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top 5 in the Brownlow last year .
All australian
Eagles best and fairest
averages 30 touches a game for more than 3 years running .
top 2 elite runners in the afl
Yes gaff is an a grader

No he's not, he's fools gold, 1 contested possession, 2 tackles and 2 inside 50's on the weekend. Not bad for an A grader. Just because you can run all day and get possessions running up and down the boundary line doesn't make you an A grader.
He can't kick with his right foot, is slow and constantly calls for the ball on his wrong side only to be tackled.
He doesn't kick many goals and has averaged less than 2 tackles a game.
notice how teams never tag him, they don't care if he gets the ball he doesn't do any damage with it whatsoever.



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Karl Langdon‏ @Karl6pr 5m5 minutes ago
As stated on Saturday Mark Lecras 1 yr deal on reduced terms. Announcement imminent

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Walked in there one day and there were two Rottweilers running around. Then went to play a game of pool and there was only one white ball between about three tables. Sat down at the bar with my mate and nearly got into a fight with some bloke who got into my face for no reason and wouldn't calm down. It was about 11 in the morning on a weekday
 

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The only spot on the list i'd be content with Lecras taking is a rookie spot.

That way Simpson can't just play him over and over again without consequence like he has thus far.

10 rounds into 2018 and we'll be in the exact same situation with Lecras as we have been the past 2 seasons. Runs on the board, not going to be omitted.
I like your thinking. Simpson would need to make a conscious decision to elevate an old fart instead of playing Waterman or Rioli or Venables.
 
Walked in there one day and there were two Rottweilers running around. Then went to play a game of pool and there was only one white ball between about three tables. Sat down at the bar with my mate and nearly got into a fight with some bloke who got into my face for no reason and wouldn't calm down. It was about 11 in the morning on a weekday

Seems legit :dogface::dogface::dogface::D:D:D:thumbsu::thumbsu::thumbsu:


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To understand the trade needs, we need to forecast where our development is likely to be with our younger players. I loved the approach from Richmond that meant the club went back to why they recruited the young guys and then played them in their original position of strength and not where others wanted them to play.

2016 Draftees
Venables - he was injured and for the 3rd year in a row, he missed a large chunk of the season. That said, he looks quality and a real option on the HFF. Let us not let him fester at East Perth. I would play Venables ahead of Cripps, Hill and LeCras as a smaller forward. He has pace and class.
Rotham - we got very little from our 2nd round pick (rarely do) yet he possesses the pace and the kicking skills we need either on the wing or HBF. We have to prioritise him during the summer to get him ready to challenge for a spot/free up a HBF to allow other to go to the midfield. He must make sure it is 45 plus a day he puts into the gym.
Rioli - a crumbing forward is a position of huge needs and he looks the goods. Fitness is still the priority and he should be prioritised by the match committee. He would benefit from a really good mentor to inspire him. He needs to make sure he is fit enough to provide defensive pressure.
Waterman - injured and will hopefully be knocking next season. The biggest concern will be does he play Jack's position or can we play both in the forward line? either way, he will possibly need to be very high and hunt up the ground so he must build a tank.
Gorter - still struggling to understand him and see no need for him so stay at East Perth assuming he is still on the list.
Watson - showed loads early as a small and dashing defender capable of taking on the likes of Betts and Green. Can a lot of attacking flair so now need to teach him poise and focus on decision making.

2015 Draftees
Partington - showed enough late this year. He needs to build his rig and his tank and just put in hard over the summer to be the inside mid that warranted our second round pick. Assuming he does, give him a sustained run and let him find his way at AFL. One thing he needs to do is to learn how to rove to NicNat. He is more inside that outside midfield.
Cole - he is a genuine midfield and HBF. His preseason was almost non existent so a really good summer should see him fit and ready with more bulk and a bigger tank meaning we trust him in the midfield.
Mutimer - I do not have high hopes here as he looks depth. Whilst his couple of games gave some hope, I would not be that confident he is truly AFL standard. He was an inside/outside mid when we drafted him but he was not a high possession winner, line breaker or inside bull. Pity as we could have chosen Mountford who went 3 places after Kurt.
Allen - a second or third tall forward, more in the lead up role than the pack mark. He needs to put together a body of work with East Perth because he has not done that yet and will need to prove he has the goods. I real danger year for him as Waterman may well overtake him and Darling and Kennedy are automatic picks meaning little scope to shine.

2014 Draftees
Duggan - he needs to shave that bum fluff off his top lip and become that defensive midfielder. He now has a tank and I think the Scott Selwood run with/defensive midfielder is where he plays best. Forget Hutchings - Dugs is our man. Besides, no tagging role he can still offer a lot.
Lamb - probably off at year end but if not, then play him wing or HBF. His issue is staying in the game and I would like the club to get Beau Waters to mentor him. Not with millennium soft love - a bit of Beau the hard arse development.
Nelson - predominantly a HBF who played a some midfield. Showed prior to injury that his best could be as a running HBF. Did not have the confidence when he returned from broken bone but suggest we hold back making him a midfielder to allow him to master his HBF craft and to develop his tank.

I would write up Karpany but to go back to 2013 draft means they are starting their 5th year at the club and come on - that is half the career of a sucessful AFL player. He is depth.

JLT Series (not just opener)
  • Defense: Frankie to the back pocket, Rotham to take the kick ins and play off the likes of McGovern and Barrass offering options, Nelson as a rebounding and fast running defender, Lamb as the third tall
  • C/Midfield: Duggan as defensive mid, Redden as ruck rover, Sheed as centre and Partington as rover. Cole to come in for second rotation with Duggan.
  • Forwards: Waterman to be given a go in pocket with Rioli on the other side. Use Vardy as CHF freeing up Darling.
Now we will need coaches that can bring a game plan to suit what we have got. That said, we cannot go with 3 talls in defence and 2 ruckman. The game has gone past that.
Don't you need to pick 2 ruckman though in case 1 of them breaks down with injury.
 
Can you state in which team Venables played as a midfielder?

From the games I have seen and read reports on, he is a forward who can take a turn in midfield.

Priddis told us he’s a midfielder like shuey [emoji6]


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Probably will rotate off a flank into the midfield early in his career, naming a forward line that includes him and five full time forwards is fairly realistic I'd have thought.
 
Probably will rotate off a flank into the midfield early in his career, naming a forward line that includes him and five full time forwards is fairly realistic I'd have thought.

I thought he was the next Judd/cousins hybrid. Or is that partington [emoji8]


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I'd almost prefer Venables is a half forward anyway. Impossible to find someone to play that role well - if he can then he should spend as much time as he needs there.

Draft more mids.
 
Don't you need to pick 2 ruckman though in case 1 of them breaks down with injury.
Not needing 2 ruckmen any more. Play a KPF and let them give a chop out in the ruck or cover if an injury occurs.

Adelaide only have 1 in Jacobs with Jenkins as back up. GWS only played Lobb last week with Patton as back up. Geelong play 2 but Stanley is not their preferred option and was filling in for Lonergan, Blicavs was chop out previous week. Sydney play 2 but really only have Plan A working. Doggies 1, Port 1, it goes on.
 
Not needing 2 ruckmen any more. Play a KPF and let them give a chop out in the ruck or cover if an injury occurs.

Adelaide only have 1 in Jacobs with Jenkins as back up. GWS only played Lobb last week with Patton as back up. Geelong play 2 but Stanley is not their preferred option and was filling in for Lonergan, Blicavs was chop out previous week. Sydney play 2 but really only have Plan A working. Doggies 1, Port 1, it goes on.
Agree. Which is why we should trade the Slyce.
 

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Not needing 2 ruckmen any more. Play a KPF and let them give a chop out in the ruck or cover if an injury occurs.

Adelaide only have 1 in Jacobs with Jenkins as back up. GWS only played Lobb last week with Patton as back up. Geelong play 2 but Stanley is not their preferred option and was filling in for Lonergan, Blicavs was chop out previous week. Sydney play 2 but really only have Plan A working. Doggies 1, Port 1, it goes on.

Depends on your first ruckman I think. If you've got someone like Gawn or Jacobs who can ruck for 85% of the game you can get away with a key position player backing him up.

If you've got a more explosive ruckman, especially one who's coming off a year-long knee rehab, you probably need a bit more backup for him.
 
Depends on your first ruckman I think. If you've got someone like Gawn or Jacobs who can ruck for 85% of the game you can get away with a key position player backing him up.

If you've got a more explosive ruckman, especially one who's coming off a year-long knee rehab, you probably need a bit more backup for him.
Back up is fine but not wanting both selected.

I am thinking Vardy at CHF and chopping out in the ruck will be a better set up in 2018. Darling will benefit and hence much greater need for a genuine crumbed.
 
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