Analysis 2019 List Management Discussion II

[Faz 2000]

Even if not a superstar, a ruckman has to bring SOMETHING. Whether it's contested marking (McEvoy), clearance work (Marshall), great tap work (Goldstein) or physical presence (Mumford).

If Pittonet as a backup can bring some hard-hitting grunt work, that sounds OK to me.

 

[bigm386]

Even if not a superstar, a ruckman has to bring SOMETHING. Whether it's contested marking (McEvoy), clearance work (Marshall), great tap work (Goldstein) or physical presence (Mumford).

If Pittonet as a backup can bring some hard-hitting grunt work, that sounds OK to me.

Personally watching Phillips in the AFL and VFL I am more than happy to try someone else, because expecting anything more of Phillips at this point is insanity.

To me he just never covered the ground and against the premier ruckman that isn't an option.

 

[AlecDuncan]

Do Hawthorn still owe us a favour from a past trade week, or did we already collect on it?

It might grease the wheels on the Pittonet deal.

 

[AlecDuncan]

Personally watching Phillips in the AFL and VFL I am more than happy to try someone else, because expecting anything more of Phillips at this point is insanity.

Watching Philips and Lobbe get smashed by Werribee's ruckman was enough for me.

 

[FRUMPY]

Do Hawthorn still owe us a favour from a past trade week, or did we already collect on it?

It might grease the wheels on the Pittonet deal.

If we are owed a favour id wait for a better player than backup ruckman to get the favour (like trade of late picks to get us an O'Meara type)

 

[Macca43]

Don't expect any trades until after 3pm, AFL have banned clubs from lodging anything before then.

 

[Moody Blue]

If we are owed a favour id wait for a better player than backup ruckman to get the favour (like trade of late picks to get us an O'Meara type)

I think that favor went out the door when we sacked BB.

 

[bigdog43]

Paddy Dow is only turning 20 years old today? Can't believe we're panicking at all, can't believe he's still so young

 

[Stamos]

Paddy Dow is only turning 20 years old today? Can't believe we're panicking at all, can't believe he's still so young

He's going to be a ****ing gun

 

[Thrawn]

He's going to be a ******* gun

Play him in the back line. I want to hear more Dow Jones puns.

 

[Keyza]

If we are owed a favour id wait for a better player than backup ruckman to get the favour (like trade of late picks to get us an O'Meara type)

The Age are reporting the deal has been done, for a late pick.

 

[true blue19]

Here is my last day of the trade period guess

Pittonet for pick 72

Phillips for pick 65

Martin and a 2020 2nd GC for our 2020 1st

Papley and pick 44 for pick 9

My left field trade Bonar and Flynn for our 2020 2nd (there is question marks on Pittonet and with Flynn we give us another option plus we lose Phillips and Lobbe and now add 2 younger rucks)

Leave us with picks 43, 44, 48 & 65

 

[BeligerentBlue]

Phillips to * for an improvement in pick 61 to 57.

And swap our pick 72 to 70.

Meh

 

[Blugazi]

Wouldn’t be surprised to see SOS split 9 into two of Geelong or Brisbane’s pick, if Swans don’t get a wriggle on.

 

[Mister Carlton]

SOS sleeping.

 

[outabounds]

Pathetic

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[RAPPA]

With this trade effort, we should’ve given daisy another year

 

[Pafloyul]

We were way too single-minded; when it became obvious that the trades weren't going to happen, we should have changed tack. If it basically wasn't in motion the night before, it wasn't going to happen, that's been the pattern. Having said that, I'm happy to go to the draft and to have the first three rounds of next year's picks intact. I'd try to trade pick 9 for multiples.

 

[JohnnyFontane90]

SOS has done great work with our list up to this point. But there's a pretty big body of evidence now to suggest he simply doesn't recognize the importance of small forwards in this era and that's just unacceptable.

We started the trade period with no small forwards and we ended up with 33yo betts and that's only because teague had to force it. Maybe papely was too hard to get done and didn't want to pay overs, fair enough. What about butler?

Can't wait for another season of dow and fisher wasting away as makeshift small forwards...

 

[gbatman]

Surely we can draft someone good with pick 9.

If we walk away with a young gun small forward, Betts and Martin then that is somewhat of a small win.

Get Papley next year. Reckon he will be disappointed and pissed with Sydney.

Full set of picks next year. We have to go well and have a strong season and attract players to us.

There weren't a lot of good small forwards available and we went after one who was contracted and one where the club didn't care about losing him for nothing.

I would think we have a huge amount of cap space. Martin just has to put that massive price on himself and we get him via the PSD I would assume. That game is well and truly not over yet.

Swans also not chasing Daniher seriously. A fair bit of WTF towards them. They were trying to get a contracted key forward from Essendon and wouldn't offer pick 5.

I don't think we can blame us here, some unbelievable stuff has gone on here blocking our trades.

 

[AlecDuncan]

Can't blame SOS for the Papley deal not happening. It was only ever a chance if Daniher went north, and we all know what * are like to deal with.

Martin in the PSD is a lot better than 2020:1 + 2020:2. Happy with that.

 

[GenYBlue]

Gold Coast wanted too much.

Don't think we quite offered enough.

Hopefully Martin makes it to our club one way or another.

The whole Daniher/Papley situation is a farce.
Our hands were tied.

Edit: Wow Sydney List Manager says Essendon knocked back 5 & 9 for Daniher!
What are you doing *?!

 

[BuxbaumBixby]

We were way too single-minded; when it became obvious that the trades weren't going to happen, we should have changed tack. If it basically wasn't in motion the night before, it wasn't going to happen, that's been the pattern. Having said that, I'm happy to go to the draft and to have the first three rounds of next year's picks intact. I'd try to trade pick 9 for multiples.

I think this is fair criticism. We may have been too focused and/or over-confident of making the Papley deal happen. So hard to understand the dynamics without inside knowledge - but you wonder if we could've set a deadline of midday monday for the deals and once that passed chased other options.

The relationships with Papley and Martin would've been built over months.

I wonder how much "Welcome to Carlton Jack and Tom" propaganda is currently being shredded.

Butler for a late pick would've been handy. Bonar a steal for a future 4th.

Deluca probably just got himself another year.

 

[Eiffel 65]

Was surprised we didn't go after Bonar with pick #43.

Must have our eye on someone around that point in the draft.

 

[Infamy]

Gold Coast wanted too much.

Don't think we quite offered enough.

Craig Cameron said that they requested Pick 9 for Martin & 15
Based on points value that was the equivalent to Pick 45
Once the Daniher & Papley deal fell through then that should have still gone through