2018 Rucks

[RobZombie]

That's ok, Wilbur forgot himself.

It wasn't just a down year though, a key factor is always the supercoach scoring system.
Many of these Rucks played and scored under different scoring systems, after the change a few years ago
the elite scoring rucks are either HOTA masters or around the ground specialists i.e Nank/Grundy/Martin.

Goldy was always going to drop off because of the retirements at North i thought, it matters who a ruck
is tapping it to, he might bounce back a bit form wise but i have trouble seeing 110 type numbers with North's current outfit.

The retirements at North weren’t really great clearance players though. Dal was ok, but Boomer hadn’t done much clearance work for years.

IMHO North's clearance differential went down the crapper as a result of Goldy's hitouts dropping (44pg in 2015, 30pg in 2017) and not a drop in midfield quality. He’s still hitting down to a bona fide clearance pig in Cunnington, Ziebell's pretty good and even though he couldn’t do anything else, Swallow still got 5 a game this year.

If you look at Goldy's 2017 vs his 2015 on footywire, the thing that stands out apart from the hitouts is meters gained. Bad Goldy is about half Good Goldy’s metreage. It’s been suggested that a foot/ankle problem robbed him of a lot of his athleticism when he fell away, and that would be consistent with a drop in both hitouts and around the ground impact. It’s also been suggested that they’ve got to the bottom of the foot problem and he’s having a good preseason.

Again IMHO, the real reason not to pick him this year is Preuss. Watchlist I guess, and could be a good option if Gawn or NN goes down.

 

[samFFC]

Sean Darcy will be interesting. Clearly underpriced for a #1 ruckman that can score 95+ regularly, but not clear how often Sandilands will play/not be injured.

 

[blitzer]

The retirements at North weren’t really great clearance players though. Dal was ok, but Boomer hadn’t done much clearance work for years.

IMHO North's clearance differential went down the crapper as a result of Goldy's hitouts dropping (44pg in 2015, 30pg in 2017) and not a drop in midfield quality. He’s still hitting down to a bona fide clearance pig in Cunnington, Ziebell's pretty good and even though he couldn’t do anything else, Swallow still got 5 a game this year.

If you look at Goldy's 2017 vs his 2015 on footywire, the thing that stands out apart from the hitouts is meters gained. Bad Goldy is about half Good Goldy’s metreage. It’s been suggested that a foot/ankle problem robbed him of a lot of his athleticism when he fell away, and that would be consistent with a drop in both hitouts and around the ground impact. It’s also been suggested that they’ve got to the bottom of the foot problem and he’s having a good preseason.

Again IMHO, the real reason not to pick him this year is Preuss. Watchlist I guess, and could be a good option if Gawn or NN goes down.

Preuss is what rules Goldstein out for me.

 

[markm106]

Preuss is what rules Goldstein out for me.

Agree. I can’t see north not giving Preuss regular games.

 

[Keg on legs]

Currently running with Ryder and Maxxxy

No idea what I will do in round 10. Hopefully a cheap cover option will have popped his head up by then. Otherwise I might be donut city. Having said that, if I can't find ruck cover I will be copping a ruck donut for maxxxy too

Avoiding Nic Nat coming back from an ACL unless his pre season form screams "pick me"

 

[Sydney Kicker]

Lobb averaged 11 Hit outs and 0.8 goals per game last year. Now 11 hit outs per game isn't many but surely enough to get ruck as a position. Especially if 0.8 goals per game gets you forward as a position. Gee it's tough this year for a viable ruck strategy that's not primarily based on luck.

 

[Glorin]

Lobb averaged 11 Hit outs and 0.8 goals per game last year. Now 11 hit outs per game isn't many but surely enough to get ruck as a position. Especially if 0.8 goals per game gets you forward as a position. Gee it's tough this year for a viable ruck strategy that's not primarily based on luck.

I wonder if there is any way we can petition to get this changed. As is says on the picker now that they may still make some changes to prices, why not positions?

 

[saintbatty]

I wonder if there is any way we can petition to get this changed. As is says on the picker now that they may still make some changes to prices, why not positions?

I recall that last year, a rookie's position was changed that was genuinely mis-categorised. If enough people complain, who knows - sweet R/F gold?

 

[Chism]

Show me where to sign!

#Lobb4ruck

 

[NT.Thunder]

Or we could just leave it as is. Every year the game get's easier with the amount of information out there and changes. I'd rather they get rid of the rolling lock out each week, back to the good old days where come Friday just after 7pm, set and forget!

 

[saintbatty]

Or we could just leave it as is. Every year the game get's easier with the amount of information out there and changes. I'd rather they get rid of the rolling lock out each week, back to the good old days where come Friday just after 7pm, set and forget!

There's that 'other' fantasy competition if that's what you want.

 

[NT.Thunder]

There's that 'other' fantasy competition if that's what you want.

Maybe Lobbe is a R/F there, might be just what you're looking for

 

[TheBeardAmigos]

Maybe Lobbe is a R/F there, might be just what you're looking for

not sure why you would want to pick Matthew Lobbe....

not the best option IMO

 

[NT.Thunder]

not sure why you would want to pick Matthew Lobbe....

not the best option IMO

90% of the board had him pencilled into their teams a few years ago but yeah, my bad

 

[Flandersss]

90% of the board had him pencilled into their teams a few years ago but yeah, my bad

Because Ryder was suspended. He’s at Carlton with Kreuzer now.

 

[NT.Thunder]

Because Ryder was suspended. He’s at Carlton with Kreuzer now.

Amaze balls he's still on any list but Kruezer could go down at any stage. If he pulls out another season like last year there could be a lot of points being left behind. I'm still not sold on NN, hard to see him playing out the season and scores returning to where they were before the injury. Gawn also with one premium scoring season and a single season injury free.......The year I didn't take of-course!

 

[samFFC]

Wouldn't be such a bad thing to have Lobb up FWD. Gawn/Nic Nat in ruck to gain value as they are under-priced, then we have the choice to use Lobb R/F once DPP comes in ~round 6, and trade up Gawn/Nic Nat if not top 2 (but will have gained value by then).

 

[TheBeardAmigos]

Wouldn't be such a bad thing to have Lobb up FWD. Gawn/Nic Nat in ruck to gain value as they are under-priced, then we have the choice to use Lobb R/F once DPP comes in ~round 6, and trade up Gawn/Nic Nat if not top 2 (but will have gained value by then).

it doesnt work that way in SuperCoach.

once the positions are set, they stay set for the whole season.

if you want mid season position changes, then go and play "Dream Team"

 

[Here2tellyouwhy]

it doesnt work that way in SuperCoach.

once the positions are set, they stay set for the whole season.

if you want mid season position changes, then go and play "Dream Team"

If you want to win finals then go and support West Coast

 

[Flandersss]

If you want to win finals then go and support West Coast

 

[samFFC]

it doesnt work that way in SuperCoach.

once the positions are set, they stay set for the whole season.

if you want mid season position changes, then go and play "Dream Team"

Oops I thought this was AFL fantasy board.
My bad!

 

[markm106]

Anyone considering Longer. 3 tons from last 4 games. 3 scores under 50 a worry however may have been when 2 rucks were playing. One to watch in JLT. Could be a POD.

 

[Hai_Newman]

 

[Keg on legs]

Anyone considering Longer. 3 tons from last 4 games. 3 scores under 50 a worry however may have been when 2 rucks were playing. One to watch in JLT. Could be a POD.

He is a big JLT watch mate. He doesn't get a lot of the pill but if he can increase his numbers by 20% he would be a great pick.

FWIW I reckon he will be an elite ruckman in the league. Just not sure if it will be this year. He is a very good tap ruckman but needs to do more around the ground

 

[Riviat]

There's that 'other' fantasy competition if that's what you want.

There is no 'other' fantasy comp.....