List Mgmt. 2017 Trade & FA Targets Part 2

[Glen Buterol]

Pick 2 & 9 for Kelly & 27.

It looks pretty fair but when you break down the intricacies of the whole deal then Ameet should be charged with theft (pick 27 is our original pick we used for Steele btw).

The end result:

Out: 2016 picks 10 & 68 & 2017 pick 9
In: Long, Battle, Steele & Kelly

Not too shabby.

 

[cooperrules]

agreed. Really thought hickey was gonna be good coming into the year.

Interupted preseason been injured so not sure what he was suppose to do. As soon as billing has a niggle he will be a star give him time. Anyone else who is injured is gonna be shit.

 

[Periphery]

Pick 2 & 9 for Kelly & 27.

It looks pretty fair but when you break down the intricacies of the whole deal then Ameet should be charged with theft (pick 27 is our original pick we used for Steele btw).

The end result:

Out: 2016 picks 10 & 68 & 2017 pick 9
In: Long, Battle, Steele & Kelly

Not too shabby.

I'd still probably prefer our first this year and next while keeping the Hawks pick.

Gives us one guaranteed gun mid and one of the best mids in the draft this year. While it costs us next years first, we need quality players sooner rather than later. Getting a gun kid next year might be harder to get - even if the draft is better - given that we'll likely have a worse draft pick due to natural improvement + Kelly.

 

[Glen Buterol]

I'd still probably prefer our first this year and next while keeping the Hawks pick.

Gives us one guaranteed gun mid and one of the best mids in the draft this year. While it costs us next years first, we need quality players sooner rather than later. Getting a gun kid next year might be harder to get - even if the draft is better - given that we'll likely have a worse draft pick due to natural improvement + Kelly.

As would I but that may not get the deal done.

But the deal would then look like:

Out: 2016 picks 10 & 68, 2017 pick 9 & 2018 first round pick

In: Long, Battle, Steele, Kelly & 2017 pick 2

That's absurd.

 

[TheJackal]

As would I but that may not get the deal done.

But the deal would then look like:

Out: 2016 picks 10 & 68, 2017 pick 9 & 2018 first round pick

In: Long, Battle, Steele, Kelly & 2017 pick 2

That's absurd.

It is absurd but we can't look at the overall 2 years as one trade/swap.

Pick 10, 70odd for Long, Battle and pick 2 is where its at.

There is no reason why we should take our advantage from the one sided Hawks trade and give another club a good deal just because we will still win overall.

 

[Glen Buterol]

It is absurd but we can't look at the overall 2 years as one trade/swap.

Pick 10, 70odd for Long, Battle and pick 2 is where its at.

There is no reason why we should take our advantage from the one sided Hawks trade and give another club a good deal just because we will still win overall.

Definitely not what I was suggesting. Just not sure we get the Kelly deal done without using pick 2. Of course preference is not to.

 

[Periphery]

Definitely not what I was suggesting. Just not sure we get the Kelly deal done without using pick 2. Of course preference is not to.

GWS would want pick two but our two firsts straight up would be in line with what GWS would have expected to get from the Treloar deal (it's unlikely they were expecting pick 8 from the Pies 2016 pick).

If Kelly was contracted then pick 2 would almost certainly be involved, but they lose a lot of leverage given that he's not.

It also will depend on what other picks they have coming in from trades etc. They might prefer a 2018 pick if they are getting a few other high first rounders this year from trading players like Hopper/Kennedy/Smith.

 

[eppo67]

Plea

I know Jack Martin is young...

But if he were at a Victorian club with his rating as a junior he would have the blowtorch firmly up his freckle

Please don't take him l don't want both my Clubs with a soft lazy downhill skier.
Don't do it. Let's trade him to Hawthorn for another first rounder.
They took O'mera they will fall for anything.
Just watch Martin and Hall wet themselves this week when Geary runs straight at them.

 

[Glen Buterol]

GWS would want pick two but our two firsts straight up would be in line with what GWS would have expected to get from the Treloar deal (it's unlikely they were expecting pick 8 from the Pies 2016 pick).

If Kelly was contracted then pick 2 would almost certainly be involved, but they lose a lot of leverage given that he's not.

It also will depend on what other picks they have coming in from trades etc. They might prefer a 2018 pick if they are getting a few other high first rounders this year from trading players like Hopper/Kennedy/Smith.

GWS have shown they only want absolute premium picks in the top few. Self entitlement given he leg up the afl gave them.

A lot will depend on where our pick falls. Currently pick 9 but it could conceivably be pick 11-12. GWS ain't having any of that imo.

Either way, the deal likely gets done on the final day of trade period...

 

[crasha301]

GWS have shown they only want absolute premium picks in the top few. Self entitlement given he leg up the afl gave them.

A lot will depend on where our pick falls. Currently pick 9 but it could conceivably be pick 11-12. GWS ain't having any of that imo.

Either way, the deal likely gets done on the final day of trade period...

If thats the case its pick 2 straight swap, yes kelly was a pick 2 but it's not like he is ablett jnr or judd....yet.

To draw even after losing so many players for peanuts would be a win for them imo.

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[crasha301]

Wouldn't surprise me if gws asked for steven and to a lesser extent armo.

With stevie j retiring and and smith probably leaving they'll want a good HFF that can rotate threw the mid.

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[Dard Ball Get]

Wouldn't surprise me if gws asked for steven and to a lesser extent armo.

With stevie j retiring and and smith probably leaving they'll want a good HFF that can rotate threw the mid.

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No way we give up Stuv, no way do they want Armo

 

[Periphery]

GWS have shown they only want absolute premium picks in the top few. Self entitlement given he leg up the afl gave them.

A lot will depend on where our pick falls. Currently pick 9 but it could conceivably be pick 11-12. GWS ain't having any of that imo.

Either way, the deal likely gets done on the final day of trade period...

There's nothing stopping them from trading those picks for a premium pick if they want one so bad. Or alternatively it just gives us more leverage if we do consider giving up pick 2.

 

[StCicatriz]

Gws will want a small fwd to replace smith. We don't really have good one we'd be prepared to give up.

I think theyre chasing motlop

 

[crasha301]

No way we give up Stuv, no way do they want Armo

All im saying is they would ask, also armo wouldn't be a straight swap obviously but he'd be handy HFF for any team in the league.

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[Linton St]

Helps when your team keep the opposition to only 44 inside 50s. I'd also love to see the stats on how many times the ball was kicked to Tom Lynch as the main I50 target as GC went at a season low 66% disposal efficiency so GC probably helped out Carlton & Jones a lot by kicking it over his head or to his feet

They were sloppy with their disposal, but Jones one on one rarely got beaten. First Patton, now Lynch are 2 impressive scalps 2 weeks running.

 

[aussierulesrules]

I see Richmond told Dusty Martin and his manager they want to know in 2 weeks what his plan's are .

Excellent.

 

[eppo67]

They were sloppy with their disposal, but Jones one on one rarely got beaten. First Patton, now Lynch are 2 impressive scalps 2 weeks running.

Our (Suns) forward 50 delivery is the worst in the competition by miles. My sons U/11 team have better forward delivery methods.

 

[Diehard Saint]

It is absurd but we can't look at the overall 2 years as one trade/swap.

Pick 10, 70odd for Long, Battle and pick 2 is where its at.

There is no reason why we should take our advantage from the one sided Hawks trade and give another club a good deal just because we will still win overall.

Also, because GWS don't have a first round pick this season due to the Whitfield affair, they will possibly be more desperate to get any high pick in the first round, which gives us a little more bargaining power. I say hold firm on the Hawks pick if at all possible and give them our first picks this year and next. ( in an ideal world )

 

[StCicatriz]

Forget this draft. Try and get early picks in next year's. I'd trade out pick 2 and our next for a high end pick next year.

The thought of getting hill WOW

 

[Glen Buterol]

Forget this draft. Try and get early picks in next year's. I'd trade out pick 2 and our next for a high end pick next year.

The thought of getting hill WOW

Pick 2 & 9 for say Brisbane's 2018 first round pick? That's far too much of a risk. Better off trading this years picks for established talent (Kelly).

 

[StCicatriz]

Pick 2 & 9 for say Brisbane's 2018 first round pick? That's far too much of a risk. Better off trading this years picks for established talent (Kelly).

I think you're right. Youd trade pick 2 in this draft for kelly without thinking. The posters claiming it is too much clearly haven't seen this draft. It's seriously meh. Other than that I think you're right try and get into next year's at the expense of this year.

 

[Glen Buterol]

I think you're right. Youd trade pick 2 in this draft for kelly without thinking. The posters claiming it is too much clearly haven't seen this draft. It's seriously meh. Other than that I think you're right try and get into next year's at the expense of this year.

Mate I agree. Pick 9-10 next year may very well get a better player than 2-3 this year. It's a risk but certainly a possibility.

 

[StCicatriz]

As much as hawthorn ****ed up and over paid on JOM I can see why they were prepared to part with a future first. Especially with the forecast everyone had. Pick 10 in this is looking like pick 25 last year

 

[Glen Buterol]

As much as hawthorn ****** up and over paid on JOM I can see why they were prepared to part with a future first. Especially with the forecast everyone had. Pick 10 in this is looking like pick 25 last year

Could've had Simpkin who looks like being a gun....but he's no Jack Higgins who may even slide to our own pick given he's 178cm ish.