2017 trade/draft thread

[Colonel Kurtz]

Not sure whether all this Gaff talk coming out of eastern states is based on something real and/or genuine indications he wants to go home at end of current contract or is just a load of ill informed rubbish and a pipe dream from a couple of Melbourne clubs. My first instinct is that it is probably a load of rubbish. But it has been mentioned so much, so many times and even with detail about which clubs are leading the chase that i am starting to wonder if where there is smoke there is fire.

What you would hope is going on within the club is a mature, unemotional and honest conversation with Gaff about what his intentions are at the end of next season so we can make a plan.

 

[squashface]

How have we been sleeping on this kid?

Don't trust a man with two first names

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

It will be interesting to see whether we hear from Rawlings (who is our list manager) over the next 2 weeks. Seems like he may well hold less power that with other clubs. Vozzo seems to be taking a leaf out of Nisbett's book - inability to empower and delegate.

Unless he's empowered Rawlings to get on with the actual list management and not bother about doing the media rounds?

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Unless he's empowered Rawlings to get on with the actual list management and not bother about doing the media rounds?

True - let's see.

 

[swannies]

Most posters have been saying that we should only trade him if he indicates that he doesn't want to be here long term and may explore free agency next year, so maybe he has said he has no interest in ever leaving the club so therefore we have no interest in trading him.

i have a mind to card you for being sensible. There is no place in this thread for that. Histrionics only, thanks.

 

[Colonel Kurtz]

I personally think that the current free agent system is pretty flawed. It is very unfair for clubs to lose players they have invested draft picks and years of development into for nowhere near their market value. The AFL should come up with an algorithm for coming up with an conservative estimate of a players value on the free market in terms of draft picks and the club chasing the free agent should be required to offer that to the club the player is leaving in order to sign the player. There should be some kind of price floor put in place to make sure that the club the player is leaving doesn't get totally screwed and that there is some kind of cost to the club enticing the player to leave. The current system doesn't fairly evaluate players and compensate the club the player is leaving and the cost of the compensation pick that goes to the club is born by all the other clubs rather than the club recieving the player as it should be.

 

[Miasi]

I'm disappointed that Vozzo has come out and said that Gaff is not going to be traded. Whilst I get the argument that we shouldn't weaken the midfield further, he was our best shot at getting a better draft position this year.

Agreed sounds like an underwhelming trade period again

 

[Colonel Kurtz]

i have a mind to card you for being sensible. There is no place in this thread for that. Histrionics only, thanks.

We need to be really thorough in trying to figure out what his intentions are. Encourage him to be honest. Tell him that whatever he tells the club will stay within the inner sanctum of the club and not get leaked to the media and that there will be no blowblack on him in terms of being ostracised by team mates or fans next season if he tells us he plans to leave. And if he does tell us he wants to leave we need to not be in denial about it and refuse to accept it and get on with organising the best deal we can for him.

 

[Hairy Lager]

Freo and Carlton are interested in everyone, they are like that slutty girl from school.

Go on...

 

[swannies]

We need to be really thorough in trying to figure out what his intentions are. Encourage him to be honest. Tell him that whatever he tells the club will stay within the inner sanctum of the club and not get leaked to the media and that there will be no blowblack on him in terms of being ostracised by team mates or fans next season if he tells us he plans to leave. And if he does tell us he wants to leave we need to not be in denial about it and refuse to accept it and get on with organising the best deal we can for him.

I am surprised by this, and don't take it the wrong way Colonel, but I agree with you. As long as we are sure of his long term intentions. Loyalty goes both ways, the club has to show it as well as the player.

 

[Hairy Lager]

I find this somewhat surprising. Kyron is a bit too heavy, has probably effected his relative endurance and speed.

Is Kyron a friendly Klingon?



Like his Cousin Kamden?

 

[Godfather32]

Freo and Carlton are interested in everyone, they are like that slutty girl from school.

Melanie?

 

[Chris_6678]

Apparently at the Brownlow the players were mucking around with Gaff by singing other club songs to wind him up. So maybe he isn't leaving at all and not sure they would joke about it that openly if he was leaving.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Will be disappointed if he refuses to sign an extension and still decides to go home through FA next year. If we match the offer and the interested clubs refuse to trade, we'll be stuck with a player that doesn't even want to be here, so I can see us agreeing to let him go.

 

[Hairy Lager]

We need to be really thorough in trying to figure out what his intentions are. Encourage him to be honest. Tell him that whatever he tells the club will stay within the inner sanctum of the club and not get leaked to the media and that there will be no blowblack on him in terms of being ostracised by team mates or fans next season if he tells us he plans to leave. And if he does tell us he wants to leave we need to not be in denial about it and refuse to accept it and get on with organising the best deal we can for him.

You're welcome...

 

[squashface]

Agreed sounds like an underwhelming trade period again

Sam Mitchell for pick 88 last year not enough for you?

 

[mattyc75]

Sam Mitchell for pick 88 last year not enough for you?

He was thrown at us and didnt achieve much did it?

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[Miasi]

Sam Mitchell for pick 88 last year not enough for you?

Wow we picked up a 32 year old for a year...


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[Bleedblueandgold]

Sam Mitchell for pick 88 last year not enough for you?

He was always gonna head here to coach anyway, so the Hawks let him for peanuts out of respect a year early, and they at least got a pick back. They probably cleared some salary cap space I'd imagine, so they looked at it as a win-win situation. No idea if Hodge will need to be traded for since he'd already announced his retirement, but I can see a similar thing happening with Brisbane.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Wow we picked up a 32 year old for a year...


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Actually he was 34, turns 35 next week.

 

[squashface]

There's just no pleasing you guys is there

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Wow we picked up a 32 year old for a year...


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Also picked up the bloke that led our ruck all year for pick 71.

 

[WCErevival]

 

[swingdog]

Haven't Seen a lot of Kelly, but doesn't appear to use his left when he should, anyone comment on this just an oversight on his highlight tapes?

If nothing else, I approve of his choice of Bulldogs jumper number.

 

[liam123]

Melanie?

Pretty sure it's always a Jessica