List Mgmt. 2019 Trade Thread

[Mowman]

Recruiting players the calibre of Coniglio isn’t realistic whilst we’re in the lower half of the ladder.

Players in our cross hairs will have played <50 games, possibly not able to squeeze into their AFL team or possibly wanting to “come home”.

#moneyball

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Langdon Dockers

 

[Premium]

Seriously, we would all be unbelievably rapt if this happens.

Not being funny here, but genuinely interested to know why you think what you have written above. You seem to know a bit about his character that the average fan wouldn’t know. Do you know him? I can’t understand why a player like him wouldn’t want to go to a top club tbh.

No I don't know him.
Just a couple things - as a junior he could played for any team - Subi one of the Fremantle sides but he played for a grass roots team in Bassendean.
He gets drafted puts his head down says nothing lets his football do the talking , as what I can gather is one of the leaders on the team and he would play for us as a challenge / if he does select us my opinion of him will only be more positive about this guy.

I'm not a ITK , but I feel we can land this fish

 

[Diehard Saint]

No I don't know him.
Just a couple things - as a junior he could played for any team - Subi one of the Fremantle sides but he played for a grass roots team in Bassendean.
He gets drafted puts his head down says nothing lets his football do the talking , as what I can gather is one of the leaders on the team and he would play for us as a challenge / if he does select us my opinion of him will only be more positive about this guy.

I'm not a ITK , but I feel we can land this fish

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Well let’s hope they win the flag and he may be happy to move on, but I still think it’s a very long shot.
Hope you’re right though.

 

[Hayes4PM]

IF we got a player like Coniglo as a free agent, we'd get nothing at all for compo if Newnes left.

And I would give zero ****s.

 

[Premium]

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Langdon Dockers

Hate to say this but calling us a low tier team is a total crock.
Injury riddled team with a hell of a lot of our top players out and we are 6 and 6.
Also the club has fielded the youngest team in the AFL this year.

All we require is a good midfield and we have the money to get them and go for a flag

Imagine if we get Carlisle , Hannebery , Roberton , Steven , Coniglio , Langdon into this current line up with the ever improving squad we have - we are going top 4.

just try not to listen to the doomdayers
whats a top team Hawthorn - we won a flag before them , and with a aging list they will be wooden spoon before seeing another finals
Geelong - well a team renowned for hang bags is not a team I would go for unless you like hand bags when playing
Bombers - you most probably get kicked out of the bar if you farted - yet they will inject anything
Melbourne - you got to be joking

 

[BrutThough]

Recruiting players the calibre of Coniglio isn’t realistic whilst we’re in the lower half of the ladder.

Players in our cross hairs will have played <50 games, possibly not able to squeeze into their AFL team or possibly wanting to “come home”.

#moneyball

Thats one of the reasons we need to win as many games as possible in the back half of the season. If we want to get anyone of quality from another club, we need to show that we are capable of playing finals and not a perennial celler dweller. It won't get us a Coniglio but it might help us snare a 20-22 aged player who is about to take that step.

 

[Sab22]

I'm happy to face any disagreements regarding my comment but I think we're one A grader or Elite midfielder away from competing for finals/flag.

When guys like Roo, Joey, Dal, BJ, Fisher started around their had quality leaders like Burke, Harvey, Loewe, GTrain, Hamil. Setting standards on track, guiding them before they finished. Then it was Roo, Hayes leading the pack, setting standards on and off the field. Still was Roo, Joey.

Now, who? Hanners to an extent, he set it off the field, apart from Geary, I'm yet to see someone else. I have seen glimpses from Billings, Gresh, Marshall, Steele but not consistently but maybe that's due to experience and age.

Add someone in the calibre of Congilio would be the ideal player to complement our list. I'm not comparing him to any of the greats I mentioned above, but he'd be that type that we need.

 

[StCicatriz]

Ground hog day. Cogs will not being coming to us or any other club. Will re sign with GWS shortly. Like Kelly at least we wont miss out to another club.

This.

 

[StCicatriz]

Plugger we will be playing finals next year , just getting players back from injury and improvement of our list I can't see we don't.
We may even play finals this year if everything lines up.

Just look at our list with the talent that is only improving.
Marshall has gone from prospect to a sure thing.
Billings playing on a wing with 2 goals , 11 tackles and 33 touches has finally come of age.
Throw in Gresham , Battle , Wilkie , McKenzie , Steele , Paton with the talent of Ross , Hannebery , Carlisle , Steven , Webster , Membery.
This is a solid base to have a go at finals if we secure our Free agent Cogs and of course they will be going after another (Langdon, Bonar , Jones etc)
requiring us to fill our other spots in the 22 with a range of options Bruce , Kent , Newnes , Lonie , Sinclair , Acres , Savage , Parker , Austin , Marsh , Long , White
With the young talented kids with another preseason under there belt Max King , Bytel , Hunter Clark , Coffield , Clavarino.

However we are missing a back up ruck , so I expect they will pick up one from somewhere.

you can stick these guys where ever you want , but this will give any team a run for there money

having a midfield of Cogniglio , Steven , Hannebery , Ross , Steele , Gresham , Billings , Marshall is just as good as any.

Geary - Wilkie - McKenzie
Savage - Battle - Webster
Billings - Ross - Hannebery
Membery - Carlisle - Langdon
Gresham - Bruce - Steven

Marshall - Steele - Cogniglio

Paton / Kent / M.King / Newnes

emg - Parker , Lonie , Marsh , Acres

in bold players who are A grade or will be

Players want certainty not the optimism of a supporter on his own club.

 

[Premium]

I'm happy to face any disagreements regarding my comment but I think we're one A grader or Elite midfielder away from competing for finals/flag.

When guys like Roo, Joey, Dal, BJ, Fisher started around their had quality leaders like Burke, Harvey, Loewe, GTrain, Hamil. Setting standards on track, guiding them before they finished. Then it was Roo, Hayes leading the pack, setting standards on and off the field. Still was Roo, Joey.

Now, who? Hanners to an extent, he set it off the field, apart from Geary, I'm yet to see someone else. I have seen glimpses from Billings, Gresh, Marshall, Steele but not consistently but maybe that's due to experience and age.

Add someone in the calibre of Congilio would be the ideal player to complement our list. I'm not comparing him to any of the greats I mentioned above, but he'd be that type that we need.

Thank god , someone who has not got a Depressive Disorder



1/ Support's St Kilda
2/ Travels to China or Townsville to watch us play
3/ Someone who goes to Tin can hill and eats Dim sims and Hot dogs
4/ Carlton supporter
5/ Demons supporter

 

[Impatient Saint]

I'm happy to face any disagreements regarding my comment but I think we're one A grader or Elite midfielder away from competing for finals/flag.

When guys like Roo, Joey, Dal, BJ, Fisher started around their had quality leaders like Burke, Harvey, Loewe, GTrain, Hamil. Setting standards on track, guiding them before they finished. Then it was Roo, Hayes leading the pack, setting standards on and off the field. Still was Roo, Joey.

Now, who? Hanners to an extent, he set it off the field, apart from Geary, I'm yet to see someone else. I have seen glimpses from Billings, Gresh, Marshall, Steele but not consistently but maybe that's due to experience and age.

Add someone in the calibre of Congilio would be the ideal player to complement our list. I'm not comparing him to any of the greats I mentioned above, but he'd be that type that we need.

I like your enthusiasm but one player isnt going to sky rocket us into flag contention. It will need significant improvement across the entire list and some current junior players to become A graders. Look at the GF teams over the past 20 years generally they had 5 or 6 All Australian players in their team. Even if we do land the likes of Coniglio it will take some time for other players to grow to those levels.

 

[Diehard Saint]

Players want certainty not the optimism of a supporter on his own club.

Well, there’s never certainty in sport, just take a look at the Dees (2019 Premiership favourites according to many), Swans and Hawks this year. What’s more important is the sales pitch ( and probably the money on offer.)

It’s basically luck or good fortune ultimately. Sport is littered with examples like Bucks leaving Brisbane, or Prestia landing up at the Tiges in a premiership year.

There are no guarantees.

 

[Sab22]

I like you enthusiasm but one player isnt going to sky rocket us into flag contention. It will need significant improvement across the entire list and some current junior players to become A graders. Look at the GF teams over the past 20 years generally they had 5 or 6 All Australian players in their team. Even if we do land the likes of Coniglio it will take some time for other players to grow to those levels.

Well, it'll definitely Fastrack them IMO. An injured Hanners according to the players and coaches made a significant impact on the playing group, who's yet to debut for us. A fit hanners and steven with coniglio with Billings, Gresham, Steele. I can't help but be enthusiastic

 

[Impatient Saint]

Well, it'll definitely Fastrack them IMO. An injured Hanners according to the players and coaches made a significant impact on the playing group, who's yet to debut for us. A fit hanners and steven with coniglio with Billings, Gresham, Steele. I can't help but be enthusiastic

Agreed but we havent landed Coniglio yet.
Steven asked for a trade last year and with his health issues there is a chance he will again at years end.
Hannerbrey was a great player but can he get back to those levels again?
Steele I thought would jump out this year but he hasnt kicked on.
That leaves Billings and Gresham so we will need some key positional AA talent to stand up possibly Marshall, King & Battle and they are a few years away from those levels.

Getting an elite midfielder will help but he hasnt got GWS into a GF even with their list, it will take years for us.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Our plan is to bump up the prices so that all the clubs spend too much on free agents.
Then finally only Stkilda will have cap space.

Then the AFL will suddenly inrease the cap by 100%

 

[Premium]

Agreed but we havent landed Coniglio yet.
Steven asked for a trade last year and with his health issues there is a chance he will again at years end.
Hannerbrey was a great player but can he get back to those levels again?
Steele I thought would jump out this year but he hasnt kicked on.
That leaves Billings and Gresham so we will need some key positional AA talent to stand up possibly Marshall, King & Battle and they are a few years away from those levels.

Getting an elite midfielder will help but he hasnt got GWS into a GF even with their list, it will take years for us.

glass half full half empty

facts

youngest team this year

more injuries you can shake a stick at - with a lot being our best

where 6 wins and 6 losses one game out of the 8

add a Coniglio , Langdon into the side with Carlisle , Hannebery , Steven - it's a lot more than one good midfielder coming into the team and if we are a chance of making the 8 now , imagine with these players in.

who said Steven asked to be traded , news to me - Geelong hounded him is what I heard

Marshall has come from no where and putting in a great effort in the ruck after about 10 games as a ruckman

Billings was huge last week , you have to be happy

Battle is 20 and already playing like a top AFL player

Wilkie solid as a rock

and where one game out of the 8 with half of our team out
Geary
Steele
Webster
Lonie
Hannebery
Carlisle
Roberton
McCartin
Steven
Austin
King

 

[tomjoad]

As much as I would freakin' love to see us get some crackin' midfield jet into the club. I just don't see us as landing one. We are not on the destination radar. If St.Kilda was a country it would be the equivalent of Belarus. Has dodgy money given to it by the likes of Russia, but is not wealthy in its own right. Government is a bit corrupt and given to proxy, has some great attributes if managed a bit better, although people do tend to go missing.

 

[Browny2Carlisle]

Can Cogs play half back flank though

 

[tomjoad]

glass half full half empty

facts

youngest team this year

more injuries you can shake a stick at - with a lot being our best

where 6 wins and 6 losses one game out of the 8

add a Coniglio , Langdon into the side with Carlisle , Hannebery , Steven - it's a lot more than one good midfielder coming into the team and if we are a chance of making the 8 now , imagine with these players in.

who said Steven asked to be traded , news to me - Geelong hounded him is what I heard

Marshall has come from no where and putting in a great effort in the ruck after about 10 games as a ruckman

Billings was huge last week , you have to be happy

Battle is 20 and already playing like a top AFL player

Wilkie solid as a rock

and where one game out of the 8 with half of our team out
Geary
Steele
Webster
Lonie
Hannebery
Carlisle
Roberton
McCartin
Steven
Austin
King

All valid points...we do indeed have some of our better players out, and guys like Gresh, Billings, and Marshall are giving us a bit of colour other than bog standard magnolia, but is our game style and plan attractive enough to land established talent from other clubs? I know that we are 6 and 6 which is quite astonishing, but other than the Melbourne game where things clicked, we have looked like a bag of balls quite a lot this season. Our last two wins, though wins, haven't exactly shown much promise from a team perspective.

 

[Premium]

This club has had a big shake up with Leathlean coming in - he obtained the best 2 coaches available in Ratten and Lade , brought in anyone who can help and has gone out of his way to get the people he thinks he needs.
Slatter , Gubby Allan etc.

He is getting the old players back to the club and even bring in any ppeople who might attract more memberships - Slatter , Warnie , Ogilve etc.
Put his neck on the line holding on to Richardson and getting Hannebery.

All I can see is a club doing there best to right the ship and it's coming together.

Just like the other day when King went down , some other clubs don't give you a up date for a couple days , but no we found out 2 hours later after the scans , just keeps the fans in the loop and gives them hope.

We have also signed all our best talent - Marshall , Gresham , Membery , King , Webster , Wilkie , McKenzie , Battle

I can now see the light at the end of the tunnel and it's bloody bright

 

[Premium]

All valid points...we do indeed have some of our better players out, and guys like Gresh, Billings, and Marshall are giving us a bit of colour other than bog standard magnolia, but is our game style and plan attractive enough to land established talent from other clubs? I know that we are 6 and 6 which is quite astonishing, but other than the Melbourne game where things clicked, we have looked like a bag of balls quite a lot this season. Our last two wins, though wins, haven't exactly shown much promise from a team perspective.

Agree Tom watching the last few games has been gut wrenching and really no excuses , but as was said on one of the threads on here we average 10 goals a game , 3 or 4 teams below us and 16 teams on a average of 12 goals or lower.

We all know we havn't beeen scoring , so imagine if we get a Carlisle , Hannebery and a Steven back , it might just give us the extra goals we need to make the 8

With all the injuries and knowing some of the guys most probably will not recover , we have put in a effort this year and getting a couple guys back just might put a spring in the step of the other guys and lift the team and the club.

Jesus I hope so

 

[AirWinmar]

Why give a first for two players that have done literally nothing? Sounds SOS-like.

To be fair, the guy you would pick in the draft hasnt either. Caldwell may have gone number 3 in this years draft..

 

[Sab22]

To be fair, the guy you would pick in the draft hasnt either. Caldwell may have gone number 3 in this years draft..

Top 5 midfielder in his class when not injured. But injury-prone, I'd give it few more years.

 

[Verdun66]

This club has had a big shake up with Leathlean coming in - he obtained the best 2 coaches available in Ratten and Lade , brought in anyone who can help and has gone out of his way to get the people he thinks he needs.
Slatter , Gubby Allan etc.

He is getting the old players back to the club and even bring in any ppeople who might attract more memberships - Slatter , Warnie , Ogilve etc.
Put his neck on the line holding on to Richardson and getting Hannebery.

All I can see is a club doing there best to right the ship and it's coming together.

Just like the other day when King went down , some other clubs don't give you a up date for a couple days , but no we found out 2 hours later after the scans , just keeps the fans in the loop and gives them hope.

We have also signed all our best talent - Marshall , Gresham , Membery , King , Webster , Wilkie , McKenzie , Battle

I can now see the light at the end of the tunnel and it's bloody bright

Top post!! Things to be positive about. You can add the work we are doing with indigenous players. Was for whatever reason an area we didn't venture into too much for a while. Would be great to build on the current great work. Strong finish to our season. Momentum into next year. Good things can happen.

 

[dizzysquizz]

Recruiting players the calibre of Coniglio isn’t realistic whilst we’re in the lower half of the ladder.

Players in our cross hairs will have played <50 games, possibly not able to squeeze into their AFL team or possibly wanting to “come home”.

#moneyball

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