2020 FA, Draft and Trade HYPOTHETICAL thread...now with new DFA speculation!

[Strapping Young Lad]

A good reference point for picks.

 

[Sonny Hayes]

He might be happier when he wins another coleman and a premiership.

Cameron is not leading us to a premiership.

Will be traded anyway, no chance the Giants could cop losing him for nothing.

 

[Dazza the Viking]

Personally hope we go into draft with the picks we have.

Only way we would look at Phillips, if we get a very good deal out of it

 

[Rushed_Behind]

One of the best rebounding backmen in the league and has 5 years of great footy left in him. Durable, does the 1 percent stuff, tackles well, quick line breaker and pretty neat by foot. I don't recall him making too many clangers either. He is absolutely worth pick 8 in a weaker draft imo.

He’s 27 next year so 5 great years is pushing it. He’s a half back and nothing else.
But each to their own.

 

[Howe Amazing]

If we don’t do anything this year, will there be another club with that much money in the cap. We could also get another high pick as well.

 

[Spitting_Cobra]

Yeah, but do you reckon Irving would have got a game by now at the Hawks? I'm dubious.

100% yes. Nash played.

 

[Birdofprey]

Cameron will go to cats. If they serious about premiership contention while Danger and aging list still there, they would be fidiots to miss out on Cameron because they refused to give up 13 and 15 (which is what GWD want) and offered only 15 and 20. He will get there.

 

[ML4Hodgy]

Hawthorn won't match on Downie if we believe better players are available, simply isn't how we operate.

Or, we can trade 24 out, match with later picks, then trade 25 back in.
That’s the benefit of having the later picks, especially if were only planning on bringing 3 players in.

 

[MrPremiership]

Or, we can trade 24 out, match with later picks, then trade 25 back in.
That’s the benefit of having the later picks, especially if were only planning on bringing 3 players in.

No, AFL stopped that loophole once Sydney did it

 

[Tugofawar]

Thoughts on late trade:
Collingwood out: Phillips, pick 16, 2021 1st pick
Hawks out: Gunston, pick 23

Dependant Treloar going to Dogs and Phillips taking a 3/4 year deal at $450k per season

 

[perrdan09]

Thoughts on late trade:
Collingwood out: Phillips, pick 16, 2021 1st pick
Hawks out: Gunston, pick 23

Dependant Treloar going to Dogs and Phillips taking a 3/4 year deal at $450k per season

Still with the Gunston trades??

 

[Tugofawar]

Still with the Gunston trades??

I hope Gunston stays but we need to trade up somehow into the first round so we get to use 3rd rounders on Downie. What do we have to trade to get there and is Narkle from Geelong still an option for a 3rd rounder?

 

[Blackhawk42]

Yeah, but do you reckon Irving would have got a game by now at the Hawks? I'm dubious.

No doubt in my mind. We lack x-factor up forward. Would have played 10+ games for us this season.

 

[The hands of stone]

Cameron will go to cats. If they serious about premiership contention while Danger and aging list still there, they would be fidiots to miss out on Cameron because they refused to give up 13 and 15 (which is what GWD want) and offered only 15 and 20. He will get there.

It'll happen , they'll make two of those a top 10 pick with a sweetener to get it done .
Just needs some other trades to happen first.

 

[perrdan09]

I hope Gunston stays but we need to trade up somehow into the first round so we get to use 3rd rounders on Downie. What do we have to trade to get there and is Narkle from Geelong still an option for a 3rd rounder?

It certainly won't be Jack Gunston

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Jack Gunston

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34

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193cm

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86kg

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15.5

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10.5

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5.0

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5.7

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2.2

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1.9

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10.6

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K

8.0

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2.6

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4.3

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1.7

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1.6

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11.2

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7.0

3star

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4.2

4star

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3.2

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2.6

4star

G

0.6

3star

.

 

[Opens positions]

Hasn't worked out for us so far. If Irving hadn't done his ACL i'm sure the thread would already have been created about how we passed on him only to end up with Walker who doesn't look likely to ever play a senior game of AFL football.

Not Walker, kosi

 

[The Spirit of Cricket]

Thoughts on late trade:
Collingwood out: Phillips, pick 16, 2021 1st pick
Hawks out: Gunston, pick 23

Dependant Treloar going to Dogs and Phillips taking a 3/4 year deal at $450k per season

i know most are blindly against a gunston trade no matter what but i'm pretty sure the club would be very tempted to take this if it were offered

2x1sts for gunston is a very high price for a player his age. he's worth it no doubt but i also can't see a club paying that much. if collingwood did i believe we would strongly consider it

 

[Blackhawk42]

Not Walker, kosi

We reached with him though being a GWS academy pick and he plays the same position as Mosquito. Makes sense to compare. Kosi hasn't played a game either.

 

[rei154]

Thoughts on late trade:
Collingwood out: Phillips, pick 16, 2021 1st pick
Hawks out: Gunston, pick 23

Dependant Treloar going to Dogs and Phillips taking a 3/4 year deal at $450k per season

Not the worst trade floated. I think we come a long way out on top with this- especially as I'm expecting the Wobbles to fall a bit next year.

 

[bindas12]

I am a bit confused with the mixed messages. Either we are fully committed to a rebuild and "getting young", in which case why are we not trading Gunston out for a first rounder ? OR we actually do believe that we are a chance of contending in the next few years as indicated by Clarko's ego, and if that's the case, why are we not making a play for Treloar and even Brown from North by forcing retirement on Patton who clearly hasn't worked..

 

[burner1]

I hope Gunston stays but we need to trade up somehow into the first round so we get to use 3rd rounders on Downie. What do we have to trade to get there and is Narkle from Geelong still an option for a 3rd rounder?

Given you can trade back when a bid comes in we might be better off just holding onto pick 23 if is going to cost too much trading up.

Downie is no certainty to be bid before our pick and if he did we just trade back (prob get a little screwed in compensation). But someone we rate in eg top 15 could slide to our pick and then we’ve done really really well. If downie bid comes too early we might not even match depending on who else is on board.

 

[Delecate Des]

No doubt in my mind. We lack x-factor up forward. Would have played 10+ games for us this season.

Chad Wingard

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Chad Wingard

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32

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183cm

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80kg

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18.3

5star

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11.0

4star

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7.3

5star

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3.5

4star

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2.9

4star

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1.5

5star

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10.2

3star

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4.6

2star

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5.6

4star

M

1.6

2star

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2.0

4star

G

0.2

3star

not enough X factor for you??

 

[Tugofawar]

Given you can trade back when a bid comes in we might be better off just holding onto pick 23 if is going to cost too much trading up.

Downie is no certainty to be bid before our pick and if he did we just trade back (prob get a little screwed in compensation). But someone we rate in eg top 15 could slide to our pick and then we’ve done really really well. If downie bid comes too early we might not even match depending on who else is on board.

Great insight but that is my point. If we want Downie as a free hit and we have 3 x 3rd round picks in a weak draft (based upon the journos opinions) then why are we not trading up to get a second 1st rounder when we are in rebuild mode. We should also try and get another 1st or 2nd rd pick in next years draft. Go hard at the draft for 2 years then top up with free agents and we are back in the game. Some can argue we could have finished top 8 if not for the hubs but the reality is our lust is old and we need speed and young star power.

 

[HODGEYROAD]

Thoughts on late trade:
Collingwood out: Phillips, pick 16, 2021 1st pick
Hawks out: Gunston, pick 23

Dependant Treloar going to Dogs and Phillips taking a 3/4 year deal at $450k per season

My thoughts are as much as I love Gunston that would give us 4 1st rounders over a 2 year period which is a good starting point for a rebuild.

 

[Roby]

We are not getting rid of Gunston.
We are not getting rid of Gunston.
We are not getting rid of Gunston.
We are not getting rid of Gunston.

 

[MrPremiership]

We are not getting rid of Gunston.
We are not getting rid of Gunston.
We are not getting rid of Gunston.
We are not getting rid of Gunston.