List Mgmt. 2019 Trade Thread

[Mowman]

Saints' swoop? Giant, Sun in St Kilda's sights

ST KILDA is again in the hunt for Adam Tomlinson, two years after nearly snaring the versatile Giant.

And AFL.com.au understands the club is also interested in out-of-contract Gold Coast forward Jack Martin.

The Saints are among the clubs believed to be hovering around Tomlinson, who has become a valuable player for Greater Western Sydney through defence and the wing.

The Giants are keen to keep Tomlinson and are believed to have put forward an offer to retain the unrestricted free agent, but discussions are considered unlikely to progress for now.

Tomlinson, 25, met with the Saints at the end of 2017 and was close to switching clubs.

However, his strong end to that season – he was one of the Giants' best in their preliminary final loss to Richmond – saw him remain with the club, where he was contracted through to the end of 2019.

This time, he would come at no trade cost, and given his unrestricted FA status, the Giants would not be able to match a rival's deal to keep him.

The Oakleigh Chargers product has been linked to a move back to Victoria throughout his career since joining the Giants with pick No.9 at the 2011 NAB AFL Draft.
https://www.afl.com.au/stats/stats-pro#/discover/CD_I291819/Tomlinson-Adam

Martin, too, is on the Saints' radar, with contract talks for the 24-year-old likely to start in the second half of the season.

Essendon was strongly linked to Martin at the end of last season, but he remained at Gold Coast, where he is contracted until the end of this year.

The West Australian has played 86 games since he joined the Suns as the first pick in the 2012 'mini-draft'.

The Saints sit in second position on the ladder after an excellent start to the season and appear likely to be proactive in the trade and free agency space this year.
https://www.afl.com.au/stats/stats-pro#/discover/CD_I296190/Martin-Jack

AFL.com.au reported last week speedy Swan Zak Jones, who is also out of contract this year, has been linked with the Saints.

Last year they were unable to land Dylan Shiel or Jared Polec despite significant interest in the pair but did trade for Swans premiership midfielder Dan Hannebery.

Hannebery is yet to play a game for the club as he "rebuilds" his body, and is expected to be back in the second half of the season.



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[Hayes4PM]

I think he’s just about to hit his peak. Over his injuries and playing a very good forward roll. Averaging over 20 disposals, with a lot contested and his tackling has been elite. Would slot in perfectly on the half forward line and relief wing. I’d happily give our first pick this year, that’s looking closer to mid teens.

Hunnet percent. I can’t remember which game this year it was but he looked more confident in himself or maybe his role than I had ever seen.

 

[LeonardHayes87]

What are feeling re: Billings and Gresham's next contracts?

Feeling pretty confident Gresham will re sign but something tells me it will be harder to get Billings across the line. Just a feeling.

Either way, what do we offer them length and $ wise?

Joey Montagna said on radio the other day that Billings would sign a deal with us on big money. I’d back his intel.

 

[bird_man]

Spencer White.

I can definitely see the argument for McKenzie as a middling pick.

It’s all in hindsight. There is good and bad luck involved.

Both Mckenzie and Dunstan should be middling. Neither will be stars but give us depth at the very least.

 

[Mikka84]

Hunnet percent. I can’t remember which game this year it was but he looked more confident in himself or maybe his role than I had ever seen.

You get the feeling he’ll explode next year with another full pre season. Can see it turning now.. even in the tough games, he’s had consistent impact. It’s a yes from me.

 

[bird_man]

Joey Montagna said on radio the other day that Billings would sign a deal with us on big money. I’d back his intel.

Hope it's not too big of a contract. He's still got a lot to prove.

 

[Shred]

Joey Montagna said on radio the other day that Billings would sign a deal with us on big money. I’d back his intel.

Big money, hopefully that means a long term deal. Don’t like the idea of him signing to his FA year.

 

[aussierulesrules]

If we get Martin about half our team going forward will have been born in 1995!

Hope they don't all retire in the same year!

 

[bird_man]

Darcy Parish dropped again for Essendon. Can't break into that midfield of Shiel, Heppel and Merret.

I don't mind him as a player, just doesn't seem to he getting the opportunity.

His asking price would be very cheap right now.

 

[Hayes4PM]

You get the feeling he’ll explode next year with another full pre season. Can see it turning now.. even in the tough games, he’s had consistent impact. It’s a yes from me.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-02-01/motivated-martin-best-on-the-track-says-dew

Big wrap from Dew 2 months back.

 

[aussierulesrules]

Darcy Parish dropped again for Essendon. Can't break into that midfield of Shiel, Heppel and Merret.

I don't mind him as a player, just doesn't seem to he getting the opportunity.

His asking price would be very cheap right now.

I'd do him and pick 28 for Gresh and Carlisle.

 

[triggering bro]

Parish has been so underwhelming since being drafted. He’s not a massive accumulator, he’s not a contested beast & he isn’t damaging. Very vanilla. For what he would cost, pass!

 

[bird_man]

Parish has been so underwhelming since being drafted. He’s not a massive accumulator, he’s not a contested beast & he isn’t damaging. Very vanilla. For what he would cost, pass!

I'm not sure he'd cost a lot, you can't expect anymore than a second round pick for a guy that can't cement a spot in the 22.

I was impressed with his in his first year or two. Seems to have been played out of position since.

 

[triggering bro]

How’s Sam Weideman putting a 650k price tag on his head probably knowing full well Melbourne couldn’t fit him in their cap at that price. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Pies are after him after missing out on Lynch.

 

[BrutThough]

How’s Sam Weideman putting a 650k price tag on his head probably knowing full well Melbourne couldn’t fit him in their cap at that price. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Pies are after him after missing out on Lynch.

Could the Pies afford him at that price?

 

[triggering bro]

I'm not sure he'd cost a lot, you can't expect anymore than a second round pick for a guy that can't cement a spot in the 22.

I was impressed with his in his first year or two. Seems to have been played out of position since.

This is Dodoro we are talking about. He’d want a top 20 pick minimum.

If we got him he would be competing with Sinclair & Newnes, both superior players IMO.

I would much prefer Martin who is far more versatile & damaging as a player.

What about Laverde? Apparently kicked 6 in the VFL a week or two ago & still can’t get a game in the ones.

 

[triggering bro]

Could the Pies afford him at that price?

No but I’m sure they can afford 400k with an added third party deal

 

[bird_man]

This is Dodoro we are talking about. He’d want a top 20 pick minimum.

If we got him he would be competing with Sinclair & Newnes, both superior players IMO.

I would much prefer Martin who is far more versatile & damaging as a player.

What about Laverde? Apparently kicked 6 in the VFL a week or two ago & still can’t get a game in the ones.

Both those guys have a bit of age on him so it's probably no surprise they are in front of him right now. Parish was regularly getting mid 20's touches in his first year of footy. I'd he confident he'd go past those two if he was able to play the role that suits him.

He'd be a lot cheaper than Martin, I don't care if it's Dodoro, you can't expect a first round pick for him if he isn't playing senior footy.

 

[aussierulesrules]

Melbourne need to be all over the likes of Parish, Martin and Newnes.

 

[Hayes4PM]

I'm not sure he'd cost a lot, you can't expect anymore than a second round pick for a guy that can't cement a spot in the 22.

I was impressed with his in his first year or two. Seems to have been played out of position since.

Yeah but, Dodoro.

 

[triggering bro]

Both those guys have a bit of age on him so it's probably no surprise they are in front of him right now. Parish was regularly getting mid 20's touches in his first year of footy. I'd he confident he'd go past those two if he was able to play the role that suits him.

He'd be a lot cheaper than Martin, I don't care if it's Dodoro, you can't expect a first round pick for him if he isn't playing senior footy.

Where is Parish being played? He seems a natural half back / winger.

Just a bit of Jimmy Toumpas about him for mine. He doesn’t appear to have any elite traits.

 

[SaintersUnite]

There’s this one player who is becoming a FA at the end of the year, Jack Newnes I think his name is. Anyone reckon we could have a crack?


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[bird_man]

Where is Parish being played? He seems a natural half back / winger.

Just a bit of Jimmy Toumpas about him for mine. He doesn’t appear to have any elite traits.

They play him as a forward a lot.

He was a genuine midfielder in the 18's and got to play through the midfield quite a lot early.

He's actually a very good contested ball winner, he was averaging 9 in his first year of footy.

 

[aussierulesrules]

He did terrifically well in his first year when he got to play midfield all day because most of Essendon's team was suspended for the supplements saga.

 

[gringo2011]

Without rehashing old discussions.

Looking at this year so far, apart from the compromised draft years, which top 25 picks have been busts by Trout?

Obvious ones are Paddy and Dunstan for different reasons.

And before people get hyper about Dunstan, I think like Paddy he's just not suited to the modern game and will struggle IMO.

Goddard?