2017 trade/draft thread

[Agent93]

I'm wary of assumptions that you will get a good play in a super draft no matter what. 2001 is always talked up as a super draft but this was the top 20

1. Luke Hodge
2. Luke Ball
3. Chris Judd
4. Graham Polak
5. Xavier Clarke
6. Ashley Sampi
7. David Hale
8. Jimmy Bartel
9. Luke Molan
10. Sam Power
11. Richard Cole
12. Brent Reilly
13. Nick Dal Santo
14. Ashley Watson
15. Barry Brooks
16. Rick Ladson
17. James Kelly
18. Shane Harvey
19. Jason Gram
20. Daniel Elstone

Still amazed the Dorks traded out of the top 3.

 

[free2play]

I'm wary of assumptions that you will get a good play in a super draft no matter what. 2001 is always talked up as a super draft but this was the top 20

1. Luke Hodge
2. Luke Ball
3. Chris Judd
4. Graham Polak
5. Xavier Clarke
6. Ashley Sampi
7. David Hale
8. Jimmy Bartel
9. Luke Molan
10. Sam Power
11. Richard Cole
12. Brent Reilly
13. Nick Dal Santo
14. Ashley Watson
15. Barry Brooks
16. Rick Ladson
17. James Kelly
18. Shane Harvey
19. Jason Gram
20. Daniel Elstone

So based on the above list I personally have the following classifications:
2 Legends - Hodge and Judd are likely as some point to be voted AFL legends
3 Hall of fame players - Bartel, Kelly and Del Santo (although I will accept arguments against Del being here)
2 Above average AFL players - Hale, Gram would qualify here
5-6 Players who forged reasonable AFL careers

So yes in terms of actual hit rates for AFL careers is lowish in that only half really had some sort of AFL career the interesting one is the high number of players who had exceptional careers being hall of fame/legends of the game.

 

[Agent93]

It was the depth of that year that is so well regarded.

Round 4, pick 58...

Geelong built their dynasty from it.

Ahh, the years of cheap 3rd round F/S selections.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

Next year the best draft in a decade apparently (someone posted stats on another thread about it on BF) so trading away next years picks is madness, considering we'll probably still be balls deep in a rebuild...

Classic West Coast though. Winning four of the last five of those dead runners in 2009 cost us a shot at the likes of Martin and Fyfe.


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[MVPD01]

All of the following should no longer be walk up starts and the young guys should take preference.
Jetta, Lecras, Cripps, Shepherd.
Wont happen though and all 4 of those blokes will play round 1.

Shepherd?? Why?


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[ziad]

Shepherd?? Why?


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woodhouse - to make amsted look inside

 

[boondy]

A superdraft is over after the 2nd round anyway

 

[Agent93]

So yes in terms of actual hit rates for AFL careers is lowish

Is it? 70% hit rate of a reasonable AFL career for a top 20 pick seems pretty good, especially with a 40% shot at an above average AFL player.

The top 10 of drafts past have been littered with numerous failures, and it's even harder to dodge the future trams and go home factors on draft day.

 

[6285sutto]

we should look at bundling Wellingham and our 2nd rounder for the GCS or any team willing for a first and 3rd rounder, although i'd be fairly happy to keep wellers as back up depth as well

 

[6285sutto]

Question: Is Wilson worth a 1st round pick ? Should Eagles make a late play for him and throw our first rounder to GWS? From what I've heard/read (notalot) sounds like he's going to gem of a player

 

[truman]

So based on the above list I personally have the following classifications:
2 Legends - Hodge and Judd are likely as some point to be voted AFL legends
3 Hall of fame players - Bartel, Kelly and Del Santo (although I will accept arguments against Del being here)
2 Above average AFL players - Hale, Gram would qualify here
5-6 Players who forged reasonable AFL careers

So yes in terms of actual hit rates for AFL careers is lowish in that only half really had some sort of AFL career the interesting one is the high number of players who had exceptional careers being hall of fame/legends of the game.

Gaj was father son and Swann was like in the 40s. Sam Mitchell and Lake were also drafted that year.

 

[pantskyle]

Question: Is Wilson worth a 1st round pick ? Should Eagles make a late play for him and throw our first rounder to GWS? From what I've heard/read (notalot) sounds like he's going to gem of a player

He is worth a pick in the 20s.

 

[Figure09]

Why hasn't ah chee not been traded yet

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[Dark Sharks]

^ Still just waiting on what's happening with Waterhouse before a deal can be made.

 

[twce13]

Greg Clark was supposed to go #1 and didn't even get drafted a year later

Clem Smith freak show gun, hopefully he slides to our first

 

[Nev57]

If we don't get extra picks probably good for Wellingham and Lamb for another contract ...which is good .

Id be happier with a contract for those 2 instead of hill and masten

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[ronpingwins]

I'm hearing that the Gaff+Pick for Hartung, Birchall and Stratton deal should go through early tomorrow.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Why hasn't ah chee not been traded yet

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What a ramble.

 

[Nev57]

I'm hearing that the Gaff+Pick for Hartung, Birchall and Stratton deal should go through early tomorrow.

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[Monocle]

I'm hearing that the Gaff+Pick for Hartung, Birchall and Stratton deal should go through early tomorrow.

You need to go see a Doctor to get your ear canals cleaned out because all the shit in there is distorting you from hearing properly.

 

[QS]

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[Bleedblueandgold]

Its going to be interesting if Weller doesn't go this year. How awkward is it going to be for him next year.

Imagine if Weller went to GC and stayed there for the entire 2018 season...

 

[bigmikles089]

Assuming that the deal for pick 9 has fallen through, would it be safe to say we're done for the trade period?

 

[MrKK]

Dons and Dogs needed that pick swap with us much more than we did, so I expect we demanded exceptionally favourable terms and they turned it down. Meh, I like the way we played it and that we considered such a risky option in the first place.

 

[amazingjoshy]

Wouldn't be surprised if we are involved in some other pick swapping tomorrow.

As it stands, in: Ah Chee, 13, 32, 50 & 69 (if we use it). Upgrade Watson perhaps

That's 5/6 main list changes. Far cry for the deep cut we were told...