List Mgmt. 2019 Draft Thread

[sammm]

Biggy Biggy G will be a Saint. Latest whisper getting about. He is ours if we want him due to NGA.

Yes, we all know that

 

[ScrappyDo]

Biggy does not appear in the list of draft prospects on the AFL site.
Has George heard a whisper at the club about this cat B rookie bizzo?
Me thinks maybe yes...

 

[Saint_Dos]

Biggy does not appear in the list of draft prospects on the AFL site.
Has George heard a whisper at the club about this cat B rookie bizzo?
Me thinks maybe yes...

that would be a big win

 

[ScrappyDo]

For a lazy board Saturday afternoon.

Out: p51, F1st, F4th Sydney, F4th Port

In: p38, p39, p41, F1st. all Richmond

Rates our future 1st at 6, which is pushing it a little but still plausible.
GWS have p40 which would slip with a bit on Green

Saints scoop up the 3 best sliders at end of the second round with 38, 39, 40, for the price of a future 1st swap and chump change.
The Tigs get a probable top 10 future pick.

I'd do that trade.
Not so sure about the Tigers though....

 

[bird_man]

See who slides, then draft Masten.

Pass on the rest of the picks for supplemental spots that we can fill in the preseason.

Yuck

 

[borderbarry]

Just over a week to the draft and it is hardly being mentioned on here. Shows you what a week hand of draft does.

 

[Sab22]

We drafted MKing and Bytel

Just over a week to the draft and it is hardly being mentioned on here. Shows you what a week hand of draft does.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Just over a week to the draft and it is hardly being mentioned on here. Shows you what a week hand of draft does.

I don't mind talking about long shot picks that may be there for us.
Not so interested in discussing how someone is going to be falling over themselves to trade overs for our next years draft pick ( which we would need special permission to trade I think ).

 

[borderbarry]

If we traded out our next years first round, we would be in the same position as we are this year.

 

[CursingFijian]

Has Voss nominated us?

 

[Keg on legs]

If we traded out our next years first round, we would be in the same position as we are this year.

The only reason it might be worthwhile is this year is full of mids which we need and next year's is as compromised as all get out.

There will be people who could judge the value of a 10-15 pick this year vs a top 10 next year better than I could, but that could be the thinking



Clearly we would need AFL tick off in any case but I reckon we would get it wothout too much issue

 

[Lenny2020]

Is that not Biggy and Voss to the left?

 

[ScrappyDo]

For all the various permutations available, l just can't see any that would make it worth while. The value just isn't there.

FWIW, next year's draft was said to likely increase the value of early picks, and IMO late picks for the same reason.
It just seems like the right year to have a top10 pick and 2x 4ths.

There's also Coff, Bytel and Clav to work onto the best 22 yet along with our 5 recruits, so do we really want another high priority kid this year without the capacity to blood him properly??

 

[cooperg]

Pretty sure one is Angus Schumacher.

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Is that not Biggy and Voss to the left?

 

[prophetic1]

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Is that not Biggy and Voss to the left?

dunno but i think there's GRESH tryin to pick a winner...lol caught in the act unless my eyes deceive me

 

[Ads734]

Thinking we will pick up

1. Biggy,
2. A mid of some sort/slider/Mature age player like Partington/Hibberd as it worked well last year
(wouldn;t mind looking at Ryan Byrnes if he's still there/Casser. Chirgwin
3. Another ruck preferably a mature one

 

[Stewart66]

For a lazy board Saturday afternoon.

Out: p51, F1st, F4th Sydney, F4th Port

In: p38, p39, p41, F1st. all Richmond

Rates our future 1st at 6, which is pushing it a little but still plausible.
GWS have p40 which would slip with a bit on Green

Saints scoop up the 3 best sliders at end of the second round with 38, 39, 40, for the price of a future 1st swap and chump change.
The Tigs get a probable top 10 future pick.

I'd do that trade.
Not so sure about the Tigers though....

I think we might need 1st rounder for Giants ....next year now .

 

[ScrappyDo]

I think we might need 1st rounder for Giants ....next year now .

There's a couple that would be handy..
Would you thing we'd be after a more senior player or a younger one?
In reality l suppose we have 2 firsts available, so perhaps both??

 

[Gosaints12]

Thinking we will pick up

1. Biggy,
2. A mid of some sort/slider/Mature age player like Partington/Hibberd as it worked well last year
(wouldn;t mind looking at Ryan Byrnes if he's still there/Casser. Chirgwin
3. Another ruck preferably a mature one

What if we moved up the order? Do we really need a first round next year. 17/ the best 40 are tied to other clubs. We could give our future 1st to Brisbane for picks 21, 29 and 34.

Brisbane receive Saints future 1st - Saints recieve pick 21, 29, and 34.

Assuming Saints get pick 5 again this trade would give the Saints a win points wise by 195, but clearly the Lions the won the trade from a logical sense.

Saints then move up the order with the Tigers

Saints get - Pick 19, pick 39, pick 41
Tigers get- pick 21, 29, 34, 51.

Tigers won the trade just on Point values and probably win all up.

Saints select
19: Trent Bianco
39: Callum Jamison
41: Riley Garcia
82:Biggy

Boom def winners of the off season.

 

[Ads734]

What if we moved up the order? Do we really need a first round next year. 17/ the best 40 are tied to other clubs. We could give our future 1st to Brisbane for picks 21, 29 and 34.

Brisbane receive Saints future 1st - Saints recieve pick 21, 29, and 34.

Assuming Saints get pick 5 again this trade would give the Saints a win points wise by 195, but clearly the Lions the won the trade from a logical sense.

Saints then move up the order with the Tigers

Saints get - Pick 19, pick 39, pick 41
Tigers get- pick 21, 29, 34, 51.

Tigers won the trade just on Point values and probably win all up.

Saints select
19: Trent Bianco
39: Callum Jamison
41: Riley Garcia
82:Biggy

Boom def winners of the off season.

It would defintly put us in an interesting predicimant as most have said it does seem that the split of this draft is something like

top 2

then theres about 10-12 guys in a group together
and then it really opens up like the xt 30/40 could all be ranked very differently. in fact I was listening to one of the draft podcasts and one of the recruiters said that mpst clubs had been looking at a bigger pool of players like 50-60 as oppose to 30-40. So it seems if we can get some picks in the 20-30 itll be good but even if we don;t 51 may still get us a slider.

 

[pebblesofsand]

It would defintly put us in an interesting predicimant as most have said it does seem that the split of this draft is something like

top 2

then theres about 10-12 guys in a group together
and then it really opens up like the xt 30/40 could all be ranked very differently. in fact I was listening to one of the draft podcasts and one of the recruiters said that mpst clubs had been looking at a bigger pool of players like 50-60 as oppose to 30-40. So it seems if we can get some picks in the 20-30 itll be good but even if we don;t 51 may still get us a slider.

May not even need to be a slider.

Draft Central reviews for midfielders they think might be available after Pick 51.

#60 Lachlan Stapleton
Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro | Balanced Midfielder
14/04/2001 | 179cm | 73kg

The only State Draft Combine player in our Power Rankings, the Eastern Ranges ball magnet has been one of the more consistent players this year. One of the few unlucky not to get a National Draft Combine invite, Stapleton has plenty of tricks despite his size, and can win the ball inside or out. In season 2019, Stapleton averaged 22.3 disposals, 2.5 marks, 5.2 clearances, 4.5 inside 50s and 7.1 tackles from 13 games, predominantly playing an inside role. His hands in close were very good, with athletic traits that are handy but could still improve such as his in-game acceleration – clocking a sub-three second 20m sprint at the State Combine, and his kicking consistency. A rough chance still, but should have done enough to find a place on an AFL list.

#59 Ryan Byrnes
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro | Balanced Midfielder
03/05/2001 | 182cm | 84kg

Mr Consistent, Sandringham’s fearless captain has been as reliable as just about anyone in the NAB League this season. Byrnes can play inside or out, wins the ball out of a stoppage and has a trademark five-step burst to create separation from his opponent and send the ball inside 50 to leading teammates. His kicking could certainly sharpen up, but he can use either foot which makes him more of an asset, and while he is shorter compared to some inside midfielders, he has the readymade frame to compete at senior level. Almost missed out on a bottom-age year at Sandringham and has been a workhorse to put himself in a position where he could be drafted. Just a no-fuss footballer who leads by actions and will be a popular player at a club should he be selected.

#56 Josh Shute
Sturt/South Australia | Outside Midfielder
28/03/2001 | 187cm | 74kg

A lightly built, but talented outside midfielder with some good size, Shute is the stereotypical winger who likes to run and create from the back half going forward. Shute has nice foot skills with a touch of class, as well as a high work rate that sees him push up and down the ground. His endurance could still improve, as could his impact per possession, and while standing at 73kg, Shute could add size to his frame. Overall though, Shute has a nice outside game from which clubs can work with, and is one of the more prominent wingers available in the AFL Draft crop. He could go higher than this based on his ball use and outside run, but is still a developing talent.

#55 Flynn Perez
Bendigo Pioneers/Vic Country | Outside Midfielder
25/08/2001 | 188cm | 81kg

One of the players hardest to rate this year, Perez has missed his entire top-age season after injuring his knee late last year at a Vic Country camp. From what he showed as a bottom-ager, Perez has some neat outside traits, and class when in close. He moves well and is a creator for his team, it is just about getting some consistency in both his disposal and game. At 188cm, Perez is a nice height for a midfielder, and when adding in his athleticism, the Bendigo Pioneers’ midfielder is unlikely to be forgotten by an AFL club come November.

#53 Josh Honey
Western Jets/Vic Metro | Mid/Forward
17/10/2001 | 185cm | 82kg

Another player with great upside, Honey has the versatility to rotate between midfield and forward, and is an athlete to-boot. Honey was one of the more impressive performers at the National Draft Combine, clocking up times of 2.97 seconds (20m sprint) and 8.10 seconds (agility test). His consistency can be a worry at times, particularly when it comes to influence throughout long periods in games, with his accumulation lower than most other comparable players – 16.1 disposals per game. But when on his game, Honey has that hurt factor about him, with his clean hands and defensive pressure – 4.6 tackles per game – a feature, as well as his ability to hit the scoreboard regularly, contributing 12 goals in 14 games at NAB League level, and two from two at the Under-18 National Championships.

 

[Gosaints12]

May not even need to be a slider.

Draft Central reviews for midfielders they think might be available after Pick 51.

#60 Lachlan Stapleton
Eastern Ranges/Vic Metro | Balanced Midfielder
14/04/2001 | 179cm | 73kg

The only State Draft Combine player in our Power Rankings, the Eastern Ranges ball magnet has been one of the more consistent players this year. One of the few unlucky not to get a National Draft Combine invite, Stapleton has plenty of tricks despite his size, and can win the ball inside or out. In season 2019, Stapleton averaged 22.3 disposals, 2.5 marks, 5.2 clearances, 4.5 inside 50s and 7.1 tackles from 13 games, predominantly playing an inside role. His hands in close were very good, with athletic traits that are handy but could still improve such as his in-game acceleration – clocking a sub-three second 20m sprint at the State Combine, and his kicking consistency. A rough chance still, but should have done enough to find a place on an AFL list.

#59 Ryan Byrnes
Sandringham Dragons/Vic Metro | Balanced Midfielder
03/05/2001 | 182cm | 84kg

Mr Consistent, Sandringham’s fearless captain has been as reliable as just about anyone in the NAB League this season. Byrnes can play inside or out, wins the ball out of a stoppage and has a trademark five-step burst to create separation from his opponent and send the ball inside 50 to leading teammates. His kicking could certainly sharpen up, but he can use either foot which makes him more of an asset, and while he is shorter compared to some inside midfielders, he has the readymade frame to compete at senior level. Almost missed out on a bottom-age year at Sandringham and has been a workhorse to put himself in a position where he could be drafted. Just a no-fuss footballer who leads by actions and will be a popular player at a club should he be selected.

#56 Josh Shute
Sturt/South Australia | Outside Midfielder
28/03/2001 | 187cm | 74kg

A lightly built, but talented outside midfielder with some good size, Shute is the stereotypical winger who likes to run and create from the back half going forward. Shute has nice foot skills with a touch of class, as well as a high work rate that sees him push up and down the ground. His endurance could still improve, as could his impact per possession, and while standing at 73kg, Shute could add size to his frame. Overall though, Shute has a nice outside game from which clubs can work with, and is one of the more prominent wingers available in the AFL Draft crop. He could go higher than this based on his ball use and outside run, but is still a developing talent.

#55 Flynn Perez
Bendigo Pioneers/Vic Country | Outside Midfielder
25/08/2001 | 188cm | 81kg

One of the players hardest to rate this year, Perez has missed his entire top-age season after injuring his knee late last year at a Vic Country camp. From what he showed as a bottom-ager, Perez has some neat outside traits, and class when in close. He moves well and is a creator for his team, it is just about getting some consistency in both his disposal and game. At 188cm, Perez is a nice height for a midfielder, and when adding in his athleticism, the Bendigo Pioneers’ midfielder is unlikely to be forgotten by an AFL club come November.

#53 Josh Honey
Western Jets/Vic Metro | Mid/Forward
17/10/2001 | 185cm | 82kg

Another player with great upside, Honey has the versatility to rotate between midfield and forward, and is an athlete to-boot. Honey was one of the more impressive performers at the National Draft Combine, clocking up times of 2.97 seconds (20m sprint) and 8.10 seconds (agility test). His consistency can be a worry at times, particularly when it comes to influence throughout long periods in games, with his accumulation lower than most other comparable players – 16.1 disposals per game. But when on his game, Honey has that hurt factor about him, with his clean hands and defensive pressure – 4.6 tackles per game – a feature, as well as his ability to hit the scoreboard regularly, contributing 12 goals in 14 games at NAB League level, and two from two at the Under-18 National Championships.

I like Honey, Stampelton, Bynes, and Perez.

 

[Stewart66]

There's a couple that would be handy..
Would you thing we'd be after a more senior player or a younger one?
In reality l suppose we have 2 firsts available, so perhaps both??

Hope we do nothing more than take existing picks to draft this year and pick someone mid season to
represent need if long term injuries occur.

Further Realignment of list next year with Brown , Geary gone at the older end ,more in the 23 -24 age group.
coming in is the wish , just me dream result would be Caldwell & Briggs .

 

[The Jack]

Biggy was on SEN this morning. 196cm but hasn't grown in the last 12 months. Came to Australia at the age of 2. His Mum has bought up 8 kids by herself. Loves rap music and was given his nickname at Kindergarten. Wants to play the Aliir Aliir role as a key running backman. Has talked to 5 other clubs since the combine. Didn't sound like he is a certainty to get to the Saints. Very impressive young man.

 

[Gosaints12]

Biggy was on SEN this morning. 196cm but hasn't grown in the last 12 months. Came to Australia at the age of 2. His Mum has bought up 8 kids by herself. Loves rap music and was given his nickname at Kindergarten. Wants to play the Aliir Aliir role as a key running backman. Has talked to 5 other clubs since the combine. Didn't sound like he is a certainty to get to the Saints. Very impressive young man.

Still think we match.