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List Mgmt. 2019 Trade Thread

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Pretty sure it wouldn’t work with acres then. I know it’s popular thing to say that richo turns players into robots but I reckon it’s a bit of crap. The little players we have with flair still play with flair. The problem is most of our players are meh players so they don’t have the flair to begin with.


Who plays with flair? Gresham has lost his, Billings went from a match winning small forward to a rangy running wing hybrid thing, Parker is probably the flairiest we have but after a year or two we should break him too.
 
Dimma has the balls to say he misread Brandon Ellis, always concentrating on what he doesn't do well and not on his strengths. I think it's fair to say Richo has always let some players standards be lower than others. He seems to punish Bake but guys like Newnes or Mav could play consistently below par weeks on end with no scrutiny. All coaches have favourites and Richo doesn't seem to have Blake and Whitey on his Christmas card list.
How does he punish acres? By playing him where some don’t like it even though they don’t have all the information. Whites problem has always been his own doing. It’s always someone else’s fault because we hope the players are better than they seem so we have to blame others.
 
Who plays with flair? Gresham has lost his, Billings went from a match winning small forward to a rangy running wing hybrid thing, Parker is probably the flairiest we have but after a year or two we should break him too.
Gresh lost his? I haven’t even slightly noticed that. Seems made up to prove a point. Billings still has flair and is playing in the position most on here wanted him to play. Again seems made up. Maybe look at our mids to see lack of flair in players. Ross no flair. Steele no flair. Dunstan is nearly anti flair. The 2 in there who have flair still play with flair and that’s Steven and gresh
 

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How has Gresham lost his flair?

Playing midfield he's a lot less eye catching. His showiest footy is playing close to goal and doing the impossible.
 
Gresh lost his? I haven’t even slightly noticed that. Seems made up to prove a point. Billings still has flair and is playing in the position most on here wanted him to play. Again seems made up. Maybe look at our mids to see lack of flair in players. Ross no flair. Steele no flair. Dunstan is nearly anti flair. The 2 in there who have flair still play with flair and that’s Steven and gresh


Billings hasn't got flair, skills maybe. Gresham is a good but not outstanding as a mid. Stuv has flair but he's not playing.
 
Billings hasn't got flair, skills maybe. Gresham is a good but not outstanding as a mid. Stuv has flair but he's not playing.
Is this now about ability. Thought it was about allowing people to play with flair. The more I see of gresh is flair the way he runs and try’s to take things on. You seem to think flair means kicking goals. Not sure plugger had flair. Milne did. Gresh does. Billings does. Parker does.
 
How has Gresham lost his flair?
Dunno, but this photo from a couple of years ago suggests he definitely had a lot more back then [emoji848]

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I don’t want to be rude and people say the coach knows nothing but surely if they thought he was a very good inside mid he would be playing there. And it’s not like richo is the only coach. Why isn’t lade or ratten suggesting he play there if it’s so obvious. Same with previous coaches. His stats suggest he isn’t really inside. I know you are going to say that because he doesn’t play there often but I see a guy who seems to lack agility for that position. I’m not sure all wingers have to be fast.
Happens all the time though.. players change clubs and thrive on new positions and challenges.. a lot has to do with the game plan and players around you.
 
Who are our players who have done that since rich has coached?


We have hardly had a decent list of players to release to other clubs.
 
To me Acres is best suited to the Wing. Has a big tank and can break the lines and carry the ball. I’d prefer him to have better kicking though.

Up forward he isn’t a strong enough mark, good enough at ground level or zippy enough to cause headaches.

His marking would probably be better when he is competing against a winger instead of a third all defender as well.

Maybe he is a great inside mid but I haven’t seen it? I do think though he would be a better Winger then Philips and Newnes, although I think Newnes is better he often gets credit for here.
 

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Who are our players who have done that since rich has coached?
Wasn’t being specific in only players under Richo, but in general across the league. But for us, Roberton as the sweeping defender, Bruce as a forward, on the flipside we honestly haven’t had a player good enough to be traded or picked up from Richo’s sides to even make it on another teams list, not Richo’s fault, just cats.

Current game - Jeremy Howe perfect example. Half forward who struggled at Melbourne, trades to Pies, All
Australian CHB.
 
Seen his last few weeks when he's actually played as an inside mid? Would be an instant upgrade on Sinclair, Acres, Newnes or Phillips running around in our 22 based on current output. Not blaming Acres fo his form entirely, they are using him like he's an elite utility, which he ain't.

So we trade outside runners for anooooother inside mid?

Sounds good.
 
Wasn’t being specific in only players under Richo, but in general across the league. But for us, Roberton as the sweeping defender, Bruce as a forward, on the flipside we honestly haven’t had a player good enough to be traded or picked up from Richo’s sides to even make it on another teams list, not Richo’s fault, just cats.

Current game - Jeremy Howe perfect example. Half forward who struggled at Melbourne, trades to Pies, All
Australian CHB.
Ok.
 

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Out of contract this year I'm pretty sure
Maybe so, but I dont see Pies letting him go and why would you leave a club like Collingwood and go to Stkilda
He is playing in front of 75000 today
 
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