrett just sitting below them.

Aish doesn't get a look in?

 

[scoman]

Aish doesn't get a look in?

Its actually looking pretty embarrassing for us for taking him at 7. 2013 was a super draft year. What a waste he turned out to be.

 

[Len S]

SURELY NOT?? Hard to believe BF posters would be so shallow as to suggest such a thing.

Not just Lewey copped it consistently, but all tbat group pretty much,McStay, Gardiner,Cutler...