2017 Trade and FA thread

[Eons]

His value is plummeting by the week. Still think we'll give up pick 18 and get something coming back our way.

 

[jackess]

Do Cameron and Christensen play different roles or would they be competing for the same space?

Cameron is more of a line breaker while Bundy is more inside or on the spread.

 

[chopperduck]

still the type of player that would add to our forward line. 18 is overs but we dont have many other picks. so I'd imagine we will use 18 and get a later pick coming back our way. pick could be handy for points for Ballenden.

 

[a mayes ing]

One thing we need to note is that how often does a player play terrible footy when contracts or potential moves are on his mind. We have seen plenty of it, maybe he is playing well below his standard atm and when he comes to Brisbane, we might see a completly different player.

 

[Dalions]

One thing we need to note is that how often does a player play terrible footy when contracts or potential moves are on his mind. We have seen plenty of it, maybe he is playing well below his standard atm and when he comes to Brisbane, we might see a completly different player.

I also think that he will suit our stule of play really well and will compliment Taylor.

 

[SizeMatters]

One thing we need to note is that how often does a player play terrible footy when contracts or potential moves are on his mind. We have seen plenty of it, maybe he is playing well below his standard atm and when he comes to Brisbane, we might see a completly different player.

Might also see much the same. He is playing in a far stronger team than what we could offer him. I don't know many who become better players moving to a weaker team. Our contested ball winning abilities aren't nowhere near as strong as the Crows (1st v 18th) so I worry that he won't get as much opportunity on the outside as he does with them... not a big ball winner as it is.

 

[a mayes ing]

Might also see much the same. He is playing in a far stronger team than what we could offer him. I don't know many who become better players moving to a weaker team. Our contested ball winning abilities aren't nowhere near as strong as the Crows (1st v 18th) so I worry that he won't get as much opportunity on the outside as he does with them... not a big ball winner as it is.

Yep, also a massive concern l have. We are significantly worse than Crows, less I50, less contested ball. Although our clearances are okay but we can't capitalise. Also, he isn't a massive goalkicker either. Ideally, his defensive pressure is pretty good but if he could combine that with better offensive movement then that would be great. In any case, his speed is something we do need

 

[Dom PC]

2 months ago i would have accepted giving up ports 1st rd pick (~12-16) for Cameron. Now i feel like we will be giving slightly overs with our 2nd rd pick (~18-20).

Our 2nd rd pick is probably fair though considering he is contracted.

 

[Squiba]

He was great early in the season, but now looks like his head is anywhere but the game. Considering your picks, your 2nd for Cameron and our 3rd or similar would be plenty enough.

 

[Sherrinator]

He was great early in the season, but now looks like his head is anywhere but the game. Considering your picks, your 2nd for Cameron and our 3rd or similar would be plenty enough.

I think you are spot on tbh

 

[captainrich]

He was great early in the season, but now looks like his head is anywhere but the game. Considering your picks, your 2nd for Cameron and our 3rd or similar would be plenty enough.

lol considering it will be like a 30+ pick downgrade don't think that will happen

 

[lionshine]

Might also see much the same. He is playing in a far stronger team than what we could offer him. I don't know many who become better players moving to a weaker team. Our contested ball winning abilities aren't nowhere near as strong as the Crows (1st v 18th) so I worry that he won't get as much opportunity on the outside as he does with them... not a big ball winner as it is.

I feel like Cameron is perhaps pigeon holed as an outside player due to his pace. He is actually capable of winning the contested footy himself. His contested possession stats stack up pretty well over the course of his career and are on an upward trajectory year after year. Over the past 2 seasons he is wavering around 6 contested possessions a game which is solid considering the role he plays. He isn't a high possession winner.

I still think Cameron would be a great addition. His focus definitely appears to be elsewhere at the moment, perhaps on the family troubles that are rumoured to be taking place back here that he supposedly wants to return for and this is likely impacting his form. His form earlier on in the year was good and he was more than handy in 2015/2016. Only his 4th year as well so has plenty of improvement left in him and I feel like Fagan and Co. can get the best out of him if he comes up here for a fresh start with a clear mind just like they have with the likes of Taylor, Robertson, McStay, Mayes ect. this season.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Pardon my intrusion, but just a quick question to you guys. Out of these two Cameron deals, which do you reckon you'd prefer? Both value him at a pick at around 25-30, which at this stage (considering contract status, current output etc) is probably fair.

13 for Cameron and 35
18 for Cameron and 53

 

[BangyBangy]

Pardon my intrusion, but just a quick question to you guys. Out of these two Cameron deals, which do you reckon you'd prefer? Both value him at a pick at around 25-30, which at this stage (considering contract status, current output etc) is probably fair.

13 for Cameron and 35
18 for Cameron and 53

No. Just no. To both.

 

[BangyBangy]

Pardon my intrusion, but just a quick question to you guys. Out of these two Cameron deals, which do you reckon you'd prefer? Both value him at a pick at around 25-30, which at this stage (considering contract status, current output etc) is probably fair.

13 for Cameron and 35
18 for Cameron and 53

It's this or nothing.

 

[Danger in Texas]

It's this or nothing.

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Will genuinely laugh if that happens, both at my club for getting a shit deal and at the fact that one of the trade ideas in that article actually came true

 

[BangyBangy]

Will genuinely laugh if that happens, both at my club for getting a shit deal and at the fact that one of the trade ideas in that article actually came true

Lol. We all loved that article too. Hell would freeze over before we traded Taylor for Cameron in a straight swap let alone with the additional steak knives.

 

[lions27]

Swap of 3rd round picks for Charlie and everyone is happy.

 

[BuntonRules]

He was great early in the season, but now looks like his head is anywhere but the game. Considering your picks, your 2nd for Cameron and our 3rd or similar would be plenty enough.

lol considering it will be like a 30+ pick downgrade don't think that will happen

He is just letting you know that if you make him stay, he will be of no use to you - don;t try the hard bargain. Our third is enough by itself.

 

[lioninthesand]

Hanley has fallen away badly this year he is an average footballer these days, we cashed out at the right time.

 

[Milux]

Hanley has fallen away badly this year he is an average footballer these days, we cashed out at the right time.

I feel for Hanley. Has had a shocker but lets not forget the family tragedy at the start of the season. Plus had his injury concerns. While i agree we cashed out at a good time its not because he cant play anymore. Hope to see him back to his best next season.

 

[lionshine]

I've heard from multiple different people(albeit not the most reliable) that David Zaharakis could be on his way to the Lions next year. Supposedly we are offering him a 3 year deal whereas the Bombers are only offering him 1 or 2. I was also listening to a draft podcast on SEN with Brett Anderson and someone called up and mentioned he's heard Zaharakis might be joining us(I know, I know it is SEN) and there is a poster on the Bombers board who is linking him to us. I usually wouldn't take too much notice of that but after hearing of similar things myself it did take my interest. He'll be 28 next year and is in his prime. A 3 year deal would have him on our list from the age of 28-30 and he'll likely play the best footy of his career within that timeframe so I can kind of understand the clubs interest.

He's been in terrific form in the second half of this year. His disposal counts from Round 8 to Round 22:

Rounds-
8- 31
9- 31
10- 35
11- 21
12- 26
13- Bye
14- 28
15- 17
16- 38
17- 32
18- 27
19- 32
20- 33
21- 26
22- 38

So as you can see he's been racking up the footy and he's a good ball user. I'm not too fussed either away on this one but I think he improves our chances of being competitive and rising up the ladder over the next three years and I'm all for that.

 

[Keays2myBeamas]

I've heard from multiple different people(albeit not the most reliable) that David Zaharakis could be on his way to the Lions next year. Supposedly we are offering him a 3 year deal whereas the Bombers are only offering him 1 or 2. I was also listening to a draft podcast on SEN with Brett Anderson and someone called up and mentioned he's heard Zaharakis might be joining us(I know, I know it is SEN) and there is a poster on the Bombers board who is linking him to us. I usually wouldn't take too much notice of that but after hearing of similar things myself it did take my interest. He'll be 28 next year and is in his prime. A 3 year deal would have him on our list from the age of 28-30 and he'll likely play the best footy of his career within that timeframe so I can kind of understand the clubs interest.

He's been in terrific form in the second half of this year. His disposal counts from Round 8 to Round 22:

Rounds-
8- 31
9- 31
10- 35
11- 21
12- 26
13- Bye
14- 28
15- 17
16- 38
17- 32
18- 27
19- 32
20- 33
21- 26
22- 38

So as you can see he's been racking up the footy and he's a good ball user. I'm not too fussed either away on this one but I think he improves our chances of being competitive and rising up the ladder over the next three years and I'm all for that.

Certainly fills a need short term and wouldn't cost anything other than cap space. Exactly the same age as Beams and Rocky though, he's not the ideal age but that doesn't mean it's not worth considering.

But realistically... Brisbane? Why would he bother

 

[LongLion]

Certainly fills a need short term and wouldn't cost anything other than cap space. Exactly the same age as Beams and Rocky though, he's not the ideal age but that doesn't mean it's not worth considering.

But realistically... Brisbane? Why would he bother

Cos we are now a destination team.... Browny has spoken

 

[trikster]

I've heard from multiple different people(albeit not the most reliable) that David Zaharakis could be on his way to the Lions next year. Supposedly we are offering him a 3 year deal whereas the Bombers are only offering him 1 or 2. I was also listening to a draft podcast on SEN with Brett Anderson and someone called up and mentioned he's heard Zaharakis might be joining us(I know, I know it is SEN) and there is a poster on the Bombers board who is linking him to us. I usually wouldn't take too much notice of that but after hearing of similar things myself it did take my interest. He'll be 28 next year and is in his prime. A 3 year deal would have him on our list from the age of 28-30 and he'll likely play the best footy of his career within that timeframe so I can kind of understand the clubs interest.

He's been in terrific form in the second half of this year. His disposal counts from Round 8 to Round 22:

Rounds-
8- 31
9- 31
10- 35
11- 21
12- 26
13- Bye
14- 28
15- 17
16- 38
17- 32
18- 27
19- 32
20- 33
21- 26
22- 38

So as you can see he's been racking up the footy and he's a good ball user. I'm not too fussed either away on this one but I think he improves our chances of being competitive and rising up the ladder over the next three years and I'm all for that.

I really hope not. Why bring in someone in their late 20's when you are trying to build towards a premiership in a number of years time. Wrong age demographic for us.