Teams 2019 Rate My Team (RMT) pre-JLT edition

[bol316]

Be wary of Fyfe, just an FYI. No Neale and basically only Mundy and Brad Hill left as established mids, means that tag is coming for him every week. He scored pretty poorly last year when tagged, so that's what's keeping me away from him. At least Neale provided a bit of a buffer. He won't have that anymore. Can definitely score well on his day, but wouldn't see him as a top 8 mid or a consistent performer.

Definitely possible. I just wonder if Fyfe struggled to score last year (when tagged) because they COULD go away from him to Neale. That option isn't there now and everything will go through him. I am going to guess on him for now, and see how it goes in preseason. I have a few guys like that. I don't sweat or get nervous until actual lockdown

 

[The Joker]

Thoughts?

Mills? Billings???

Im set up ready for the Thursday Night fixture and that's why Kreuzer, Setterfield and Walsh are on the bench.

 

[Shadow89]

Thoughts?

Mills? Billings???

Im set up ready for the Thursday Night fixture and that's why Kreuzer, Setterfield and Walsh are on the bench.

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Wow that's a lot of cash you have on the bench! Over 750K! Makes your backline a bit weak, but I get the strategy. Kreuzer has a good day, you keep his score. Has a bad day you have a crack with Westy, etc. etc. First time I've seen it done this year, so kudos!

Not so sure about Viney though, in any sense. Could be a good choice, but with his injury woes the last season or two, I'd probs be saving 80K and just going down to Brouch (who is about the same risk). Either that or saving 180K and going to Miles. Definitely the most interesting team I've seen thus far though

 

[Shadow89]

Mid-priced MAAAADDNESS!

 

[Ah12]

Mid-priced MAAAADDNESS!

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I dont mind it, id maybe downgrade hanley to a rookie. Would allow you to upgrade english who im not sure has the #1 ruck spot secured yet. Or even one of your mids if he does. Could definitely do well but i think youll struggle to find constitency.

 

[Ah12]

Need some opinions on this. Tried a different strategy going for mids i think are underpriced + acouple mid pricer in mills & worpel i think can breakout.

 

[guero]

english who im not sure has the #1 ruck spot secured yet...

Who’s English competing with, though? I see 2 specialist rucks on the Dogs list (I’m no expert, so happy to be corrected) and the other is rookie-listed Jordon Sweet. New rules could see teams playing more ruckmen than last season, so English should be a lock for the Dogs.

He went at 109. Close but not quite and thats from 17 games. I just really dont see him breaking into that upper echelon of uber premiums (macrae & kelly etc.)

I get what you’re saying, but who would have predicted Macrae going from a max average of 104 (3 times in a season) to 123?

 

[bol316]

Need some opinions on this. Tried a different strategy going for mids i think are underpriced + acouple mid pricer in mills & worpel i think can breakout.

I still say Laird is full price. I would get one of the other top defenders there and bank the rest. I was on Adams early but I agree with many others who just have to wonder how much Beams muddies up their midfield. I would maybe steer clear, but i wouldn't insist on it. I am still not a fan of having Macrae AND Grundy. One or the other as a captain, all good. Maybe, for your build, keep Macrae and turn Grundy into another reliable ruck. Then take that cash and bank it with the Laird leftovers. Maybe there you can wiggle yourself into another value premium. Love the Redden pick. I have been on him for quite some time, if you hadn't noticed. He came home in those last 17 games (and the Finals) BLAZING hot. Overall not bad at all and some interesting guess picks in there

 

[Ah12]

Who’s English competing with, though? I see 2 specialist rucks on the Dogs list (I’m no expert, so happy to be corrected) and the other is rookie-listed Jordon Sweet. New rules could see teams playing more ruckmen than last season, so English should be a lock for the Dogs.

With the 2 rucks you are right. Didnt consider most team will be playing 2 rucks. Im assuming dogs will play 2? If they go with 1 i worry about him being dropped is all

 

[Ah12]

I still say Laird is full price. I would get one of the other top defenders there and bank the rest. I was on Adams early but I agree with many others who just have to wonder how much Beams muddies up their midfield. I would maybe steer clear, but i wouldn't insist on it. I am still not a fan of having Macrae AND Grundy. One or the other as a captain, all good. Maybe, for your build, keep Macrae and turn Grundy into another reliable ruck. Then take that cash and bank it with the Laird leftovers. Maybe there you can wiggle yourself into another value premium. Love the Redden pick. I have been on him for quite some time, if you hadn't noticed. He came home in those last 17 games (and the Finals) BLAZING hot. Overall not bad at all and some interesting guess picks in there

People had talked me into that with laird but go look at his year last year round from round, Unbelievable. He puts all other defenders to shame when you do the same. I dont see him slowing up at all.

I think collingwood have worked out the only spot to play adams is in their midfield. I think pendlebury moves out that midfield or treloar plays more forward before adams steps a side for beams.

With macrae & grundy i like having both so im always safe with a captain option. Eg. Grundy comes up against a gawn or martin type where he may not go as big or macrae comes up against a potential tag eg. Sydney. But thats just me i do understand your point.

Thanks i love the fact he will go in owned by around 2-3% i see him causing chaos in my leagues with those high ceiling games he loves to pump out

 

[Rendaw]

Here is my current team. Iv paid up for rookies which will give me some breathing room to edit when teams are announced.

There is a bit of injury risk with some players but their performance in the JLT will determine if they stay or not.

 

[bol316]

Here is my current team. Iv paid up for rookies which will give me some breathing room to edit when teams are announced.

There is a bit of injury risk with some players but their performance in the JLT will determine if they stay or not.

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I like it if for no other reason then that you know Gawn is going to be a top 2 ruck. I am not sure why everyone is so worried about Preuss. The only reason i wouldn't start him is i think he's full price and wouldn't be my captain very often. Overall i can dig it. If you use that wiggle room, I would maybe try to wiggle 1 more premo mid in, if you can. Then i would be quite satisfied with this "idea". Personally, since you have Macrae, i wouldn't start Grundy or Gawn (i am starting Jacobs/English right now)

 

[bol316]

People had talked me into that with laird but go look at his year last year round from round, Unbelievable. He puts all other defenders to shame when you do the same. I dont see him slowing up at all.

Oh, i know he puts out big games. I just think hes full price. There are quite a few defenders I see as better value picks like Hurn, Sicily and maybe even Whitfield. I think they can all gain value. I think Laird hovers at his price

 

[Ah12]

Oh, i know he puts out big games. I just think hes full price. There are quite a few defenders I see as better value picks like Hurn, Sicily and maybe even Whitfield. I think they can all gain value. I think Laird hovers at his price

Yea fair point with the full price stuff. Do u rate a rise in value tho even if these players you mention are going to be keepers anyway. Like is there any real reason to have them gaining in value.

 

[Ah12]

Here is my current team. Iv paid up for rookies which will give me some breathing room to edit when teams are announced.

There is a bit of injury risk with some players but their performance in the JLT will determine if they stay or not.

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I really like your team. All i can say is personally id trade miles down to a rookie and bring crouch up to a kelly type midfielder. Or even hannebery could become adams/dusty and keep B. Crouch. All in all tho nice team

 

[bol316]

Yea fair point with the full price stuff. Do u rate a rise in value tho even if these players you mention are going to be keepers anyway. Like is there any real reason to have them gaining in value.

Lets say a player starts at 700,000, and you don't start with them, and eventually they rise to 750,000. Now you have to pay 50,000 more to have them (assuming they are a roller of course). If you had bought them in the first place, you saved 50,000 you can spend elsewhere. If another player starts at 750,000 and stays there, what have you gained? Lets say it happens with 6 players. Thats 300,000 extra you didn't have to pay to have them. 300,000 you can use elsewhere

 

[Ah12]

Lets say a player starts at 700,000, and you don't start with them, and eventually they rise to 750,000. Now you have to pay 50,000 more to have them (assuming they are a roller of course). If you had bought them in the first place, you saved 50,000 you can spend elsewhere. If another player starts at 750,000 and stays there, what have you gained? Lets say it happens with 6 players. Thats 300,000 extra you didn't have to pay to have them. 300,000 you can use elsewhere

I get what your saying but i wouldnt trade rory laird.

 

[JADED]

W.I.P.

 

[Ah12]

W.I.P.
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Zac clarke may not even get a game. If he does you should be right

 

[bl4ke]

Who’s English competing with, though? I see 2 specialist rucks on the Dogs list (I’m no expert, so happy to be corrected) and the other is rookie-listed Jordon Sweet. New rules could see teams playing more ruckmen than last season, so English should be a lock for the Dogs.

I get what you’re saying, but who would have predicted Macrae going from a max average of 104 (3 times in a season) to 123?

Trengove will be the dogs #1 ruckman

 

[Demon in Hell]

W.I.P.
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Good side. Pity you only have $6k left to pick your 8 bench players.

Try again and don’t cheat this time.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

I get what your saying but i wouldnt trade rory laird.

He's not saying that you'd trade Rory Laird he's saying that, given Rory is priced at about his peak, when you upgrade him he'll still be the same price, whereas someone who is slighlty discounted, you would have to buy them for more expensive than when they started if you wanted to bring them in.

Take Laird (782k priced at 108) and Witherden (639k priced at 88).

If you chose to start with Laird, you pay 782k to get him, then after 5 rounds, when Witherden is averaging around 100 and he's up to 720k, you pay 720k to bring Witherden in. At that point, you've spent $1.5 million to get both of them in.

If you chose to start with Witherden, you pay 639k to get him, then after 5 rounds, with Laird averaging roughly what he did last year, he remains at about 782k, in fact he may even drop a few k. If you bring in Laird you pay 780k for him. At that point, youve spent about $1.42 million to get your two defenders. Saving you $80,000.

That $80,00 can contribute towards another upgrade. Four weeks of that, and you have $320,000 which can turn a Ben Cavarra at Round 9 into a 600-700k premium and you're saving a trade and promoting your team a week earlier.

Picking value players is definitely important, you just need to be satisfied that they're in youre projected 6-8 top players in that position, otherwise they're an expensive mid pricer that you'll need to trade out.

 

[Andyjh]

W.I.P.
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Abit weak in the Mids

 

[Dupogi]

Lets say a player starts at 700,000, and you don't start with them, and eventually they rise to 750,000. Now you have to pay 50,000 more to have them (assuming they are a roller of course). If you had bought them in the first place, you saved 50,000 you can spend elsewhere. If another player starts at 750,000 and stays there, what have you gained? Lets say it happens with 6 players. Thats 300,000 extra you didn't have to pay to have them. 300,000 you can use elsewhere

But what price do you put on a trade and what dollar value do you put on lost points by not starting Laird? I know what you are seeing but it is alot more complicated than just a price and what you pay.

 

[Dupogi]

He's not saying that you'd trade Rory Laird he's saying that, given Rory is priced at about his peak, when you upgrade him he'll still be the same price, whereas someone who is slighlty discounted, you would have to buy them for more expensive than when they started if you wanted to bring them in.

Take Laird (782k priced at 108) and Witherden (639k priced at 88).

If you chose to start with Laird, you pay 782k to get him, then after 5 rounds, when Witherden is averaging around 100 and he's up to 720k, you pay 720k to bring Witherden in. At that point, you've spent $1.5 million to get both of them in.

If you chose to start with Witherden, you pay 639k to get him, then after 5 rounds, with Laird averaging roughly what he did last year, he remains at about 782k, in fact he may even drop a few k. If you bring in Laird you pay 780k for him. At that point, youve spent about $1.42 million to get your two defenders. Saving you $80,000.

That $80,00 can contribute towards another upgrade. Four weeks of that, and you have $320,000 which can turn a Ben Cavarra at Round 9 into a 600-700k premium and you're saving a trade and promoting your team a week earlier.

Picking value players is definitely important, you just need to be satisfied that they're in youre projected 6-8 top players in that position, otherwise they're an expensive mid pricer that you'll need to trade out.

I love the optimism of the plan, even does fantasy ever go according to "the plan". It is the old buy low sell high, although my mates have been burned and now only recommend blue chipers