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Grundy. Gawn. :padlock:

Who gives a **** who the other 100 ruck options are.

:fire::fire::fire::fire::fire::fire::fire:
It's so much of the starting budget, though.
It's a tale of ten green bottles with the cheapies, tbh. Naismith already looks iffy, Longer looks the man most likely, English more $ than you'd ideally prefer, Preuss / Gawn how does it work etc.?
Have to see how they shape up closer to rd 1.
 
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Quote from the article.
"Sam Naismith is tracking well on the road back from a ruptured ACL, Callum Sinclair is flying through the pre-season and Darcy Cameron is eyeing another monstrous campaign."
That's got to be music to the ears of stevebbb.
You forgot the fine print at he bottom...

"and Horse is the biggest campaigner of them all and stevebbb SC team is his bitch"
 

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It's so much of the starting budget, though.
It's a tale of ten green bottles with the cheapies, tbh. Naismith already looks iffy, Longer looks the man most likely, English more $ than you'd ideally prefer, Preuss / Gawn how does it work etc.?
Have to see how they shape up closer to rd 1.
Grundy. Gawn. :padlock:

Who gives a **** who the other 100 ruck options are.

:fire::fire::fire::fire::fire::fire::fire:
 

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Unless there is a CLEAR cheap alternative ruck option like Witts was, i'm sticking with Gawn/Grundy.


They are head and shoulders above any other ruckman right now.


Next highest averaging ruck is Stefan, 22pg less.
Considering the pies came within a bees of a premiership, I'd say Grundy should be able to maintain it. So if people are looking to save money in the rucks Gawn would be the one I'd skip, just because of the odd decision to draft Preuss.
 
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Considering the pies came within a bees of a premiership, I'd say Grundy should be able to maintain it. So if people are looking to save money in the rucks Gawn would be the one I'd skip, just because of the odd decision to draft Preuss.
Grundy played shit in the GF and still scored 141 :eek:

Gawn the week before only scored 79
 

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Considering the pies came within a bees of a premiership, I'd say Grundy should be able to maintain it. So if people are looking to save money in the rucks Gawn would be the one I'd skip, just because of the odd decision to draft Preuss.
Spot on.

Preuss is such a ******* moron. Will have no sympathy from me when the move to Melbourne blows up in his face and he's playing in the VFL after round 3.

Also because i wanted him at West Coast :moustache:
 

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I'd be comfortable with Grundy/Gawn if Preuss hadn't gone to Melbourne.

As someone who has been a massive fan of Martin in the past, at 32 he worries me (despite good injury history).
Kreuzer is the one that interests me, priced well under what he's worth and can go 110+ if his body is right - will be monitoring him heavily pre-season.

I like the idea of Westy but I have no faith he can back up last years effort at his age.
Goldy seems reasonable so currently:

Lock:
Grundy

In the running:
Kreuzer, Goldy, (any mid pricers that pop up)
 

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Just need 18 playing bodies R13 .....just have to plan for both Grundy & Gawn not playing
Exactly. I don't get the whole not picking 2 rucks who have the same bye thing.
I can think of a few reasons not to pick Gawn (price,Preuss) but having the same bye as Grundy is not one of them.
 

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Exactly. I don't get the whole not picking 2 rucks who have the same bye thing.
I can think of a few reasons not to pick Gawn (price,Preuss) but having the same bye as Grundy is not one of them.
Coaches didn't pick Stefan Martin last year, because of the 2 ruck fear .....ended up one of his best seasons

Can't comprehend where Gawn was first picked last year .....and suddenly there's ???? on him .......me :padlock:
 

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No Gawn or Grundy for me this year. Rucks very rarely have huge seasons back to back.
Just take a gander at some of these recent falls from grace

jacobs 102 to 85
Jacobs 108 to 86

goldstein 113 to 93
goldstein 128 to 108
naitanui 114 to 96
sandilands 112 to 64
sandilands 104 to 70
minson 114 to 93
ryder 105 to 90
ryder 100 to 85
Kruezer 109 to 79
Gawn 118 to 91


All it takes is one little niggle and these big galoots get the cotton wool treatment.

Goldstein and witts for me. I get the feeling witts is about to go Super Saiyan on the comp.
 

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No Gawn or Grundy for me this year. Rucks very rarely have huge seasons back to back.
Just take a gander at some of these recent falls from grace

jacobs 102 to 85
Jacobs 108 to 86
goldstein 113 to 93
goldstein 128 to 108
naitanui 114 to 96
sandilands 112 to 64
sandilands 104 to 70
minson 114 to 93
ryder 105 to 90
ryder 100 to 85
Kruezer 109 to 79
Gawn 118 to 91


All it takes is one little niggle and these big galoots get the cotton wool treatment.

Goldstein and witts for me. I get the feeling witts is about to go Super Saiyan on the comp.
None of those are in the same class as Gawn and Grundy though(apart from Gawn himself of course who had injury) . Sandilands also had lots of niggles and despite being a hit out beast has never been a big possession winner.
Cox was and he did back it up. Seriously can't see Grundy going backwards bar injury, he hasn't anywhere near hit his prime yet. Gawn is in his prime.
As for Witts I'd pick him if he played for a better team. He gets massive hit out numbers already, but the sub standard midfield around him means not enough HOTAs.
 
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No Gawn or Grundy for me this year. Rucks very rarely have huge seasons back to back.
Just take a gander at some of these recent falls from grace

jacobs 102 to 85
Jacobs 108 to 86
goldstein 113 to 93
goldstein 128 to 108
naitanui 114 to 96
sandilands 112 to 64
sandilands 104 to 70
minson 114 to 93
ryder 105 to 90
ryder 100 to 85
Kruezer 109 to 79
Gawn 118 to 91


All it takes is one little niggle and these big galoots get the cotton wool treatment.

Goldstein and witts for me. I get the feeling witts is about to go Super Saiyan on the comp.
Sssshhhhh campaigner

Let them all spend $1.4M on 200 points per week :moustache:
 

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No Gawn or Grundy for me this year. Rucks very rarely have huge seasons back to back.
Just take a gander at some of these recent falls from grace

jacobs 102 to 85
Jacobs 108 to 86
goldstein 113 to 93
goldstein 128 to 108
naitanui 114 to 96
sandilands 112 to 64
sandilands 104 to 70
minson 114 to 93
ryder 105 to 90
ryder 100 to 85
Kruezer 109 to 79
Gawn 118 to 91


All it takes is one little niggle and these big galoots get the cotton wool treatment.

Goldstein and witts for me. I get the feeling witts is about to go Super Saiyan on the comp.
So on this basis you won't be selecting Dangerfield ? .......I refused to get Grundy last year & he absolutely burn't me,...... by not selecting who you think will be the best scorers, simply due to their starting price, is asking for trouble

Will Gawn & Grundy drop in price over the season ? ...nothing surer, but they'll also pump out some pretty big VC / C scores .....i still can't fathom why Gawn was first picked last year, he pumps out an ave of 127, and everyone stops selecting him ? ...makes no sense

However i have scaled back my DEF as a result of having Gawn / Grundy
 

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So on this basis you won't be selecting Dangerfield
I will be selecting Dangerfield because he is a superstar midfielder who historically have been shown to be able to back up year after year. He’s also priced 10-15 points below his ceiling.

Will Gawn & Grundy drop in price over the season ? ...nothing surer, but they'll also pump out some pretty big VC / C scores .....i still can't fathom why Gawn was first picked last year, he pumps out an ave of 127, and everyone stops selecting him ? ...makes no sense
How can you be sure that they will pump out big VC scores? There isn’t a single ruckmen in supercoach history with more than 1 120+ point season. The bar that Gawn and Grundy have set for themeselves this season is unprecedented and I envisage that they will regress back to the mean. A lot of people would have been burnt by picking Gawn in 2017 and even then he was 50k cheaper than he is going to be this year.
 

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Coaches didn't pick Stefan Martin last year, because of the 2 ruck fear .....ended up one of his best seasons

Can't comprehend where Gawn was first picked last year .....and suddenly there's ???? on him .......me :padlock:
I feel like it has something to do with the fact that last year he was at a Monopoly money price, whereas now I need to mortgage the house to get him.
 
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Coaches didn't pick Stefan Martin last year, because of the 2 ruck fear .....ended up one of his best seasons

Can't comprehend where Gawn was first picked last year .....and suddenly there's ???? on him .......me :padlock:
I started Martin last year along side Gawn. Only upgraded to Grundy about round 18 as my last upgrade.

Will be starting Martin again this year with Grundy.
 

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I will be selecting Dangerfield because he is a superstar midfielder who historically have been shown to be able to back up year after year. He’s also priced 10-15 points below his ceiling.



How can you be sure that they will pump out big VC scores? There isn’t a single ruckmen in supercoach history with more than 1 120+ point season. The bar that Gawn and Grundy have set for themeselves this season is unprecedented and I envisage that they will regress back to the mean. A lot of people would have been burnt by picking Gawn in 2017 and even then he was 50k cheaper than he is going to be this year.
Gawn is 27 YO .....peak of his career ....that 91 average in 2017 was as a result of 3 x injury events

If his 2017 was so bad, why did most Coaches pick him for 2018 ? ......plus remember Melbourne has been gathering momentum & IMHO Gawn is going to break that streak of only 1 x 120 ave season

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