Unofficial Preview 2020 Draft Discussion

[Del33640]

Draft central rates him an 'above average' kick.

Can't see anything in the footage of Perkins online suggests that he doesn't have a good technique that will only improve with time in the AFL system. But to be more positive, he has a heap of weight and carry on his longer kicks - it catches defenders out a couple of times in the 4 mins of NAB highlights available online. He's also capable of delivering flat and on target too – a couple where he kicks from the wing back into the middle/fat side of the ground are telling.

He doesn't have the high end footy IQ of the frontrunners in this draft, but that's not to say he won't develop it. We drafted Trent Croad, and he was a lot further back in this department when his name was called.

But the kicker is that Perkins is bloody explosive, works up the ground, and has smarts to burn when he's operating in his lane around goal. With added development his lane will get wider too. He breaks out of contests and find the goals a few times in a way that suggests he's a pure forward with some handy mid to tall midfielder's attributes as well.

We lack explosive players, particularly larger and powerful explosive players like Perkins at the Hawks.

He identified himself as a confidence player which is a little bit of a concern. But him mentioning it also suggests he's already working on how to get past it.

Would be surprised if we called his name at 4. But then it wouldn't exactly be the end of the world either. He's incredibly explosive, a good size, and looks versatile enough to play forward and midfield.

Still like DGB more, he has Rance like athleticism, and is handy with the ball in hand as well.

Looking forward to seeing what our recruiters come up with, but I also don't buy that Perkins can't kick. He looks solid already, with room to improve.

 

[theiaofseed]

Is GWS 3 picks still on the table? It is such a strange year. You hear that many talents that did not get to showcase and be picked up top 20 will not even be picked up. Some say outside of non victorians Thilthorpe,McDonald, DBG, pick 4 should be traded. It is so strange to see Perkins being called a bolter if victorians have not played all year. Let us say worst situation, Picks 10,13&26 for 4, you would think one of Bruhn/Reid (I would prefer), Henry/Chapman, Downie, O'Driscoll/Ford/Poulter. Even keep pick 4, Downie pick 24, have 3 3rd rounders, it is that kind of a year when pick 60 could turn out better than pick 24, some luck, how much work scouts put in. Having said that other states have showcased players this year.

GWS would be an ideal target no way they go to the draft with 10,13,15,20 and 26. It's a tough year do you use a high draft pick to get best chance of the cream or take a shotgun and get bolters. What keeps running in my mind is Hugh Goddard

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Hugh Goddard

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a few years back was touted as the number 1 pick in his underage year ended up going pick 19ish* a year later.

Trading pick 4 and landing Reid, Macrae and Bruhn might not be a bad option.

 

[Dewnior]

I don't know about your Misso - but the girl in the picture can surely do better

Disagree, I think she has a great plastic surgeon

 

[sven_inc]

If they bid with Pick 1 and hand centre stage to the Dogs to unfurl JUH I will laugh hard.

Not sure how it would be a pragmatic decision to bid on a player that will be an automatic match.

You could almost look at it from the other perspective. Bidding on JUH would have been a great way to shield someone like Jack Watts from all the pressure that comes with that almost useless tag of being #1. Gives whoever they pick a chance to develop without all the extra hassle. You can still market the crap out of a #2 pick as well, but in a way that suits the club/player as opposed to the massive league-wide hype on #1.

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[Sonny Hayes]

 

[threesixpio]

Is there any chance that Wright will look to target a young ruckman with one of those late picks? In two years time McEvoy, Ceglar and Brooksby all won’t be on the list.

Tillers

 

[tommyk72]

You could almost look at it from the other perspective. Bidding on JUH would have been a great way to shield someone like Jack Watts from all the pressure that comes with that almost useless tag of being #1. Gives whoever they pick a chance to develop without all the extra hassle. You can still market the crap out of a #2 pick as well, but in a way that suits the club/player as opposed to the massive league-wide hype on #1.

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I wonder if Adelaide will get pressure from board/sponsors to not bid on JUH. Seems fine for the Kid who is selected second (even adds a "something to prove element") but the board and sponsors may want the media coverage.

 

[KermitJagger]

You could almost look at it from the other perspective. Bidding on JUH would have been a great way to shield someone like Jack Watts from all the pressure that comes with that almost useless tag of being #1. Gives whoever they pick a chance to develop without all the extra hassle. You can still market the crap out of a #2 pick as well, but in a way that suits the club/player as opposed to the massive league-wide hype on #1.

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I agree - also, you shouldn't really be looking at Pick #1 being something you take centre stage for. It doesn't seem to be a springboard for success for most clubs that take them, the opposite in most cases. I think it's far better preserving Adelaide's history of being the only club that hasn't taken one.

 

[Howe Amazing]

I agree - also, you shouldn't really be looking at Pick #1 being something you take centre stage for. It doesn't seem to be a springboard for success for most clubs that take them, the opposite in most cases. I think it's far better preserving Adelaide's history of being the only club that hasn't taken one.

If Crows are goingThilthorpe then they should definitely bid on JUH as it puts less pressure on them going the local kid, plus less pressure on the kid himself. It is all about perception.

 

[TylerDurden]

 

[Sonny Hayes]

 

[TazHawk15]

I would be wrapped with this guy as I am sure most will be.

Not to mention the 40 os so on here the nano second we draft him that will go “Future Captain”

 

[Chioli]

GWS would be an ideal target no way they go to the draft with 10,13,15,20 and 26. It's a tough year do you use a high draft pick to get best chance of the cream or take a shotgun and get bolters. What keeps running in my mind is Hugh Goddard

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Hugh Goddard

Age

29

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198cm

Wt

94kg

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Def

Career

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Last 5

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9.5

2star

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3.5

1star

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6.0

4star

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2.9

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1.1

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.6

4star

K

4.6

2star

HB

9.0

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

0.8

3star

a few years back was touted as the number 1 pick in his underage year ended up going pick 19ish* a year later.

Trading pick 4 and landing Reid, Macrae and Bruhn might not be a bad option.

Surely the only way we trade pick 4 is if we rate Perkins and Hollands on the same level and we are confident that the suns are taking Phillips. And then would take bombers offering 6+8 for 4. Otherwise I think we will take Hollands at 4 and be ecstatic.

 

[ML4Hodgy]

I want them all!
Is it too late to trade Mitchell, Winguard, Gunston and Breust out for some more 1st round picks?

 

[WeedsMullet84]

Did he mention yesterday that his preference is to stay in Melbourne?

 

[Big Hotdog]

Surely the only way we trade pick 4 is if we rate Perkins and Hollands on the same level and we are confident that the suns are taking Phillips. And then would take bombers offering 6+8 for 4. Otherwise I think we will take Hollands at 4 and be ecstatic.

At which point the Bombers wouldnt do the trade i believe unless somehow McDonald was still on the board.
Which is unlikely.

I am now settled and believe we will use pick four...on who?

 

[Stratton24]

Did he mention yesterday that his preference is to stay in Melbourne?

Yes, said only natural to want to stay at home, but said happy to go anywhere.

Bailey Smith

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got a Doctor to do a medical certificate advising interstate clubs that he needed to remain in Vic for personal reasons.

 

[Chioli]

At which point the Bombers wouldnt do the trade i believe unless somehow McDonald was still on the board.
Which is unlikely.

I am now settled and believe we will use pick four...on who?

Hollands

 

[WeedsMullet84]

Yes, said only natural to want to stay at home, but said happy to go anywhere.

Bailey Smith

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Bailey Smith

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got a Doctor to do a medical certificate advising interstate clubs that he needed to remain in Vic for personal reasons.

I know a lot of people were up in arms about that, but you never know exactly what the reason is. Could be a very sick parent or family member, etc etc

 

[Stratton24]

I know a lot of people were up in arms about that, but you never know exactly what the reason is. Could be a very sick parent or family member, etc etc

Think it was just he really didn't want to move away which is kinda draft tampering but it didn't matter in the end as Gold Coast and Port didn't want him anyway with Rankine, King and Rozee available

 

[eDPS]

Out of curiosity would you guys match a bid if it came at 49 (likely ~45 after Academy selections)? I already know you guys have the three first round picks + Cody Brand as a later academy player who might take preference so you might pass?

They won’t pass on Eyre with a bid at that point, a top 30 bid for either would have them thinking

 

[Billyc]

May not have as high an upside of other players but I am very confident whoever selects this bloke is going to be very happy with their choice in 15 years time.

 

[Beandip]

F*** me...

Looks like he spent the Winter fighting White Walkers!

Absolutely underrated post!

 

[Bardo State]

Whenever I watch Thilthorpe's footage, I'm always impressed by his work in the contest. His ability to draw players before getting a handball away, his blocking, tackling and his vision in particular. He's not quick with any of it but he seems to have that ability to see the play unfolding to give himself an extra few seconds.

His height from the combine was 201cm which is 3cm on what his height was reported earlier in the year. That gives me hope that he could be able to genuinely compete as a centre square ruck once he's a bit stronger and hopefully he ends up at 202/203.

It would be a real shame if his OP holds him back. You can also see that he doesn't have much explosive movement, which would make him really scary.

McDonald by comparison actually reminds me a lot of Lewis at his best (and obviously more advanced at 18) with better vision with his field kicking. Best work is leading straight up at the ball which allows him to play behind his opponent and work back to goal.

 

[Luv_our_club]

The midfield doesn’t need another tom Mitchell, it needs A classy impactful player like Holland’s that break games open up forward as well. Phillips will be a great player but we need better upside , if Holland’s is gone by our pick id hope we would pick Archie Perkins who has a far greater ceiling than Phillips.

Phillips does have some x-factor - some break away speed and goal sense. He could be closer to Selwood/S Mitchell than T Mitchell - someone able to find space on the outside because of his 2nd gear. We don't have that type of player currently.

I worry that Hollands will be something like Hunter Clark

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Hunter Clark

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27

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186cm

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17.5

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2.9

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16.0

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9.6

4star

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6.4

4star

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3.1

3star

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2.9

4star

CL

1.9

4star

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13.2

4star

K

6.6

3star

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6.6

4star

M

2.2

3star

T

2.0

4star

CL

0.0

1star

, I wish he had a little more exposed form as an inside mid. But he has been a star consistently in juniors and has performed in big games.

Archie Perkins could arguably be ranked highest if they played this year.


I reckon that whoever the Hawks pick will turn out the best.